[johnstylet]

I know pitbulls have a bad reputation.But my family owns a 3/4 pitbull and 1/4 lab female named Q-Bear.Q's mom "Baby" was full pitbull and the most gentle dog you could possibly find.She was a sweetheart and loved everyone."Baby" passed away last year but I know for a fact she would never turn on my sister,her husband,or her three young kids.
If you want my opinion I think humans are the dangerous ones.Just think for a second that maybe that dog may be taught to fight,or may be mishandled.I am a member of the ASPCA.
People misjudge pitbulls because one made a mistake or a bad choice.My mom and brother were attacked when they were kids.By Labradors.NOT BY PITBULLS!So quit judging because until you own or have the expirence of meeting a pitbull you don't know anything.

[kneexyFreedly]

preachin' to the chior my friend, preachin' to the choir...

[xkQCaS4w]

The problem is you have all these mixed breed dogs, they are usually a accidental breeding. You have no idea what traits will be carried to the off spring. When you have a high energy, high drive animal mixed with a dog that is known for other traits if the wrong traits get mixed together you have the makings of a very bad dogs on your hands. Spay/neuter your animals.

If I may ask why are you a member of ASPCA?

[Sensbachtal]

We are always running the miles for our breed. Yeah, too much misconceptions. I help out in SPCA. We occasionally have people that think any dog that acts vicious, barks, over excited or aggressive are pit bulls. The mixed mongrels here are always barking, and several of our visitors will ask us "are those pit bulls?"

[Njxatsbf]

While I'm a big advocate for spaying/neutering your pets...I do NOT regret the 3 pit bull mixes I own. They all 3 are rescued dogs so I don't know their history or even if they truly have any APBT in them. I love my dogs and they love me. They're damned good dogs.

I just wanted to post in the defense of my 3 mutts since I was getting the feeling of my types being looked down upon. They all 3 are Loyal, extremely friendly, good around other dogs and humans and kids, can be silly and are very Loveable!

The 3 who I'm referring to are the ones on the right side of my signature pic. The 2 white ones are American Bulldogs.

[xkQCaS4w]

While I'm a big advocate for spaying/neutering your pets...I do NOT regret the 3 pit bull mixes I own. They all 3 are rescued dogs so I don't know their history or even if they truly have any APBT in them. I love my dogs and they love me. They're damned good dogs.

I just wanted to post in the defense of my 3 mutts since I was getting the feeling of my types being looked down upon. They all 3 are Loyal, extremely friendly, good around other dogs and humans and kids, can be silly and are very Loveable!

The 3 who I'm referring to are the ones on the right side of my signature pic. The 2 white ones are American Bulldogs.

If this was towards me, good pets are where you find them. I am not looking down on anyone just stating an opinion. In my opinion these types of dogs have a 50/50 chance of helping/hurting the breed image.

There is a over population problem.

Take care of your pet, keep them properly contained, feed them, love them, enjoy them, and they will give you more than anyone can imagine.

[durootrium]

While I'm a big advocate for spaying/neutering your pets...I do NOT regret the 3 pit bull mixes I own. They all 3 are rescued dogs so I don't know their history or even if they truly have any APBT in them. I love my dogs and they love me. They're damned good dogs.

I just wanted to post in the defense of my 3 mutts since I was getting the feeling of my types being looked down upon. They all 3 are Loyal, extremely friendly, good around other dogs and humans and kids, can be silly and are very Loveable!

The 3 who I'm referring to are the ones on the right side of my signature pic. The 2 white ones are American Bulldogs.

Amen to that. As much as I love this forum, there are a few people(even mods...) who are very anti-mutt and it is quite irritating...

[xkQCaS4w]

Amen to that. As much as I love this forum, there are a few people(even mods...) who are very anti-mutt and it is quite irritating...

I am sorry if anyone took my post as "anti-mutt" I am far from anti mutts some of the best dogs I have ever had or seen were mutts.

This IS a "pit bull" forum. People dedicated to preserving the breed and mixed breed dogs are NOT preserving the breed in fact the opposite. I respect people who rescue dogs from shelters and rescues, but if everyone was out to help the breed there wouldn't be any in the shelter or rescue system.

I don't know how this post got to be an "anti-mutt" thread from my post, I apologize to the original poster that wasn't my intent.

[QvhhbjLy]

I don't feel, Lowlife's post was anti-mutt at all. I think he just stated a fact. Generally, when there is a "pit bull" attack in the news, it seems like more times than not, it looks like a mix bred dog. Does that mean all mix bred dogs are bad? Of course, not, I have owned several mutts in my life, heck, my dogs are most likely mutts, and I love them.

[seatlyled]

I don't feel, Lowlife's post was anti-mutt at all. I think he just stated a fact. Generally, when there is a "pit bull" attack in the news, it seems like more times than not, it looks like a mix bred dog. Does that mean all mix bred dogs are bad? Of course, not, I have owned several mutts in my life, heck, my dogs are most likely mutts, and I love them.

Agreed.

[Njxatsbf]

I wasn't accusing anybody of anything...as Lowlife was stating a fact so was I. The OP was talking of how great her mixed dog was and how Irresponsible or even evil humans can be...I reiterated the same for my mixed dogs. Where people don't feel it's right to judge All APBTs by the few bad acts of others I feel the same can be said about the mixed breed dogs.

When I made my post I had no intent with the exception to state my 3 mixed breed dogs are damned good dogs. I should have re-worded my line with "defense of my 3 mutts" I didn't mean to sound like I was accusing anybody of anything.

Jelet: with regards to your post... I have gotten the same sense as you concerning mutts.

To the OP: I'm sorry for your family's loss. She sounded like a Great Dog!

I'm sorry for the misinterpretations.

[actifadepette]

Amen to that. As much as I love this forum, there are a few people(even mods...) who are very anti-mutt and it is quite irritating...

ditto to that, Goren is a mix...Amer. Staff. and whatever they could not find out...people that say this forum is only for APBT are crazy....am I ever going to breed Goren.....NEVER I had him fixed 3 days after I brought him home at 14 weeks old...does he look like a bully breed....YES so should I be learning all I can about them to prevent the image of the "Pit bull" in the eyes of the public get hurt...YES...so do I belong on this forum....I sure as heck do

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and I am also not trying to accuse anyone...on the contrary I think EVERYONE with a dog that looks REMOTELY like a "pitbull" should be on this forum learning how to stop BSL...it will not happen but yea they should be on here and learning a thing or two

[LxtdK9i4]

I think EVERYONE with a dog that looks REMOTELY like a "pitbull" should be on this forum learning how to stop BSL...it will not happen but yea they should be on here and learning a thing or two[/quote]


I have been lurking and learning for weeks now and finally feel compelled to post. I have been fostering a pit-mix (spayed) for the past 3 months, and came here to learn. Everyone here has contributed so much to helping me know how to best care for this dog. I don't know or care about "razor" vs "rednose" APBT vs Ambully. I know I have a dog that when everyone looks at her, they see a pit bull. What I needed to know was how to raise her right, keep her safe, keep my others dogs and cats safe. And while she is pure mutt, and has scars from her previous life, she has all the characteristics that you all talk about. She is smart, energetic, needs physical and mental stimulation and gives so much love and loyalty. Every one of you provide an amazing wealth of knowlege and have done so very much to help me. I cannot thank all of you enough for all you have done for me and my foster. Keep up the good works!
Thank you

[Njxatsbf]

I have been lurking and learning for weeks now and finally feel compelled to post. I have been fostering a pit-mix (spayed) for the past 3 months, and came here to learn. Everyone here has contributed so much to helping me know how to best care for this dog. I don't know or care about "razor" vs "rednose" APBT vs Ambully. I know I have a dog that when everyone looks at her, they see a pit bull. What I needed to know was how to raise her right, keep her safe, keep my others dogs and cats safe. And while she is pure mutt, and has scars from her previous life, she has all the characteristics that you all talk about. She is smart, energetic, needs physical and mental stimulation and gives so much love and loyalty. Every one of you provide an amazing wealth of knowlege and have done so very much to help me. I cannot thank all of you enough for all you have done for me and my foster. Keep up the good works!
Thank you

Thank you for Finally posting Welcome to the Forum as well!!

[actifadepette]

I think EVERYONE with a dog that looks REMOTELY like a "pitbull" should be on this forum learning how to stop BSL...it will not happen but yea they should be on here and learning a thing or two

I have been lurking and learning for weeks now and finally feel compelled to post. I have been fostering a pit-mix (spayed) for the past 3 months, and came here to learn. Everyone here has contributed so much to helping me know how to best care for this dog. I don't know or care about "razor" vs "rednose" APBT vs Ambully. I know I have a dog that when everyone looks at her, they see a pit bull. What I needed to know was how to raise her right, keep her safe, keep my others dogs and cats safe. And while she is pure mutt, and has scars from her previous life, she has all the characteristics that you all talk about. She is smart, energetic, needs physical and mental stimulation and gives so much love and loyalty. Every one of you provide an amazing wealth of knowlege and have done so very much to help me. I cannot thank all of you enough for all you have done for me and my foster. Keep up the good works!
Thank you[/quote]


yes, thank you for finally posting, and if you find a good home for here that is not your own, make sure the owners come on by so they can be led the right path for her...oo and Welcome to the forum hehe (kinda sleepy here)

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I have been lurking and learning for weeks now and finally feel compelled to post. I have been fostering a pit-mix (spayed) for the past 3 months, and came here to learn. Everyone here has contributed so much to helping me know how to best care for this dog. I don't know or care about "razor" vs "rednose" APBT vs Ambully. I know I have a dog that when everyone looks at her, they see a pit bull. What I needed to know was how to raise her right, keep her safe, keep my others dogs and cats safe. And while she is pure mutt, and has scars from her previous life, she has all the characteristics that you all talk about. She is smart, energetic, needs physical and mental stimulation and gives so much love and loyalty. Every one of you provide an amazing wealth of knowlege and have done so very much to help me. I cannot thank all of you enough for all you have done for me and my foster. Keep up the good works!
Thank you[/quote]

there it did not qote you last time that should do it

[Njxatsbf]

Well I learned something I didn't know.

Yes, I learned that not to long ago too...I'm embarrassed to say that the ASPCA fooled me into being a supporter, once upon a time ago...It's risen my vigilance! I now support Local organizations which I should have from the beginning...

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I do understand what what your saying about "Pit Bull" mixes however, IMO, dog bites are NOT a problem compared to the number of domestic animals living amongst more than 300 million people. The problem I see is the media's over-hype for starters and also the irresponsible dog owners and also the lack of enforcement/punishment for those irresponsible dog owners. However, overall in Reality, the dog bites isn't an epidemic. I have a better chance being struck by lightning (although living in the lightning capital of the world doesn't help me none) I also have a much greater chance of winning the lottery than being bit by a dog. Also, I'm quite sure a lot of these over-hyped stories we hear about aren't telling the whole story on whether a dog was provoked or unprovoked and I'm also convinced humans lie and dogs can't speak so of course the humans will blame dogs. So, Ultimately, IMO, I do NOT see a serious problem of dog bites. The problem lies with the media and humans and dogs, in general, are simply being the scape goat. It's unfortunate that the general population and our legislatures continue to buy into this media bias and distortions as truth as many times as the media has been proven wrong. Ignorant Americans.

I Support Spaying/Neutering your Pets! I've been trying to get my bro to neuter his one dog, he's yet to do it. I tell everybody I know who has a pet to spay/neuter. I'm proud to say that I will NOT be helping in continuing this over population problem. All mine are spayed and neutered.

[xkQCaS4w]

I do understand what what your saying about "Pit Bull" mixes however, IMO, dog bites are NOT a problem compared to the number of domestic animals living amongst more than 300 million people. The problem I see is the media's over-hype for starters and also the irresponsible dog owners and also the lack of enforcement/punishment for those irresponsible dog owners. However, overall in Reality, the dog bites isn't an epidemic. I have a better chance being struck by lightning (although living in the lightning capital of the world doesn't help me none) I also have a much greater chance of winning the lottery than being bit by a dog. Also, I'm quite sure a lot of these over-hyped stories we hear about aren't telling the whole story on whether a dog was provoked or unprovoked and I'm also convinced humans lie and dogs can't speak so of course the humans will blame dogs. So, Ultimately, IMO, I do NOT see a serious problem of dog bites. The problem lies with the media and humans and dogs, in general, are simply being the scape goat. It's unfortunate that the general population and our legislatures continue to buy into this media bias and distortions as truth as many times as the media has been proven wrong. Ignorant Americans.

I Support Spaying/Neutering your Pets! I've been trying to get my bro to neuter his one dog, he's yet to do it. I tell everybody I know who has a pet to spay/neuter. I'm proud to say that I will NOT be helping in continuing this over population problem. All mine are spayed and neutered.

I completely agree with what you are saying but as long as these lobbying groups keep getting donations they force this stuff on the general public. It doesn't help when a irresponsible owner lets a dog kill someone else pet or bite someone and it ends up on the news and all the uneducated people scream and yell "baby killer", they have no purpose but to kill, blah blah blah. There are already enough laws on the books to cover all of these situations.

I sorta advocate spay/neuter myself, I don't think you have to if you are willing prevent any accidents or take care of any accidental breedings yourself.

[Njxatsbf]

There are already enough laws on the books to cover all of these situations.

Yes, we have plenty of laws on the books however it seems, IMO, that they aren't being fully enforced and a lot of the penalties aren't that severe. I believe the penalties should be a lot more harsher. By increasing and enforcing the fines and for the more serious offenses to include fines and jail time. The increased fines would help cover the costs of the increased enforcement... We need a zero tolerance policy which will put the Irresponsible dog owners on Notice. Not only for the dogs but cats as well. Stray cats are out of control. House cats that aren't fixed are allowed to roam around at all hours of the day and all they do is mate mate mate... We need harsher penalties and controls on the irresponsible pet owners.

and as a bonus I'd love to see the media muzzled

[actifadepette]

Yes, I learned that not to long ago too...I'm embarrassed to say that the ASPCA fooled me into being a supporter, once upon a time ago...It's risen my vigilance! I now support Local organizations which I should have from the beginning...

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I do understand what what your saying about "Pit Bull" mixes however, IMO, dog bites are NOT a problem compared to the number of domestic animals living amongst more than 300 million people. The problem I see is the media's over-hype for starters and also the irresponsible dog owners and also the lack of enforcement/punishment for those irresponsible dog owners. However, overall in Reality, the dog bites isn't an epidemic. I have a better chance being struck by lightning (although living in the lightning capital of the world doesn't help me none) I also have a much greater chance of winning the lottery than being bit by a dog. Also, I'm quite sure a lot of these over-hyped stories we hear about aren't telling the whole story on whether a dog was provoked or unprovoked and I'm also convinced humans lie and dogs can't speak so of course the humans will blame dogs. So, Ultimately, IMO, I do NOT see a serious problem of dog bites. The problem lies with the media and humans and dogs, in general, are simply being the scape goat. It's unfortunate that the general population and our legislatures continue to buy into this media bias and distortions as truth as many times as the media has been proven wrong. Ignorant Americans.

I Support Spaying/Neutering your Pets! I've been trying to get my bro to neuter his one dog, he's yet to do it. I tell everybody I know who has a pet to spay/neuter. I'm proud to say that I will NOT be helping in continuing this over population problem. All mine are spayed and neutered.

GREAT post, I was trying to say that part about to total population last night but never worded it right so never posted it, and yea I learn something new every day to, did not know the ASPCA was that big on spay/neuter, I believe all pets should be neutered like I said, if you are never planning on breeding then get outa the running. I also love when you get it done before there hormones kick in for males, I have found it deals with a lot of different issues that can come up if you wait. I do not donate to the ASPCA by the way, just wanted to tell ya that, if I donate it is always local...well not my pound cause they beleive a "pitbull" will turn on there owners so I take my donations over to Indiana instead...

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I sorta advocate spay/neuter myself, I don't think you have to if you are willing prevent any accidents or take care of any accidental breedings yourself.

The only thing I see about taking care of it yourself is if you have an intact male outside and a in heat bitch stray gets pregnant off of him, you might not know this occurred so could not take care of this yourself.

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ooo yea and I try to push the spay/neuter thing when I hear someone is thinking about getting a new dog...I am like you should get them fixed we have so many dogs in the pound dieing every day we do not need more puppies, and the female will not hate you for this. I have pushed the facts on the cancer and the facts on the marking on people, I tell them yea there is risk but there is risk in anything that is for someone's own good.

[xkQCaS4w]

did not know the ASPCA was that big on spay/neuter

They are for eliminating the breed, that is just as bad or worse than BSL.

The only thing I see about taking care of it yourself is if you have an intact male outside and a in heat bitch stray gets pregnant off of him, you might not know this occurred so could not take care of this yourself.

I know it doesn't happen but you have to start somewhere, but if everyone took care of there property this wouldn't happen. Personal responsibility actually means something. It isn't my job to take care of someone else mistake.

I tell them yea there is risk but there is risk in anything that is for someone's own good.

It isn't my place to make someone do something for there own good, if they can't see it that is there problem.

I hate laws that force me to do something especially if it is common sense but since some idiot can't figure it out people want to make laws to force me to do something.