[bushomeworkk]

i am a believer in mutts make the best dogs, i have four dogs, 2 are purebred...one a yorkie who was a gift from a granny w/ cancer and the other...MY DREAMDOG!! i have always wanted a pit because physicallythey are beautiful and charming to see. my aunt has one and wanted a female to mate with him but didnt want the responsibility of another pit puppy...so she gave me Ryley...we went to pick her out and i loved her instantly even though there were pups with more unique markings...but she being the smaller of the litter caught my eye and then my heart. her mother was a registered rednose, the father a brindle gator head. both were full blooded and had massive heads but the dad does not have papers. to me it doesnt matter but i will be breeding her with my aunts and would like to sell some of the pups i wont give as gifts to friends b/c these WILL BE A BEAUTIFUL PAIR! how can i go about getting her papers?? can she be DNA tested?? and use that as proof to either AKC or CKC register? dont know much about it lol. would appreciate any helpgul information!!

[xpllmr]

Please, do not breed your dogs. There are a millions reasons why you should not breed your dogs, and -0- reasons why you should. Being a "beautiful pair" is simply not a good enough reason to breed any dog.

Please read the following links:

points to consider before breeding your dog
http://www.pitbull-chat.com/showthread.php?t=1701

breeder code of ethics:
http://www.pitbull-chat.com/showthread.php?t=2235

[outsitWrord]

No sorry. The parents have to be registered with a kennel club to get papers on the dog. Any reputable registey (AKC,ADBA,AADR,UKC) will not accept a dog with unknown lineage. Noticed I said Reputable registry.

[Trientoriciom]

Please, do not breed your dogs.

I must agree... Take a look at the THOUSANDS of GORGEOUS PURE BRED pit in shelters, go sit in the 'back room' at your local kill shelter for a day or two before deciding to breed...

What have these dogs done to prove they are worth breeding? What health, temperament, and physical tests have they passed? Do they have titles in anything?

[kathy]

Before you breed your dog, I do hope you will read these and reconsider your decision.

Health Testing... Doesn't Mean Just a Yearly Vet Check - Health Nutritional Care
Free and Low-Cost Spay/Neuter Database - Health Nutritional Care
Points To Consider Before Breeding Your Dog - General Dog Discussions
Recognizing An Unethical Breeder - Health Nutritional Care

[Gilowero]

Nope, they cannot be registered. And chances are, since there are no papers or registration numbers as proof, the dogs in the pedigree are not registered anyway.

A "rednose" is nothing more than a dog with a red nose. Just like people refer to me as a "blonde", it says nothing about my pedigree or bloodline. There is no bloodline called "rednose".

And there certainly is no such thing as a "gator head".

I truly hope you stick around because we all started somewhere in quest for education about these dogs and education is truly needed here.

[Kimaamighed]

Are You A Backyard Breeder?

So, You Want To Breed Your Female?

A couple more informational links.....

[CuittisIL]

Please educate yourself, registered red nose? Gator head? And your planning to breed 2 unregistered dogs with no health history. That is 3 strikes. Breeding dogs should be something that is researched and planned to make a better dog and better the breed. Basing this on looks alone on a puppy at that is wholly irresponsible.

[texprofi]

Don't breed! There are to many pits in shelter already from people who thought breeding was a good way to make money

[gkruCRi1]

I just started a rescue and we can't even get people to temporarily take purebred pit bulls for free. 599 of every 600 pit bulls DIE on the streets or in a shelter. Here's a photo of a "rednose" that's being euthanized tomorrow:



Someone thought it was a great idea to breed his parents, but as you can see he ended up where most pit bulls do: sentenced to die.

[bZEUWO4F]

if you are not breeding to better/improve the breed, YOU SHOULDN'T BE BREEDING!!

i agree with everyone. please read those links that have been posted. please spay/neuter your dogs.

heres something you should watch.
What you don't see at the Pound

warning: very sad and true!

[SashaLionx]

i have always wanted a pit because physicallythey are beautiful and charming to see.

her mother was a registered rednose, the father a brindle gator head. both were full blooded and had massive heads but the dad does not have papers. to me it doesnt matter but i will be breeding her with my aunts and would like to sell some of the pups i wont give as gifts to friends b/c these WILL BE A BEAUTIFUL PAIR! how can i go about getting her papers?? can she be DNA tested?? and use that as proof to either AKC or CKC register? dont know much about it lol. would appreciate any helpgul information!!

A pit huh... gee where can I get me one of those holes in the ground?
So do you mean you that the American Pit Bull Terrier is your dream dog? Or do you mean the American Staffordshire Terrier, Stafforshire Bull Terrier, or the oh so contriversal American Bully?

Color and made up jargon like gator head tell me that the parents of your dog were mutts. I'm sorry, but you got totally taken by a disreputable backyard breeder. What registry was her mother registered with? Rednose is a color, not a line, and is commonly used by backyard breeders to sell poorly bred dogs to make themselves a shiny penny or thousand.

Please by everything holy get both pups spayed and neutered. You can spay your girl at 6 months of age. I hope everyone has gotten their puppy shots and worming taken care of also.

The AKC does not even recognize the APBT as a breed. They do recognize the AmStaff and SBT though. I don't think the CKC recognizes the APBT either. I'm sorry, but if you don't even know what registries recognize the APBT you really, really should not ever breed your dogs. Hell even most people who've put years of research and responsible ownership into working and showing their well bred APBT's still leave responsible breeding to the responsible breeders.

All DNA testing (and I mean the kind done by a reputable vet, not those p.o.s. breed identification b.s.) will tell you is that yes she did indeed come from that mother and that father. And that is only if you also DNA test the sire and dam. Which is also worthless because there isn't a five (preferably further back even) generation pedigree to verify the gentics of the dog.

The fact that you said you won't give the pups away as you want to make money off them tells me that your dog and your aunt's dog both need spayed and neutered ASAP. That is 10000000% the WRONG reason to ever consider breeding any dog of any breed. People who do this contribute majorly to the problems this breed(s) is currently facing.

I dearly hope you stick around and learn more about the "pit bull" breeds. Sure we come off as brusque, but everyone has to learn somewhere and everyone here cares very passionately about the breed and are working hard to better it and assist and preserve it however possible.

Do you have any idea how much a litter of pups costs to take care of? I can guaruntee that if they are properly taken care of you won't make a dime off them. Any reputable breeder will tell you that. Nevermind the costs of basic care, health testing, training, and titling of the adult dogs.

Yearly care of a dog is quite a bit, slightly more for an untrained pup also. Have you broken down what it will cost to feed your dog a good quality species appropriate puppy or all ages food; vet care like puppy vaccines worming, heartworm testing and preventative, flea and tick preventative, spay; other basic costs like collars, leads, crate, toys, and etc.; not to mention basic training to make sure the dog has good manners and can be a positive breed ambassador? Why not put your money into having a dog that will be a fabulous companion for you instead of becoming yet another backyard breeder with an overbred dog that could have any number of complications from being a puppy machine? Why not have a happy healthy pet for life instead of putting her through something that is very hard on her own body... just in the name of making yourself a buck. Hell she might even have health problems down the line from how she herself was bred... you don't know the ped of the parents and the tag lines they used to suck you in are glaring backyard breeder flags...

Stick around and do some research.

[bZEUWO4F]

A pit huh... gee where can I get me one of those holes in the ground?
So do you mean you that the American Pit Bull Terrier is your dream dog? Or do you mean the American Staffordshire Terrier, Stafforshire Bull Terrier, or the oh so contriversal American Bully?

Color and made up jargon like gator head tell me that the parents of your dog were mutts. I'm sorry, but you got totally taken by a disreputable backyard breeder. What registry was her mother registered with? Rednose is a color, not a line, and is commonly used by backyard breeders to sell poorly bred dogs to make themselves a shiny penny or thousand.

Please by everything holy get both pups spayed and neutered. You can spay your girl at 6 months of age. I hope everyone has gotten their puppy shots and worming taken care of also.

The AKC does not even recognize the APBT as a breed. They do recognize the AmStaff and SBT though. I don't think the CKC recognizes the APBT either. I'm sorry, but if you don't even know what registries recognize the APBT you really, really should not ever breed your dogs. Hell even most people who've put years of research and responsible ownership into working and showing their well bred APBT's still leave responsible breeding to the responsible breeders.

All DNA testing (and I mean the kind done by a reputable vet, not those p.o.s. breed identification b.s.) will tell you is that yes she did indeed come from that mother and that father. And that is only if you also DNA test the sire and dam. Which is also worthless because there isn't a five (preferably further back even) generation pedigree to verify the gentics of the dog.

The fact that you said you won't give the pups away as you want to make money off them tells me that your dog and your aunt's dog both need spayed and neutered ASAP. That is 10000000% the WRONG reason to ever consider breeding any dog of any breed. People who do this contribute majorly to the problems this breed(s) is currently facing.

I dearly hope you stick around and learn more about the "pit bull" breeds. Sure we come off as brusque, but everyone has to learn somewhere and everyone here cares very passionately about the breed and are working hard to better it and assist and preserve it however possible.

Do you have any idea how much a litter of pups costs to take care of? I can guaruntee that if they are properly taken care of you won't make a dime off them. Any reputable breeder will tell you that. Nevermind the costs of basic care, health testing, training, and titling of the adult dogs.

Yearly care of a dog is quite a bit, slightly more for an untrained pup also. Have you broken down what it will cost to feed your dog a good quality species appropriate puppy or all ages food; vet care like puppy vaccines worming, heartworm testing and preventative, flea and tick preventative, spay; other basic costs like collars, leads, crate, toys, and etc.; not to mention basic training to make sure the dog has good manners and can be a positive breed ambassador? Why not put your money into having a dog that will be a fabulous companion for you instead of becoming yet another backyard breeder with an overbred dog that could have any number of complications from being a puppy machine? Why not have a happy healthy pet for life instead of putting her through something that is very hard on her own body... just in the name of making yourself a buck. Hell she might even have health problems down the line from how she herself was bred... you don't know the ped of the parents and the tag lines they used to suck you in are glaring backyard breeder flags...

Stick around and do some research.