LOGO
Reply to Thread New Thread
Old 04-24-2012, 07:07 AM   #1
xkQCaS4w

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
468
Senior Member
Default sick animals make good dinner
My imagination (ie search terms) has failed me.

I need to be able to describe why wild animals (and even domestic animals) are very likely to hide illnesses and injuries.

I know it's true. I know why. I know a few informal ways of describing it - "birds are masters of disguise" and that kind of stuff.

What I don't know is if there is a term that covers the concept.

I hope there is.

Anyone know what it might be?
xkQCaS4w is offline


Old 04-24-2012, 07:11 AM   #2
LINETFAD

Join Date
Nov 2005
Posts
426
Senior Member
Default
I suppose it might be covered by pursuit-deterrent signals in ethology. I was thinking at first of dishonest signalling, but that probably applies only to cases of sexual selection.
LINETFAD is offline


Old 04-24-2012, 03:43 PM   #3
xkQCaS4w

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
468
Senior Member
Default
Does that mean it's not an area of study generally? And is that because it's so well known no one bothers or because it's never actually been confirmed?
xkQCaS4w is offline


Old 04-24-2012, 04:59 PM   #4
xkQCaS4w

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
468
Senior Member
Default
the other place this kind of signalling occurs in packs where senior animals don't want to lose status, weakness leading to challenge by up and coming animals.

I goggled your term and read the wiki link which was useful.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_communication

Perhaps because the underlying behaviour (hide all weakness) has intra- and inter species meanings that it's never been categorised or considered as one thing?
xkQCaS4w is offline


Old 04-24-2012, 05:10 PM   #5
LINETFAD

Join Date
Nov 2005
Posts
426
Senior Member
Default
I don't know all that much about ethology, I'm afraid*. I think it might be one of those areas where it's difficult to design a decent study. There's still a lot of discussion (some quite lively) about pursuit deterrent behaviours that seem to be quite well-defined --- like pronking/stotting in springboks and other gazelles.

_______

* But I could make something up. Probably wouldn't be anywhere near as wild and wonderful as the truth, though.
LINETFAD is offline


Old 04-24-2012, 06:01 PM   #6
daguy

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
607
Senior Member
Default
Isn't it either a prey species exhibiting a fear response which overrides pain, injury, sickness (categorise under predation avoidance) - whereas in the case of other species it may be more related to deceptive signalling in mate selection or trying to maintain higher social status in social animals. ...
daguy is offline


Old 04-24-2012, 08:04 PM   #7
xkQCaS4w

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
468
Senior Member
Default
The same technique being used for different purposes? That could be the way it is more usually conceptualised.

It's not the flight / freeze response I am thinking of.
xkQCaS4w is offline


Old 04-24-2012, 08:07 PM   #8
viiagrag

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
401
Senior Member
Default
Interesting topic. I've noticed that fish will target an injured tankmate given that they'll likely win.
viiagrag is offline



Reply to Thread New Thread

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

All times are GMT +1. The time now is 02:27 AM.
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2
Design & Developed by Amodity.com
Copyright© Amodity