[Slonopotam845]

I think it has been delayed

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politi...#ixzz268S30URg

[Drugmachine]

I agree too, that IF the catch etc remains the same for the same expenditure then there seems to be few legit causes for concern.
As I understand it though, a major concern is how the bycatch is treated.
My understanding is that in the really big hauls much of the by catch is suffocated or crushed.
I hae n odea whether the info us uptodate, but that was certainly a concern some time ago.

If that were answered then it should be OK I'd have thought.

I was also glad to have it put straight that it is NOt a bottom trawler.

I'm only going from the news reports, can't find anything elsewhere, but they are saying that it's nets are no different to other boats targetting the same species. The issue appears to be the fact that it can store more caught fish in a single trip than other fishing boats.

[Fegasderty]

I'm only going from the news reports, can't find anything elsewhere, but they are saying that it's nets are no different to other boats targetting the same species. The issue appears to be the fact that it can store more caught fish in a single trip than other fishing boats.

Ahhhh ... fair enough then.
I'd have thought monitoring a single, though very large, vessel would be easier than lots of small ones.
(and I know enough horror stories of small fishers (that I used to know personally) NOT abiding by the rules to not be romantic about smaller equalling better for the environment.)

[softy54534]

Ahhhh ... fair enough then.
I'd have thought monitoring a single, though very large, vessel would be easier than lots of small ones.
(and I know enough horror stories of small fishers (that I used to know personally) NOT abiding by the rules to not be romantic about smaller equalling better for the environment.)

I have similar thoughts, I note that other trawlers targetting the same species aren't being required to have the video monitoring that was originally outlined for this vessel...

I wonder if the FV Margiris can ship cattle to Indonesia...

[S.T.D.]

I'm only going from the news reports, can't find anything elsewhere, but they are saying that it's nets are no different to other boats targetting the same species. The issue appears to be the fact that it can store more caught fish in a single trip than other fishing boats.

I am wondering whether a concentrated catch in a specific location as opposed to a disseminated catch of the same extent can actually 'starve' a particular marine habitat location of species. Some species caught in the nets I would assume may be more location specific than others......just a thought. :-))

[Drugmachine]

I have similar thoughts, I note that other trawlers targetting the same species aren't being required to have the video monitoring that was originally outlined for this vessel...

I wonder if the FV Margiris can ship cattle to Indonesia...

It would have to be better all round, now that you mention it.

[Peptobismol]

I am wondering whether a concentrated catch in a specific location as opposed to a disseminated catch of the same extent can actually 'starve' a particular marine habitat location of species. Some species caught in the nets I would assume may be more location specific than others......just a thought. :-))

Fair enough .. there's always something to consider isn't there.

[brraverishhh]

I wonder if the FV Margiris can ship cattle to Indonesia...

Or asylum seekers from indonesia to nauru...

[Drugmachine]

Fair enough .. there's always something to consider isn't there.

Damn straight. That's why I shoot first and ask questions later *blows smoke from barrel* :-))

[Peptobismol]

Or asylum seekers from indonesia to nauru...

Oh DAMN!
I know I shouldn't be laughing .. it isn't funny and yet ... time I went outside and pulled up some weeds.

[HedgeYourBets]

Damn straight. That's why I shoot first and ask questions later *blows smoke from barrel* :-))

*ducks outside under cover of laughter*

[doctorzlo]

I am wondering whether a concentrated catch in a specific location as opposed to a disseminated catch of the same extent can actually 'starve' a particular marine habitat location of species. Some species caught in the nets I would assume may be more location specific than others......just a thought. :-))

That appears to be the major concern...

Are there current regulations on how intensive a location can be fished, ie is there a limit as to the number of trawlers allowed in the same area at once? I would have thought if the fishing was hot in an area you'd get everyone in that area...

[S.T.D.]

The way I figure it, economically it would be better for the Capt to swallow up a few pods of dolphins if they can get a big haul, as the ship would be valued more closer it got to its target in the smallest period of time, which might ratchet up the by-kill count, apart from considerations such as net.

[Raj_Copi_Jin]

That appears to be the major concern...

Are there current regulations on how intensive a location can be fished, ie is there a limit as to the number of trawlers allowed in the same area at once? I would have thought if the fishing was hot in an area you'd get everyone in that area...

Not sure. The current protected zones I think seek to achieve this to a degree. Unprotected commercial zones however are open slather to varying degrees.......but I may be wrong. :-))

[Raj_Copi_Jin]

The way I figure it, economically it would be better for the Capt to swallow up a few pods of dolphins if they can get a big haul, as the ship would be valued more closer it got to its target in the smallest period of time, which might ratchet up the by-kill count, apart from considerations such as net.

I think that those protesting know that this is how it is going to work, but being powerless to prove anything always makes people frustrated and angry and even work counterproductively at times.

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The roundup is mixed ... into it

[Big A]

Who needs fish anyway? They get in the way of a good steak. (very/tic) :-))