[erroxiainsona]

Long story short.
I now have some implants in my mouth (well jaw actually).
They appear to be ceramic / metal combinations.

I know that early on in discussing them I was told what they are made of etc, but we never actually discussed the properties (only their uses) .

Now I am wondering about them again; more particularly what makes some materials conduct heat so well and others not at all (like these or I wouldn't be able to bear drinking a hot coffee for example, something I tried with great trepidation, before realising it would be necessary property NOT to transmit any heat.



As you know I am not a science person really, so would appreciate a gentle intro to it.
Thanks.

(or maybe it is that there are now no nerves connecting to anything related to their placement that would feel the heat if it IS being transferred?)

Are the nerves removed with (part of) the teeth themselves?

Gross topic, I know, trust me.
:/

[piramirra]

Are the nerves removed with (part of) the teeth themselves?:/

I guess that would depend on the proceedure- capping the teeth, the rest of the tooth would still be there- but capping is often done when the toothe is dead & damaged in order to try & keep it. If the tooth was removed, then the roots would have gone with it. In that case, instead of the sharp pain in the jaw/head you would just feel any heat in the gum around the tooth.
I'm guessing you've had a tooth/teeth replaced. Probably a ceramic tooth with a metal pin to fasten it to the jaw?

[erroxiainsona]

No.
More complicated ... what constituted "dentistry" in the olden days.

All my teeth removed at age 16 on the local dentist's advice (one piece of which was that it would save my future husband the expense .. there are witnesses; other women my age from that town).

The outcome has been that due to ill-fitting dentures, just replacing them was no longer an option because of absorption? whatever of the bone in both upper and lower jaws leaving them dangerously fragile ; ." .. if you fall, forget your hip, protect your jaw".

So ... the procedures recommended (even after second opinions which I sought to try to find an avoiding procedure) were bone transplant etc and that followed by implants of some kind to which will be attached replacement "teeth

It is gross even to think about I know, but there it is.

So, no teeth of my own for over 50 years.


(Now you guys know why I say don't talk to ME about the good old days. The present day people dealing with oro-something and cranio-facial surgery etc tell me this is not uncommon.)


I must say that the technology I have been shown is pretty amazing .. they know how to keep my mind of what's happening by showing me how their machinery works.

I am thankful to be living now, when there is some corrective action available to me.

[erroxiainsona]

OH and I ought to add that it was not only recommended to girls / women; my brother-in-law got much the same rationale for the same procedure before he was 21 ... "get it all over and done with now".

[piramirra]

So ... the procedures recommended (even after second opinions which I sought to try to find an avoiding procedure) were bone transplant etc and that followed by implants of some kind to which will be attached replacement "teeth"

Implants are probably medical grade steel of some sort.

Here we go-
"Types of Implants in Use Today

Endosteal (in the bone): This is the most commonly used type of implant. The various types include screws, cylinders or blades surgically placed into the jawbone. Each implant holds one or more prosthetic teeth. This type of implant is generally used as an alternative for patients with bridges or removable dentures.

Subperiosteal (on the bone): These are placed on top of the jaw with the metal framework's posts protruding through the gum to hold the prosthesis. These types of implants are used for patients who are unable to wear conventional dentures and who have minimal bone height."

Ref http://www.perio.org/consumer/2m.htm/

[Patgaepx]

OH and I ought to add that it was not only recommended to girls / women; my brother-in-law got much the same rationale for the same procedure before he was 21 ... "get it all over and done with now".

Ls dad had all his teeth pulled out when he joined the Air Force in 1945, similar rationale, only the war ended and they never got around to giving him dentures.
I am a bit younger than jj and they were no longer pulling all your teeth out in one go, but if you went along with any kind of cavity the tooth came out.

[erroxiainsona]

Implants are probably medical grade steel of some sort.

Here we go-
"Types of Implants in Use Today

Endosteal (in the bone): This is the most commonly used type of implant. The various types include screws, cylinders or blades surgically placed into the jawbone. Each implant holds one or more prosthetic teeth. This type of implant is generally used as an alternative for patients with bridges or removable dentures.

Subperiosteal (on the bone): These are placed on top of the jaw with the metal framework's posts protruding through the gum to hold the prosthesis. These types of implants are used for patients who are unable to wear conventional dentures and who have minimal bone height."

Ref http://www.perio.org/consumer/2m.htm/

So you'd expect these to ransfer heat / cold fairly readily and yet that doesn't seem to be happening.

That can only mean no "nerves / pain receptors"in the surrounding tissue I think.

Will be back to read more later.

[piramirra]

So you'd expect these to ransfer heat / cold fairly readily and yet that doesn't seem to be happening.

That can only mean no "nerves / pain receptors"in the surrounding tissue I think.

No nerves for the teeth, and usually the teeth would probably be a ceramic. Very tough, and don't conduct heat at all well.

[erroxiainsona]

ahh, so I am closing in on the answer .

At this stage I only have the implants themselves NOT the capping provided by the teeth (yes, I scare people).

I had thought the ceramics would be good at insulating hot stuff from the underlying (in my ignorance thought of the heat shields on the shuttles!).

So, at this point I have to conclude that there are no "feeling bits" in my jaw that might receive any "hot" (or cold for that matter) warning messages that I have to conclude would be being transmitted by the umpteen inserted metal bits, top and bottom.

[Ndptbudd]

He might have looked tough, but he was a sook when it came to eating icecream.

[usaguedriedax]

He might have looked tough, but he was a sook when it came to eating icecream.

Shhh... or you'll have him going on about PPKs again...

[erroxiainsona]

He might have looked tough, but he was a sook when it came to eating icecream.

Don't laugh!

that's a bit how I look and I fully expected to have problems eating icecream (and drinking hot coffee) even though I knew that those things must have been addressed .. but am still trying to understand how.

[bortycuz]

Shhh... or you'll have him going on about PPKs again...

Damn straight, its nerdish, but you know it makes sense. If they want to stay with Walther make a modern version called the PPS.

[investmentonlinev2006x]

I'm told that the Japanese use Titanium inserts into the jaw with ceramic teeth attached. Very expensive process and quite common. Another friend, of Dutch East-Indies extraction, hates seeing gold teeth-reminds her too much of her WW2 captors.