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Old 12-14-2008, 04:25 AM   #1
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If you were an APBT breeder, what would you breed for? What would you change in the breed? Would you want to be highly publicized or fairly private? Who would you sell your puppies to - anybody or only people you know well? How often and what would you compete in? Where would you keep your dogs and how often would you exercise them? Would you chain, tie out, or kennel your dogs? What would be your maximum number of dogs? What age would you sell the pups at? What would be YOUR vision of a perfect breeder? What would your yard and kennel be like if YOU were an APBT breeder?
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Old 12-14-2008, 04:50 AM   #2
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I'd breed for the overall sound and solid athlete capable of competing in any/all modern-day sports and being a pretty nice pet when they come home. I'd breed a dog capable of winning in both UKC and ADBA, and with the brain necessary to do high-level obedience, agility, and so on. I can't say I'd change much, but one thing I'd add is breeding for a better natural ear to reduce the need to crop.

Nobody would get my puppies except those who took the time to come and meet me, and who kept contact. I would want a tight-nit family, rather than a big operation. I'd want to be able to keep track of what I produce, and hear back from the puppy owners on how they are doing. I would continue to compete as I do now, several times a year. (More if possible.) My dogs would be kept in kennel runs or secure exercise yards, depending on their individual needs. (I'm not above tethering, it's just not my first choice.) Crated inside at night. Maximum number of dogs wouldn't be too many more than I have now (which is 3). Small and focused on quality. Breeding only every few years.
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Old 12-14-2008, 05:03 AM   #3
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Good post Bahamutt99!!

I don't, nor do I plan to breed, but I think a "quality" breeder would not publicize their pups or sell to "just anyone". They would keep track of where their pups go, and would not mass produce litters.... otherwise, they become just another BYB.
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Old 12-14-2008, 05:04 AM   #4
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If you were an APBT breeder, what would you breed for? What would you change in the breed? Would you want to be highly publicized or fairly private? Who would you sell your puppies to - anybody or only people you know well? How often and what would you compete in? Where would you keep your dogs and how often would you exercise them? Would you chain, tie out, or kennel your dogs? What would be your maximum number of dogs? What age would you sell the pups at? What would be YOUR vision of a perfect breeder? What would your yard and kennel be like if YOU were an APBT breeder? Wow do you work for HSUS just kidding
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Old 12-14-2008, 05:45 AM   #5
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If you were an APBT breeder, what would you breed for? Money(i aint going to lie l0l), Good Temperment, Good Body/muscles? iuno much about breeding lol ~ and good health test scores What would you change in the breed? Nothing, i love everything about the apbt breed--characteristics.Would you want to be highly publicized or fairly private? Publicized, but i wont let just anyone get one of my pups Who would you sell your puppies to - anybody or only people you know well? People that i get to know.. i ask questions.. i do once a year check up the dogs to see how they are doing. How often and what would you compete in? Weight pull Where would you keep your dogs and how often would you exercise them?In my house and exericse it daily. 10-15 min of flirt pole, 5 min of spring pole, and hour walk/jogg. And random play in the house.. Would you chain, tie out, or kennel your dogs?no What would be your maximum number of dogs? 2 dogs-- male and female, and the pups that it may have. What age would you sell the pups at? 8 weeks What would be YOUR vision of a perfect breeder? A person with good pups with outstanding temperments , great body/form / and not any health problems i guess.. What would your yard and kennel be like if YOU were an APBT breeder? Fenced with doggy exercise stuff and toys
i never plan to breed. i dont got that time.. but if i would.. those are my reasons. so yea......
check the bolded text~~ oh and i would proboboably only breed 2 times -- -2 litters
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Old 12-14-2008, 07:34 AM   #6
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CelticKarma, I was just wondering what everybody's thoughts and opinions were on it. Sorry if I sounded..errmm, how do I say it?
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Old 12-14-2008, 08:12 AM   #7
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Same concept as Baha here, except I would be very high profile.

However, not for the purposes of selling puppies, but to showcase the APBT.

An assumption for this venture would be that funding would be plentiful, which would allow me to retain the services of PR firms to orchestrate media campaigns/appearances that tell the truth about the APBT, its history and its outstanding qualities.

One can dream, right?
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Old 12-14-2008, 09:24 AM   #8
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With all due respect.... I hope none of you breed any APBT!
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Old 12-14-2008, 09:43 AM   #9
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, except I would be very high profile.
... what is that supposed to mean? Just curious. I guess I am missing the meaning of the lingo.
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Old 12-14-2008, 09:54 AM   #10
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... what is that supposed to mean? Just curious. I guess I am missing the meaning of the lingo.
Sorry, I thought that the rest of the post would have made that clear:

If you have the funding, you can buy the air time, press time, print ads, etc. to spin the APBT back to its original position in our society of a respected canine - and not a feared outlaw.

What I was hoping to communicate is that a massive educational media campaign would make a difference.
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Old 12-14-2008, 10:14 AM   #11
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That is a good thought....trying to restore the apbt name is a good start.
Becoming a breeder isnt easy, it takes years and years of learning & falling on your backside and even then nothing will ever tell you ...you are doing it the right way.
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Old 12-14-2008, 11:30 AM   #12
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I like this thread!

If I was going to be a breeder...


If you were an APBT breeder, what would you breed for?
The overall dog. I want a dog that is mentally and physically sound, capable of ANY task set to it, including being an awesome family dog.

What would you change in the breed?
I don't think there is much that needs to be changed.. this isn't a breed known for health/temperament problems.

Would you want to be highly publicized or fairly private?
In the middle. I would want people to recognize my dogs, but not be clamoring over each other trying to get a puppy.

Who would you sell your puppies to - anybody or only people you know well?
People who proved that they were dedicated. People who came to competitions and got to know me and my dogs, and spent time with me and the dogs. I would want my puppies to go to people who would have the same goals in mind for the breed and would work with me and other breeders to preserve the breed.


How often and what would you compete in?
I would compete as often as possible, without overworking the dogs, in everything... agility, weightpull, flyball, Schutzhund, conformation, dock diving, and probably more that I just can't think of right now.

Where would you keep your dogs and how often would you exercise them?
This is where my dream kennel comes into play! It would be an extensive of my house, so that the indoors part of it would be heated/cooled. The outside parts of the runs would have their own springpoles and would be half gravel and half grass. Aside from competing, they would be exercised daily on treadmills and hand walks/games.

What would be your maximum number of dogs?
I would say 8-10. I am used to having that many, and it's a fun number of dogs to have.

What age would you sell the pups at?
Pups would leave me at 10 weeks.

What would be YOUR vision of a perfect breeder?
Someone who proves their dogs are the best of the best before breeding and who truly cares for and KNOWS about the breed

What would your yard and kennel be like if YOU were an APBT breeder?
It would be awesome LOL
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Old 12-15-2008, 06:42 AM   #13
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I like this thread, too!

And, I think it's a hypothetical question. Meaning, the OP is probably sure most of us wouldn't breed. (except the breeders) But, I think the OP is curious as to how we would breed if we did.

Anyway, I would never breed APBT's, honestly. I just couldn't do it. (I have had fleeting thoughts about boxers or chihuahuas, however) But, if I ever did... well, this is how'd I'd go about doing it:

If you were an APBT breeder, what would you breed for? What would you change in the breed? If I were an American pit bull terrier breeder, I would breed for a smaller dog. I don't mean smaller as in 15 lbs, of course. But, I mean smaller as in the original APBT. I'd breed dogs to be about 35 lbs, 50 tops. And, honestly, there isn't a thing about the breed I would change. It's perfect the way it is.
Would you want to be highly publicized or fairly private? Fairly private. But, not so private that no one knows who I am.
Who would you sell your puppies to - anybody or only people you know well? Well, neither. I'd say anybody... however, I wouldn't sell to just anybody. I would sell to people that I approved of. I'd interview them, meet them a few times, find out how many dogs they have and on and on and on. I'd be very picky about where my dogs were going.
How often and what would you compete in? Confirmation and weight pulling. Conformation to find out if the dog fits the breed standard; weight pulling for fun and to find out if the dog fits the characteristic (physical strength, endurance, the works) standard. And, as often as possible.
Where would you keep your dogs and how often would you exercise them? Would you chain, tie out, or kennel your dogs? My dogs would most likely be indoor/outdoor dogs. They would spend much of their days inside, but would also spend some time outside. I'd live out in the country so no one could accuse me of dogfighting. (ugg... I hate that) And I would have a dog run built for small amounts of time spent outdoors and they'd be chained for large amount of time outdoors. But, honestly, most of their days and nights would be spent on the couch. I would exercise them all the time. Exercise is an important part of keeping the dog fit. ;]
What would be your maximum number of dogs? 6. Because 6 is the limit for most states and because 6 is as much as I can handle. HOWEVER, I've thought about going to 10 if I feel I can fininacially.
What age would you sell the pups at? I would start finding homes for them at 4-6 weeks and I would sell them between 8-10 weeks. I probably wouldn't ship as I wouldn't feel safe doing so.
What would be YOUR vision of a perfect breeder? I, honestly, don't have a vision of a perfect breeder. To me, perfection is almost impossible to reach. ;]
What would your yard and kennel be like if YOU were an APBT breeder? A bit messy but never stinky, a bit loud from time to time and always busy.
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Old 12-15-2008, 08:31 AM   #14
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I just asked because I feel that Lindsay is already as high profile as she can get within her means. And I would expect her to increase it as her means would improve... so I was confused how somebody was going to be even "higher profile", especially if they weren't doing it with the means available to them at the moment. Not to be a diss.. just an observation.
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Old 12-15-2008, 11:02 AM   #15
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With all due respect.... I hope none of you breed any APBT!
With all due respect, wish in one hand, you-know-what in the other.
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Old 12-15-2008, 08:09 PM   #16
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If you were an APBT breeder, what would you breed for?
Athleticism. Conformation. Temperament.

What would you change in the breed?
Nothing.

Would you want to be highly publicized or fairly private?
Private.

Who would you sell your puppies to - anybody or only people you know well?
I'd rarely sell any pups, and if I did, it'd be to someone I really trusted, knew was in the weight pull/show world or even hog hunting world.

How often and what would you compete in?
Weight pull, and hog hunting, as often as I could.

Where would you keep your dogs and how often would you exercise them? Would you chain, tie out, or kennel your dogs?
I'd keep them on chain set-ups. I'd exercise them everyday if possible, or at least five days a week. I'd keep the pups inside.


What would be your maximum number of dogs?
Probably no more than 10, because I believe that is the maximum amount I'd be able to effectively be able to take care of alone. If I had enough money to have someone help me, then possibly more.

What age would you sell the pups at?
Probably 8-12 weeks.

What would be YOUR vision of a perfect breeder?

Someone who has a clean yard, healthy, conformed, athletic dogs. Someone who is very picky about whom gets a dog. Someone who is willing to keep every single pup.

What would your yard and kennel be like if YOU were an APBT breeder?
It would be well maintained, and done to the best of my ability.

Wanted to add that I really have no ambition to be a breeder, though, or have a kennel. I don't feel I know enough about the breed at this time, or enough about the health of dogs and pups to do it.
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Old 12-15-2008, 08:38 PM   #17
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If you were an APBT breeder, what would you breed for?
Bombproof temperament, drive, sound working structure.

What would you change in the breed?
Not much. I'd like to see a greater number of bulldogs out there with more workable drive, attracting active and responsible dog sport folk.

Would you want to be highly publicized or fairly private?
Private.

Who would you sell your puppies to - anybody or only people you know well?
I'd retain most pups for myself (ie: not having many litters) and place dogs only with those I know well.

How often and what would you compete in?
I personally like Schutzhund, but I would want to produce dogs that can excell at any dog sport put in front of them.

Where would you keep your dogs and how often would you exercise them?
If not inside with me, outside on a proper tether set-up. Excerise varies--springpole, flirtpole, carpetmill, walks and training.

Would you chain, tie out, or kennel your dogs?
Good tether set-up.

What would be your maximum number of dogs?
I prefer a smaller number of dogs. Maybe 5.

What age would you sell the pups at?
Depends on who I am "selling" to and what kind of dog they're looking for.

What would be YOUR vision of a perfect breeder?
Someone who is tough on temperament, health tests and titles their dogs in working venues.

What would your yard and kennel be like if YOU were an APBT breeder?
Um. Nice?


Interesting thread, it make me think---made me think "glad I'm not a breeder." Easy to talk about, not easy to do.
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Old 12-16-2008, 03:21 AM   #18
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Interesting thread, it make me think---made me think "glad I'm not a breeder." Easy to talk about, not easy to do. Best response out of the whole thread!
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Old 12-16-2008, 03:23 AM   #19
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With all due respect, wish in one hand, you-know-what in the other.
Breeding dogs is way different deal than what you got going on.
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Old 12-16-2008, 03:41 AM   #20
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If you were an APBT breeder, what would you breed for? What would you change in the breed? Would you want to be highly publicized or fairly private? Who would you sell your puppies to - anybody or only people you know well? How often and what would you compete in? Where would you keep your dogs and how often would you exercise them? Would you chain, tie out, or kennel your dogs? What would be your maximum number of dogs? What age would you sell the pups at? What would be YOUR vision of a perfect breeder? What would your yard and kennel be like if YOU were an APBT breeder?
I don't know what I would breed for...probably the love of the breed. I don't know what I want to change in the breed...in a perfect world get the DA out of them but I don't see that happening. I would sell my puppies to interviewed homes and a home visit...to make sure that they will stay contained and are living in a safe enviroment. I wouldn't complete in anything except being lovin' friendly dogs. I would keep my dogs/pups in a heated(would want to build it for the dogs) Barn like area with Kennels for all of them the kennels would have thick bars and locks so that nobody could steal or let them out and they couldn't escape themselves. Exercise would happen once a day, hopefully twice(whether playing, going on walks/runs or anything else) for 30 mins at a time. In a perfect world if all I did was breed pups the max # of dogs would probably be around 8 dogs NOT including pups. To people I know well I would sell the dogs at around 12 weeks. To all else I would wait until the pups were "fixed" so that away there would be no backyard breeding. Also all the pups would leave completely updated with shots. My yard would be huge and divide in a family yard(safe for kids and humans without dog contact) and the the rest would be open to the dogs but a huge fence around the property.
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