[Vipvlad]

not all ambullies are that freakishly huge, pretty much any pit looking dog too big for an amstaff gets called an ambully seems like.

[Thydaysuh]

Yes I agree when you hear "Pit Bull" it should mean American Pit Bull Terrier, but it doesnt. "Pit Bull" is actually a term used to define three different breeds, American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, and Staffordshire Bull Terrier(To my understanding anyways). When I hear the term "Pit Bull" I think of these three breeds, yes the first one that comes to mind is the APBT, but it doesnt filter out the other two.


If I am wrong someone please correct me.

For me... ''pit bull'' means American Pit Bull Terrier

"Am Staff" means American Staffordshire Terrier

"Staffy" or "staffy bull" means Staffordshire Bull Terrier.

American Bully isn't even part of my vocabulary.

I definitley differentiate between the breeds even when using nick names.

I think lumping them all together, even nick name wise isn't in the best interest of any of the breeds especially when it comes to bite statistics. Maybe if WE stop lumping them together, everyone else will.

[CaseyFronczek]

For me... ''pit bull'' means American Pit Bull Terrier

"Am Staff" means American Staffordshire Terrier

"Staffy" or "staffy bull" means Staffordshire Bull Terrier.

American Bully isn't even part of my vocabulary.

I definitley differentiate between the breeds even when using nick names.

I think lumping them all together, even nick name wise isn't in the best interest of any of the breeds especially when it comes to bite statistics. Maybe if WE stop lumping them together, everyone else will.

Very good point, I agree!

[plantBanceper]

For me... ''pit bull'' means American Pit Bull Terrier

"Am Staff" means American Staffordshire Terrier

"Staffy" or "staffy bull" means Staffordshire Bull Terrier.

American Bully isn't even part of my vocabulary.

I definitley differentiate between the breeds even when using nick names.

I think lumping them all together, even nick name wise isn't in the best interest of any of the breeds especially when it comes to bite statistics. Maybe if WE stop lumping them together, everyone else will.

yea what she said^

[SweetCaroline]

Zoe,

good words

[moopogyOvenny]

Blue eyes

is a serious fault.

[RogHammon]

For me... ''pit bull'' means American Pit Bull Terrier

"Am Staff" means American Staffordshire Terrier

"Staffy" or "staffy bull" means Staffordshire Bull Terrier.

American Bully isn't even part of my vocabulary.

I definitley differentiate between the breeds even when using nick names.

I think lumping them all together, even nick name wise isn't in the best interest of any of the breeds especially when it comes to bite statistics.

Maybe if WE stop lumping them together, everyone else will. I am not exactly sure if my question is very clear so bare with me please...
Statistically do American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, or Staffordshire Bull Terrier bite more? Or were you referring more to if people will stop bunching APBT, AM STAFF, and Staffy with what people like to call American Bully the bite statistics would look different? As far as these "American Bullys" I know what everyone is reffering to, but what are this dog actually considered for anyone who does not acknowledge the name "American Bully"? Finally Last question, why are blue eyes bad?

[stunnyravytal]

I am not so sure one breed bites more than the next, but I'm not up on bite statistics. However, "pit bull" in bite statistics seems to encompass any dog that is muscular with short hair, so, there appears to be a lot of "pit bull" bites and attacks because like 20+ breeds, not to mention mix bred dogs are thrown into the category.

[stoneeZef]

Hi All,

I am looking at getting another amstaff, but I think I may be confused with a American Pit Bull Terrier.

Can someone please outline the main differences (with photo's if possible) between the AMSTAFF, AMPBT etc.

I am looking for a blue,with blue eyes.

I know what a Staffy is, so no need to explain them. (short stocky)

But the American Staffy and American Pit Bull Terrier seem to be fairly similar??

Thanks

[stoneeZef]

By Staffy I mean staff bull terrier - In australia we just call them staffy's.

And it looks like the american bully looks the same also??

Im very confused.

[WournGona]

Rely they started out as the same breed, But AKC stoped allowing new dogs to be reg. years ago except if both parents were already reg. So UkC formed to allow American Pitbull Terriers to have another reg. besides ADBA. You can still get AKC AMSTAFFS today But realy if you trace them back to the begining they were American PItbulls to start off.

[WournGona]

Until the early 19th century, the Bulldog used for bullbaiting in England was more active and longer-legged than the breed as we know it today. It is thought that the cross of this older Bulldog and a game terrier breed created the Staffordshire Terrier. Originally called the Bull-and-Terrier Dog, Half and Half or Pit Dog, it became known as the Staffordshire Bull Terrier in England. When accepted for AKC registration in 1936, the name changed to American Staffordshire Terrier to reflect the heavier American type and to distinguish them as separate breeds

[Ygd2qr8k]

Are American Pit Bull Terriers ("Pit Bulls") even legal in Australia?

"American Bullies" are simply a very bad, overdone American Pit Bull Terrier or American Staffordshire Terrier -- very much a fad thing here and not to be taken seriously in my opinion. There is a lot of controversy over them and I would steer clear .....the name "American Bully" is by no means "official".

If you want an Am Staf with blue eyes, you will have to look quite a while. You will have to get on several contact lists of Am Staf breeders and have them call you if they ever get one, but they do not breed for blue eyes at all as it is a serious fault in Am Stafs. You are more likely to find an American Pit Bull Terrier with blue eyes, but even then it won't be easy. And forget about APBTs if they are illegal where you live.

You will be better off with an Am Staf or Staffy Bull in Australia. There are many good breeders there (and many bad ones!). Always, always get your Am Staf papers when you take your puppy or just walk away.

Carla

Carla

[stoneeZef]

Ok Im still confused.

Pit Bulls/bulleys in australia are the very long nosed, short breed of dog.

Can someone please post three photo's, one of each breed?????

[plantBanceper]

ambully
am staff
american staffordshire bull terrier
american pitbull terrier

[stoneeZef]

oK:

AMBULLY - STAFFY IN AUST
AMSTAFF - Slightly taller and leaner
AMSBT - Same
AMPBT - Taller still and leaner again.

Is that kind of correct??

What are the main diff between AMSTAFF & AMSBT??

Also I am pretty sure the only one not allowed in AUS is not long nosed bully - not in any of those photo's.

But I am going to check.

[stoneeZef]

“restricted breed dog” means a dog of any of the following
breeds —

(a) dogo Argentino;
(b) fila Brasileiro;
( c) Japanese tosa;
(d) American pit bull terrier;
(e) pit bull terrier; or
(-THE PRESA CANARIO WAS ADDED NOV 16 2005. Yet to be updated on
State Gov Site.
( See Circular No 29-2005 for more details))

im guessing that Pit bull terrier is the long nosed, and american pit bull terrier is the one name in the above photo.

But they are not banned, people in AUST can still own them, but they must follow the guidelines set out. It didnt say anything about breeding.

[stoneeZef]

What are the main diff between AMSTAFF & AMSBT??

[BoarmomorurrY]

there is no such breed as pit bull terrier. the only breed with "pit bull" in it is American Pit Bull Terrier. The dogs appearance and size can also very quite a bit. Alot of the UKC APBTs resemble American Staffordshire Terriers and in the UKCs eyes they are the same breed. Alot of the APBTs registered with the UKC are dual registered as Am Staff Terriers with the AKC, even the some of the ones who arent have alot of Am Staff blood in them. With the ADBA you see alot more of the trimmer more ripped looking APBTs. Go into the photo gallery here and look at the ADBR registered APBTs. American Bullies and Staffordshire Bull Terriers are much much different. Nobody really knows whats in alot of the American Bullies out there. Its not a breed recognized by any major Kennel clubs. Staffy Bulls are much smaller dogs who weigh under 40 lbs while Bullies are boasted for being "Massive Pit Bulls with 27 inch heads and weigh 120lbs." Alot of people advertise Bullies as APBT. Check out the major kennel club sites below. You are going to find many different opinions on what the American Pit Bull Terrier should and shouldnt look like. You are going to read and hear alot of different views. The best advice I can give you is to read up on them. Look at the existing threads here, read the Sticky's, I guarantee you will find out everything you want to know just by reading threads and stickys and looking at pics.
http://www.adba.cc/

[stunnyravytal]

Click on each below to get the standard.

Amstaff: Standard AKC

Staffie: Standard AKC

There is no such thing as an American Staffordshire Bull Terrier. It is just a Staffordshire Bull Terrier.

Amstaff:


Staffie: