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Old 04-27-2009, 12:31 AM   #1
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Dante is ADBA. I saw this dog I'm very interested in but she is CKC registered. Can I register the dog with ADBA.
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Old 04-27-2009, 01:01 AM   #2
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If it's Continental Kennel Club, no.
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Old 04-27-2009, 01:05 AM   #3
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CKC is a bit of a joke registry.

I went to a flea market yesterday and was offered a CKC registered Beagle/poodle mix.
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Old 04-28-2009, 11:43 AM   #4
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CKC is a bit of a joke registry.

I went to a flea market yesterday and was offered a CKC registered Beagle/poodle mix.
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Old 04-29-2009, 05:02 AM   #5
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Canadian Kennel Club (CKC) then yes.
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Old 04-29-2009, 05:13 AM   #6
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Actually, I have known dogs who were CKC that got dualed with ADBA. Last I heard, you have to have a completed ADBA single registration application (requires 4 generation pedigree as well as breeder & owner signatures), a copy of a certified CKC papers & pedigree & all the dogs in the CKC ped. have to go back to ADBA reg. dogs. It used to not even be that strict. Used to all you had to do was send in a single reg. app w/ a copy of CKC paperwork (no ped) & ADBA would dual them. And before that, all you needed was the completed app & NO copies of anything. And people say CKC is the joke. They're ALL jokes if you ask me.
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Old 04-29-2009, 05:32 AM   #7
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Yes, in some ways, they are all jokes, because it's up to the Breeder to be honest and responsible, but come on at least the ADBA/UKC/AADR/AKC aren't registering designer breeds. People sell CKC Puggles, Labradoodles, etc.

Each registry will have it's hung papers, and yes, sometimes you'll have a Chow registered as an AKC St. Bernard. No registry is perfect, and every registry is somewhat money hungry or corrupt, but the CKC seems to take the cake.

I do find it a bit disturbing that all it takes is a four generation pedigree from the CKC to register with the ADBA. That does make me think less of them. Unless it is a foundation registration, where it shows that yes, you have these four generations, but the rest is quite possibly anything, and it's honest not just paper hanging.
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Old 04-29-2009, 03:48 PM   #8
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ADBA isn't registering designer breeds? Need I say "Whopper?" UKC isn't registering designer breeds? Need I say "Razor's Edge?" I think the only one you mentioned who DOESN'T would be AADR! Fact is, ADBA & UKC BOTH register "designer" breeds too. The only difference is CKC makes you register your mutts as crossbreeds & doesn't want you to pass them off as pure!

Again I say ...
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Old 04-29-2009, 06:01 PM   #9
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I see your point and I do find that to be sickening as well. Though I don't really consider them "designer breed" just paper hung dogs, which like Boogieman said they all have it, and like I said in my other post that all of them have the money hungry bug, which is disturbing but happens.

I just feel you have a bigger chance of not being told the truth by someone who only registered their dogs with the CKC as opposed to the others, but like Boogie said, you should rely more on the breeder and their honest themselves, then the papers/registry. Just seem that there would be more honest breeders with the ADBA/AADR/UKC/AKC than the CKC, at least from what I have seen. I guess we will have to agree to disagree, because I know I won't change your mind, and you won't change mine.

To the OP, I'd personally avoid the CKC, but do your research like Boogie said, and don't just trust the breeder because their dogs are in one particular registry. Find out how trustworthy they are as a person/breeder. A person who health checks, DNA profiles, and shows/weight pulls their dogs are usually a good candidate, just take your time and do the research.
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Old 04-30-2009, 04:55 PM   #10
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WOW

Continental Kennel Club (CKC) and Canadian Kennel Club (CKC) are 2 differant registeries

I thought all of you would know that
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Old 05-01-2009, 02:15 AM   #11
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There are actually a LOT of people who deal with that "half-assed" organization Boogie. The ADBA club in my state works hand-in-hand with them & a lot of ADBA people here go to their shows & pulls!

The fact is, CKC papers are labled. If a dog is a purebred it is actually labled "PURE BRED" on the papers. If you get a Puggle, Labradoodle, Schnoodle or any other kind of mutt, the papers will plainly say "MIXED BREED" on them & list the mix.

Come on man, do your research before opening that yap hole. Gawd. I hate it when folks talk about something they obviously know NOTHING about.

Yet again I have to say ...
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Old 05-01-2009, 02:21 AM   #12
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EDIT: Forgot to add - you can register a ferret - or even a skunk - with ANY of the above mentioned kennel clubs. They ALL work on the honor system. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. So don't think ADBA/UKC papers automatically assure quality & purity of bloodline & CKC papers don't. You can get a paper hung dog anywhere. Paper hanging is as easy as pie & several of the best ADBA breeders have done it. Honesty & quality come from the breeder, not the papers they give you.
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Old 05-01-2009, 02:39 AM   #13
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There are actually a LOT of people who deal with that "half-assed" organization Boogie. The ADBA club in my state works hand-in-hand with them & a lot of ADBA people here go to their shows & pulls!

The fact is, CKC papers are labled. If a dog is a purebred it is actually labled "PURE BRED" on the papers. If you get a Puggle, Labradoodle, Schnoodle or any other kind of mutt, the papers will plainly say "MIXED BREED" on them & list the mix.

Come on man, do your research before opening that yap hole. Gawd. I hate it when folks talk about something they obviously know NOTHING about.

Yet again I have to say ...
Just so you don't get me wrong..... Canadian Kennel Club (is BC's American Kennel Club), they register AmStaff's not APBT's.
So an ADBA Club not ADBA it's self deal with them????

Continental Kennel Club is like the AAPBA (All American Permier Breeds Administration, better known to us in the PNW as the All American Pit Bull Association). The ADBA registery will NOT take AAPBA paper work. The AAPBA holds shows & weight pulls all the time up here in Washington state where their at. I know a lot of people that will not show or weight pull with them or let any of their off spring pups/dogs either (it's in their contracts).
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Old 05-01-2009, 02:45 AM   #14
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We know there are two different registries, apbtkidz.

ABK isn't standing up for the Canadian Kennel Club. She is standing up for the Continental Kennel Club.
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Old 05-01-2009, 03:12 AM   #15
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EDIT: Forgot to add - you can register a ferret - or even a skunk - with ANY of the above mentioned kennel clubs. They ALL work on the honor system. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. So don't think ADBA/UKC papers automatically assure quality & purity of bloodline & CKC papers don't. You can get a paper hung dog anywhere. Paper hanging is as easy as pie & several of the best ADBA breeders have done it. Honesty & quality come from the breeder, not the papers they give you.
Thats why I DNA my dogs before breeding them. Hmmm Now days that would be one of the 1st things I would be asking, are they DNA'd or why aren't they DNA'd. Why not DNA your breeding stock, AKC, UKC & ADBA offer DNAing for about the same price. I myself think your pup's/dog's paperwork/pedigree is ONLY as good as the breeder's honesty. And as for quality that is ONLY as good as the breeder and parents of pups.
You breed shit dogs your going to get shit dogs. You breed good dogs you will get good and bad (shit) ones, too.
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Old 05-01-2009, 03:13 AM   #16
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We know there are two different registries, apbtkidz.

ABK isn't standing up for the Canadian Kennel Club. She is standing up for the Continental Kennel Club.
Thank you
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