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my nieghbor used to have a american pit. she gets rid of dogs like crazy. i've lived here 3 years and she has had 5 dogs. she's talking to me about buying a blue nosed apbt. says they are selling for $2500-3500 each!! have i missed something here? i've heard of blue apdt's and was always told it was a it was a genetic defualt. i'm not for sure.
i want to know about blue nosed apbt's. she braught a picture of the pup she wants. it's white and brindle(looks black in the pictures). coming out of the north someplace. i have no interest in running a puppy mill. i have a great female that is just 5-6 monthes old. i don't want to breed her till she is at least 2 if i deside to breed her. i'll more than likely end up with the dog if my nieghbors buy it. they sell them like crazy after the new weres off them. what a shame people are like that. |
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my nieghbor used to have a american pit. she gets rid of dogs like crazy. i've lived here 3 years and she has had 5 dogs. she's talking to me about buying a blue nosed apbt. says they are selling for $2500-3500 each!! have i missed something here? i've heard of blue apdt's and was always told it was a it was a genetic defualt. i'm not for sure. |
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Blue nose simply means the nose leather and pigment is blue or grey, rather than black. Its not a genetic fault per se, but it is a dilution gene, and people need to know what they're doing if they're going to be breeding it. It sounds like your neighbor is going to get a dog from a breeder that's just bilking the public for an insane amount of money. Could be a perfectly nice dog. Worth $3000? No.
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Blue nose simply means the nose leather and pigment is blue or grey, rather than black. Its not a genetic fault per se, but it is a dilution gene, and people need to know what they're doing if they're going to be breeding it. It sounds like your neighbor is going to get a dog from a breeder that's just bilking the public for an insane amount of money. Could be a perfectly nice dog. Worth $3000? No. Also something to consider - a reputable breeeder would not sell to this neighbor of yours. Consider anyone that would sell a dog to your neighbors to be a byb, because that is what they are. |
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The big problem with breeders who "specialize" in Bluenose Pits for the color is that they limit the scope of dogs they use for breeding. A healthy bluenose color dog is more likely to come from dogs that do not show the phenotype (outwardly visible characteristics) themselves. They could be two black dogs or a fawn and a black. When a "bluenose" throws from a litter with parents like this it is a bit more rare...since the recessive "d" gene must be carried by both the parents and it only going to happen every once in a while. On the other hand, when they put two blues together over and over with regard to coloring only, you can end up with "bluenose" dogs with inherent weaknesses. Sure, they will throw plenty of blue pups but that recessive "dd" combination in a small breeding pool can cause other problems. For one thing, the breeders are not paying attention to any other gene combinations that can cause health problems...also the "dd" combo in concert with other factors can cause eye, ear, skin, nervous system, ect. problems.
Basically good breeding does not put color first, second or third in importance... |
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Agree with this. some people just have no attachment to thier dogs at all. i love mine. i don't know how people can just up and get rid of one for no reason at all. |
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what is bad is she is getting it from out of state. now that you mentioned the fact that people breeding dogs just for color reminds me of something she said today. she said they breed blue nosed apbt's. they are breeding for color only from the sounds of it, instead of breeding for the right reasons. these people have no ideal how many dogs she has been through. she has a great dane right now that they are going to sell to get this dog. they've had 3 dane's, a poodle, some other mut, and a wiener dog she picked up out of the middle of the road!! so her total amount of dogs is 6 counting the one they want to sell. |
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they e-mailed me a copy of the papers and pictures of the dam and sire this morning. the sire is freakishly huge. when i looked at the papers his dam and sire are razers edge blood lines. i remember hearing how they were cross breeding to get the size and color they wanted. i also remember reading were people were calling for ukc to pull the papers on them. i called them this morning and warned them that the sire was not a true apbt. they shouldn't be waiste tall and 105 pounds!!! the sire is just a mutt. a bully type not a apbt. i told them i would not be breeding my dog to a dog like that when the time comes. i also remember them telling me the dog's owners were looking to get a new blood line to introduce to thiers. i think they are running a byb type set up. but none the less i bet they buy it!!! by the way, what does byb stand for? biuld your breed or what?
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Wouldn't even have to paint the nose. There are plenty of "blue nose pits" in the shelter. Meanwhile people are buying blue nose pits for $1,000 + from bybs only to grow bored of them and 'give them away'? It's disgusting. |
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they e-mailed me a copy of the papers and pictures of the dam and sire this morning. the sire is freakishly huge. when i looked at the papers his dam and sire are razers edge blood lines. i remember hearing how they were cross breeding to get the size and color they wanted. i also remember reading were people were calling for ukc to pull the papers on them. i called them this morning and warned them that the sire was not a true apbt. they shouldn't be waiste tall and 105 pounds!!! the sire is just a mutt. a bully type not a apbt. i told them i would not be breeding my dog to a dog like that when the time comes. i also remember them telling me the dog's owners were looking to get a new blood line to introduce to thiers. i think they are running a byb type set up. but none the less i bet they buy it!!! by the way, what does byb stand for? biuld your breed or what? Sorry, tried to post the whole thing and it looked good on preview and then went to heck upon posting. Click the link below to read about reputable breeder vs backyard breeder. http://www.jlhweb.net/Boxermap/reputablebreeder.html |
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I got my "blue-nose" off craigslist for $75 bucks, she's blue brindle as well, sounds like the same color dog she is buying. I had a buddy ask if I'd ever seen this rare color his friend was going to buy "a blue nose brindle". I looked at him like he was nuts and told him he was looking at one. Funny stuff that people think nose or coat color matter. Somebody up here was selling a charcoal black "blue" puppy, they even had it listed just like that.
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hey gonzo
i have been keeping pit bulls since a teenager im in my forties now and i never heard of a blue nose pitbull..i think your taking the piss..how ever if your not here's what to do..tell your neighbour you can get a blue nose for 15oo dollars and that she will save money going through you..then you buy a nice black pit for a couple of hundred and tell her its a blue nose...she is pulling your leg or trying to catch you for your cash...anton |
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