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Old 01-10-2008, 06:12 PM   #1
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Hye FD.. no worries. We've all had accidents.. I can't think of one person that has been around dogs for any length of time will say they've NEVER had an accident. Even the best dogmen of all times had accidents from time to time. Don't let it get you down.. ya'll did good with a quick break up of the dogs. I'd be VERy VERY wary about getting her around other dogs again. Seems to me that once mine got a feel for a fight they were itching to go again from then on.
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Old 01-10-2008, 06:23 PM   #2
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Dogs Fighting and Chocolate Eating are very similiar...once you get the taste for it you just can't stop yourself...
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Old 01-11-2008, 06:22 AM   #3
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Just as a note to the person above leaving dogs alone......(502amandab)..........

............ I have had APBT's for over 15 years, and my old dogs were left alone, together.... all day, for over a decade, with no issue. Now it is worth noting these two were a mated pair (male and female). Of course I would NEVER do this with same sex dogs, but it can be done, with the right dogs. I speak only from personal experience.
I had a male and female who were left alone in the house together for 10 years without incident but I was just real lucky and ignorant. They were my first APBTs and I would never leave the dogs I have now together. All my dogs and the fosters are crated. My female Sil is the only one not crated.
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Old 02-10-2008, 09:00 AM   #4
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I was actually really lucky as before I got my second dog, I saw quite a few incidents happen with friends dogs being left alone together. When Marz was still a pup and crated anyway, I had some guy come up to me to check them out. He started telling me a story about his two pit bull girls who were "best friends" and one day, while left alone together in his car, he came back to two dead dogs. He was literally in tears and begged me to take his advice and not leave my two alone together and I took it to heart. I actually know of a couple of opposite sex couples that got in some pretty harsh scraps. One the lady was actually there but VERY pregnant and couldn't break it up and both dogs died. Opposite sex is no guarantee, that's for sure.
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Old 02-10-2008, 09:07 AM   #5
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Just as a note to the person above leaving dogs alone......(502amandab)..........

............ I have had APBT's for over 15 years, and my old dogs were left alone, together.... all day, for over a decade, with no issue. Now it is worth noting these two were a mated pair (male and female). Of course I would NEVER do this with same sex dogs, but it can be done, with the right dogs. I speak only from personal experience.
You were extremely lucky and your situation was an exception to the rule.
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Old 02-10-2008, 09:09 AM   #6
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... and FD: Thank you for sharing the incident.

It is a good lesson for many, and a great reminder for all of us.
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Old 02-10-2008, 07:29 PM   #7
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I was actually really lucky as before I got my second dog, I saw quite a few incidents happen with friends dogs being left alone together. When Marz was still a pup and crated anyway, I had some guy come up to me to check them out. He started telling me a story about his two pit bull girls who were "best friends" and one day, while left alone together in his car, he came back to two dead dogs. He was literally in tears and begged me to take his advice and not leave my two alone together and I took it to heart. I actually know of a couple of opposite sex couples that got in some pretty harsh scraps. One the lady was actually there but VERY pregnant and couldn't break it up and both dogs died. Opposite sex is no guarantee, that's for sure.
oh god that happened to me once.my MIL had a sbt and she absolutly hated other dogs esp. my BIL's male apbt Flint. Isis was sleeping with us in the living room and flint was in another room with BIL and his stupid girlfriend.well she went to the bathroom and when she went back into her room she didnt close the door properly and i woke up 7 months prego as big as a damn house to see the two dogs nose to nose giving each other the "stink eye".so im thinking $hit i gotta somehow wake Mike without making a sound because i knew if i made a move it would be on.they had a minor scrap but it wasnt too bad because i saw what was going on. very scary though
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Old 02-10-2008, 07:49 PM   #8
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Dogs Fighting and Chocolate Eating are very similiar...once you get the taste for it you just can't stop yourself...
This cracked me up.... well, ok, more the Chocolate Eating part than the dog fighting!!

By the way..... to be a "myth buster".... DieselDawg is right, once they fight, they are more anxious about it the next time, or maybe "more ready" the next time....... HOWEVER, it has nothing to do with the myth of "once they taste blood, their killers". You know... we've all heard that saying, "Once they taste blood, their never 'right' again"..... This simply isn't true, but, once they have gotten into a fight, I think they are more 'alert' to it the next time, or maybe, more 'on guard' for it.

(I'm not busting your chops DieselDawg..... just wanted to add that yes, they are more prone to fight, but no, once they get the taste of blood that they become killers.... not that you implied that, but just to clarify for any newbies, because we've all heard that at some point. )
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Old 06-11-2008, 05:27 AM   #9
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Tonight Indy got into a fight with another dog. Zola the other dog, belongs to a friend of mine, she is a pit bull mix, and I had taken Indy over to their house a few times now, so she and Zola could play in the backyard.

Now let me say this first, every time the dogs were together, they were strictly supervised. Zola and Indy got a long really really well. And Indy has always gotten along well with other dogs, she grew up with my step-mom's labradoodle Jesse, and has been around other dogs, with out a problem. Zola as well.

Tonight, we went over, did our on leash intro for awhile, then let them loose to run in the yard. They played for awhile, then took them in to have some water and to rest for a bit. After awhile of them playing inside they started getting a little snippy at each other so they were separated for awhile. While we were getting them to go outside again, they just flew at each other, maybe over the water bowl, who knows. At any rate in all of 3 seconds there was a dog fight in front of us. We were able to break it up quickly, my boyfriend grabbing Indy and myself getting Zola...and my breakstick with the other hand. It happened in a matter of seconds. And was over in about as much time.

Thank god we are strict about supervising our dogs, and THANK GOD I had my breakstick on me, even though I didn't have to use it, I'm glad it was there.

I know I should have known better than to put them back together after them getting alittle snappy. But, what happened, happened, and Indy has a few bite wounds on her, Zola made it out with out a mark on her. It could have been a lot worse.

My point is, Indy was always good with other dogs until today, but I always knew she could "turn on" at anytime, and from now on, my guard will always be up even more than it was with her if she is ever around another dog.
This is a great example regarding pitbulls getting alone with other dogs. And thankfully, you had a breakstreak. Hope Indy feels better.
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Old 09-30-2008, 04:45 AM   #10
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Tonight Indy got into a fight with another dog. Zola the other dog, belongs to a friend of mine, she is a pit bull mix, and I had taken Indy over to their house a few times now, so she and Zola could play in the backyard.

Now let me say this first, every time the dogs were together, they were strictly supervised. Zola and Indy got a long really really well. And Indy has always gotten along well with other dogs, she grew up with my step-mom's labradoodle Jesse, and has been around other dogs, with out a problem. Zola as well.

Tonight, we went over, did our on leash intro for awhile, then let them loose to run in the yard. They played for awhile, then took them in to have some water and to rest for a bit. After awhile of them playing inside they started getting a little snippy at each other so they were separated for awhile. While we were getting them to go outside again, they just flew at each other, maybe over the water bowl, who knows. At any rate in all of 3 seconds there was a dog fight in front of us. We were able to break it up quickly, my boyfriend grabbing Indy and myself getting Zola...and my breakstick with the other hand. It happened in a matter of seconds. And was over in about as much time.

Thank god we are strict about supervising our dogs, and THANK GOD I had my breakstick on me, even though I didn't have to use it, I'm glad it was there.

I know I should have known better than to put them back together after them getting alittle snappy. But, what happened, happened, and Indy has a few bite wounds on her, Zola made it out with out a mark on her. It could have been a lot worse.

My point is, Indy was always good with other dogs until today, but I always knew she could "turn on" at anytime, and from now on, my guard will always be up even more than it was with her if she is ever around another dog.
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Old 09-30-2008, 04:50 AM   #11
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I am sorry to hear this and I hope Indy will be okay. We all learn from our mistakes and thank goodness you had the breakstick even though you did not have to use it....Give Indy big hugs for me.
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Old 09-30-2008, 04:51 AM   #12
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I'm just curious, how do you plan to proceed? Do you think she'll be able to play with other dogs or will you have to keep her separated?
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Old 09-30-2008, 04:51 AM   #13
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It sounds like you and your boyfriend are doing the right things...it does happen fast tho...faster than we can get there.
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Old 09-30-2008, 04:52 AM   #14
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I am glad that no dogs got seriously hurt!
Apollo has been in several scuffles with loose dogs, it is so scary. I hate to even walk him anymore.
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Old 09-30-2008, 04:53 AM   #15
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Im glad the dogs are allright and you and your friends are too! You know that you might get chewed out a lil on here, but none the less you learn from your mistakes!
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Old 09-30-2008, 04:54 AM   #16
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I'm just curious, how do you plan to proceed? Do you think she'll be able to play with other dogs or will you have to keep her separated?
I'm going to wait awhile, but next time should we choose to take her around another dog, it will have to be under heavy supervision. I just don't want to put her or another dog in a situation where they could be seriously hurt.

It sounds like you and your boyfriend are doing the right things...it does happen fast tho...faster than we can get there.
Yeah, we were right on top of them when it started, which helped in ending it as quickly as it started. If we had even been just a few feet away it could have ended differently.
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Old 09-30-2008, 04:56 AM   #17
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Im glad the dogs are allright and you and your friends are too! You know that you might get chewed out a lil on here, but none the less you learn from your mistakes!
I would rather post it so others can learn, than be afraid to post it because of a few harsh words.
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Old 09-30-2008, 04:57 AM   #18
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You know that you might get chewed out a lil on here, but none the less you learn from your mistakes! I do not think that will happen, we all know firedrake13 would not do anything to cause her dog harm, she is a reg poster here and a very responsible owner, who by the way was kind enough to share her mistake so we can all learn from it.

Welcome to the forum Oldcutm
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Old 09-30-2008, 05:15 AM   #19
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Yeah i know what you guys mean! I like all the story's and info that you guys post up! I hope that what i wrote wasnt meant in a bad way!
And thank you Celtic
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Old 09-30-2008, 05:35 AM   #20
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i have a feeling this was posted because of my post about my 2 dogs being left alone....

BUT, im glad it was posted..
i am very nervous about leaving them alone, and was from the start, i have always wanted diesel to be crated, even before we got bailey, but like i said i leave while my bf is still home, and he leaves the dogs alone..so its up to him to actually crate them..exept for when i go to school, then it is my responsibility.

i will let him read this, or read it to him if i have to, and hope we can work together at figuring something out with the crate and/or get another crate so they can both be crated. i would rather crate them both so 1 doesnt feel like they are being punished..ya know.

thanks for posting this.
Amanda

btw, its not that im irresponsible, or a bad dog owner, diesel is my first dog, i have only had him since feb, and i just got bailey over the weekend....im only 22 and my bf is 21, we are very new dog owners and i personally get offended really easily being called irresponsible and i feel like people look at me like im a bad dog owner, and im trying to get my baby hurt. im not..in fact, i can honestly say i am the best pet owner I KNOW...i love my dogs, keep them in doors, walk them everyday (not just let them in the yard to go potty) and play with them giving them tons of attention...i have faults, and im still learning. but expecially with 2 dogs, i am really really knew, and because of it coming at such short notice, i didnt really have time to do any real research. please dont judge me, im doing only what i know, and learning as i go...
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