[itaspCatCriny]

It just shows you doesn't it. If you become arrogant and take your eye off the ball you can be the best then bang!!!

Is Apple still eating into Microsoft's market or are Galaxy going to neutralise that?

[deermealec]

It just shows you doesn't it.

Does it? What is "it" and can you give us a link from somewhere?

[itaspCatCriny]

http://www.businessinsider.com/whitn...ampaign=recirc

[Tainlyferfara]

It just shows you doesn't it. If you become arrogant and take your eye off the ball you can be the best then bang!!!

Is Apple still eating into Microsoft's market or are Galaxy going to neutralise that?

Neither in particular - it's really all the "smartphones" that got them with their pants down. Nokia were in the position of having the highest mobile phone sales and they didn't plan on serious competition when they had something like 35% of the market (2005). Competition came along and they didn't take it seriously enough at first and now they are frantically looking for some way to fix it. It's sad that Blackberry (RIM) lost the plot as well though.

It's not just Nokia. I'm not sure that Windows Phone, however good it turns out to be, will make a serious dent in the iOS and Android market share. Microsoft missed the mp3 player market. They still don't sell Zune players retail anywhere but the USA. They are struggling to get a foot in tablets. There will be Windows phones and tablets and it's real catch up for them as well. Microsoft have the cash to deal with product failures, but not all companies do and markets do change quite quickly in the tech world.

[goatteatromiag]

Ilago, do you know how seemlessly Ios and Android OS integrate with Microsoft server and Exchange and the like?
Based on your experience, would the business community benefit from using the Windows phone OS over the other two when using MS server?

Could you think of any new style advantages a match up of MS phone and server software would bring?

[Tainlyferfara]

Ilago, do you know how seemlessly Ios and Android OS integrate with Microsoft server and Exchange and the like?
Based on your experience, would the business community benefit from using the Windows phone OS when using MS server?

I can't answer that because I don't know the whole as my work hasn't involved office based IT systems. My experience is in plant and equipment control systems which are little different. I know that RIM made extraordinary efforts to seamlessly integrate into corporate management systems and succeeded for quite a long time in slowing down the iDevice encroachment as RIM were more secure in the eyes of corporate management. In a past era, Windows CE and Windows Mobile only integrated with Outlook and that was rather limiting as mobile communications expanded dramatically and even Outlook outgrew the Windows mobile OSs. You couldn't install Windows Mobile 6.0 on a HP PDA without installing Outlook on the computer it was synched with for example.

I can't imagine that Microsoft would not integrate Windows Phone OS with their own corporate systems, but it may not matter any more. Five years ago, corporate IT systems were very different animals. The GFC probably changed many corporate ideas and reduced resources for tech upgrades significantly.

BYO device is now acceptable in most corporate structures. That wouldn't have been the case not long ago. With no adequate Microsoft alternative to iDevices and Android devices a lot of rules were altered to suit the tech environment. In many organisations employees are using their own Apple computers and using their own phones - that wouldn't have happened a few years ago. Probably started with iPhones but it all changed around the same time. For quite a while Outlook has dominated corporate email/calendering but even Outlook has been forced to integrate with non-Windows systems and non-computer devices and Gmail's incursions into the corporate world are significant, particularly in the academic world where internal usage is not limited to Microsoft only systems.

Some links to , general discussions, on these policy changes.

[goatteatromiag]

Thanks