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**t78VPkdO** · 10-20-2009, 12:10 AM

Windows 7 comes out this week. Is anyone going to upgrade??

I am considering it, since I have XP right now. Vista seemed too buggy for me to jump ship. I have heard a lot of good things about "7".

Anyone got an opinion??

**new-nickname-zanovo** · 10-20-2009, 12:15 AM

Windows 7 is like Vista a hardware hog. Don't upgrade unless you have some recent hardware.

**7HlBQS8j** · 10-20-2009, 12:27 AM

Asus M3A76-CM mobo
AMD 780 Chipset
AMD Athlon 7500 Black Edition @ 2700 Mhz
4096 Physical Memory (2x2048 DDR2-SDRAM)
AMD 760G Video

Is that enough???

**imnaone** · 10-20-2009, 02:35 AM

I am considering it, since I have XP right now.

Hope you've got your entire hard drive backed up!

http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/153561

"Anyone upgrading from XP to Windows 7 isn't just going to lose "most installed programs," but rather everything. There's no way to upgrade directly from XP to Windows 7, at least not using a Windows 7 media disc. Your only option is to perform a "clean install," which essentially wipes all the data off your existing drive and forces you to start fresh."

Way to go Microsoft!

**Theorsell** · 10-20-2009, 03:09 AM

Windows 7 comes out this week. Is anyone going to upgrade??

I am considering it, since I have XP right now. Vista seemed too buggy for me to jump ship. I have heard a lot of good things about "7".

Anyone got an opinion??

My opinion? Never upgrade windows. If you are gonna do that, upgrade the machine or just wait. Newer OS's requires a dual core minimum, quad core preferrably. It isn't the OS that is going to make the experience, it is the apps that you run on it.

(unless you are hard core...which you may well be).

Just keep XP. I like it. It works well, and with everything. Save the 7 "upgrade" for your next machine...after the bugs are worked out and the service packs have been released and established.

**BamSaitinypap** · 10-20-2009, 05:33 AM

Asus M3A76-CM mobo
AMD 780 Chipset
AMD Athlon 7500 Black Edition @ 2700 Mhz
4096 Physical Memory (2x2048 DDR2-SDRAM)
AMD 760G Video

Is that enough???

Yes but the Video card is weak. I thought that mobo had a built in Chipset for a ATI Radeon 3000?

I would get a mid range or high end video card for that system. And as pointed out above you'll need to fresh install. (Which is what I would recommend even it you could upgrade.)

**8cyVn4RJ** · 10-20-2009, 08:31 AM

Yes but the Video card is weak. I thought that mobo had a built in Chipset for a ATI Radeon 3000?

I would get a mid range or high end video card for that system. And as pointed out above you'll need to fresh install. (Which is what I would recommend even it you could upgrade.)

I am just going by what PC Wizard 2009 says. Copied it right off the screen. How can I check??

**dalnecymync** · 10-20-2009, 01:41 PM

What does device manager say?

**Poothevokprot** · 10-20-2009, 05:39 PM

Windows 7 is like Vista a hardware hog. Don't upgrade unless you have some recent hardware.

So windows 7 is a bad idea on an atom powered netbook?
Most things i've read say it's the OS for netbooks in the future.

I'm just going by what I have read.

If I ever decide to buy a netbook i'd probably put the Ubuntu based netbook distro on it myself as i've gotten to the point where I only use windows to play WOW & lately i've been experianceing decent stability playing WOW on linux. I just need to tweak my hardware & drivers a little before I roll the install as a custom Image for re-install purposes.

**adverwork** · 10-20-2009, 06:25 PM

what does device manager say?

amd760g

**delnisfernan** · 10-20-2009, 06:40 PM

So windows 7 is a bad idea on an atom powered netbook?
Most things i've read say it's the OS for netbooks in the future.

I'm just going by what I have read.

If I ever decide to buy a netbook i'd probably put the Ubuntu based netbook distro on it myself as i've gotten to the point where I only use windows to play WOW & lately i've been experianceing decent stability playing WOW on linux. I just need to tweak my hardware & drivers a little before I roll the install as a custom Image for re-install purposes.

It will run but without all the toys that make 7 or Vista what it is. Both are eye candy desktops.

**77rexulceme** · 10-20-2009, 06:41 PM

amd760g

Yuck. Upgrade the video card, all the other stuff will work. It will run 7 or Vista but it will be slow if you use Aero and the sidebar/gadgets.

**Amomiamup** · 10-20-2009, 08:17 PM

It will run but without all the toys that make 7 or Vista what it is. Both are eye candy desktops.

I'm not a big fan of the eye candy just for the sake of eye candy.

I can get by on a minimal linux distro like crunchbang with no desktop icons just fine.

**optormtix** · 10-28-2009, 11:47 PM

Windows 7 comes out this week. Is anyone going to upgrade??

I am considering it, since I have XP right now. Vista seemed too buggy for me to jump ship. I have heard a lot of good things about "7".

Anyone got an opinion??

I got my copy in the mail yesterday, bought it during the $50 sale they had earlier in the summer.

I've been running the beta and RC versions of Win 7 most of the summer and I like it. I installed it on a 4 year old laptop that had XP and it worked great, it gave new life to the laptop in my opinion, and it booted faster.

I think the new task bar features are great. And it performs well. The version I use on my desktop churns away for weeks on end without a need to reboot (I've rebooted once due to an app/os problem, not sure what it was, but shutdown and restart, 20 seconds later it works fine again.) It comes out of sleep mode in an instant and also looks good. I knew early on about the 'upgrade' path Microsoft was planning, so I've planned around it with partitioning, as I always do anyway, but I do think it will be a pain for many users. But not as much of a pain as it would be to migrate files and setting to a completely new OS. If you choose to stay in the windows world, I think this is a worthwhile upgrade. If you have an 8 year old computer running XP and expect it to happily run with a brand new version of the OS, you are naive. Same goes for macs. And linux.

**draigenia** · 10-28-2009, 11:48 PM

I can get by on a minimal linux distro like crunchbang with no desktop icons just fine.

how many distros of linux do you run? you mention one yesterday and another today.

**WeightWatchyshow** · 10-29-2009, 04:09 PM

how many distros of linux do you run? you mention one yesterday and another today.

I Run PCLinuxOS on my bedroom Desktop.
I run Slitaz on my 266mhz p2 laptop.
I run CrunchBang on my 650mhz P3 laptop & my P4 laptop.
The 650mhz laptop is mine.
The P4 is work supplied laptop & I dual boot crunchbang & XP.

I put crunchbang on it because I like using boxee.tv on linux to watch streaming video on my back porch while I grill.

I get too much stuttering in windows on that laptop & didn't want a fullblown ubuntu install.

**ViaxobbimeVar** · 10-29-2009, 05:47 PM

I Run PCLinuxOS on my bedroom Desktop.
I run Slitaz on my 266mhz p2 laptop.
I run CrunchBang on my 650mhz P3 laptop & my P4 laptop.
The 650mhz laptop is mine.
The P4 is work supplied laptop & I dual boot crunchbang & XP.

I put crunchbang on it because I like using boxee.tv on linux to watch streaming video on my back porch while I grill.

I get too much stuttering in windows on that laptop & didn't want a fullblown ubuntu install.

I looked into boxee once. Can you still use that with Hulu?

**rozalinasi** · 10-29-2009, 06:27 PM

I looked into boxee once. Can you still use that with Hulu?

Yes.
But Hulu will eventually go pay & I don't know if that will change anything.

I doubt it will.

Boxee can pass log-on info to pandora.com so it should be able to do it with Hulu.

**Vokbeelllicky** · 10-29-2009, 08:59 PM

Yes.
But Hulu will eventually go pay & I don't know if that will change anything.

I doubt it will.

Boxee can pass log-on info to pandora.com so it should be able to do it with Hulu.

I've thought about buying a netbook capable of HD playback for something like that. You can get them for $200 and they are tiny.

Do you use a remote with yours?

**enteltcheft** · 10-29-2009, 10:27 PM

I've thought about buying a netbook capable of HD playback for something like that. You can get them for $200 and they are tiny.

Do you use a remote with yours?

I've got the media center remote.
I just havn't sat down & configured LIRC yet.

The laptop screen isn't too big so keyboard is always within arms reach.

I've been building an HTPC case out of wood for the last 4 months. LOL!
To put in the living room. i'll use remote with that as it will double as my DVD player.

The netbook with HD playback does sound nice. Do those have external video outputs?

10-20-2009, 12:10 AM	#1
t78VPkdO Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 444 Senior Member	Windows 7 Windows 7 comes out this week. Is anyone going to upgrade?? I am considering it, since I have XP right now. Vista seemed too buggy for me to jump ship. I have heard a lot of good things about "7". Anyone got an opinion?? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-20-2009, 12:15 AM	#2
new-nickname-zanovo Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 487 Senior Member	Windows 7 is like Vista a hardware hog. Don't upgrade unless you have some recent hardware. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-20-2009, 12:27 AM	#3
7HlBQS8j Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 448 Senior Member	Asus M3A76-CM mobo AMD 780 Chipset AMD Athlon 7500 Black Edition @ 2700 Mhz 4096 Physical Memory (2x2048 DDR2-SDRAM) AMD 760G Video Is that enough??? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-20-2009, 02:35 AM	#4
imnaone Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 365 Senior Member	I am considering it, since I have XP right now. Hope you've got your entire hard drive backed up! http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/153561 "Anyone upgrading from XP to Windows 7 isn't just going to lose "most installed programs," but rather everything. There's no way to upgrade directly from XP to Windows 7, at least not using a Windows 7 media disc. Your only option is to perform a "clean install," which essentially wipes all the data off your existing drive and forces you to start fresh." Way to go Microsoft! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-20-2009, 03:09 AM	#5
Theorsell Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 512 Senior Member	Windows 7 comes out this week. Is anyone going to upgrade?? I am considering it, since I have XP right now. Vista seemed too buggy for me to jump ship. I have heard a lot of good things about "7". Anyone got an opinion?? My opinion? Never upgrade windows. If you are gonna do that, upgrade the machine or just wait. Newer OS's requires a dual core minimum, quad core preferrably. It isn't the OS that is going to make the experience, it is the apps that you run on it. (unless you are hard core...which you may well be). Just keep XP. I like it. It works well, and with everything. Save the 7 "upgrade" for your next machine...after the bugs are worked out and the service packs have been released and established. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-20-2009, 05:33 AM	#6
BamSaitinypap Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 502 Senior Member	Asus M3A76-CM mobo AMD 780 Chipset AMD Athlon 7500 Black Edition @ 2700 Mhz 4096 Physical Memory (2x2048 DDR2-SDRAM) AMD 760G Video Is that enough??? Yes but the Video card is weak. I thought that mobo had a built in Chipset for a ATI Radeon 3000? I would get a mid range or high end video card for that system. And as pointed out above you'll need to fresh install. (Which is what I would recommend even it you could upgrade.) Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-20-2009, 08:31 AM	#7
8cyVn4RJ Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 488 Senior Member	Yes but the Video card is weak. I thought that mobo had a built in Chipset for a ATI Radeon 3000? I would get a mid range or high end video card for that system. And as pointed out above you'll need to fresh install. (Which is what I would recommend even it you could upgrade.) I am just going by what PC Wizard 2009 says. Copied it right off the screen. How can I check?? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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dalnecymync Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 467 Senior Member	What does device manager say? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-20-2009, 05:39 PM	#9
Poothevokprot Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 601 Senior Member	Windows 7 is like Vista a hardware hog. Don't upgrade unless you have some recent hardware. So windows 7 is a bad idea on an atom powered netbook? Most things i've read say it's the OS for netbooks in the future. I'm just going by what I have read. If I ever decide to buy a netbook i'd probably put the Ubuntu based netbook distro on it myself as i've gotten to the point where I only use windows to play WOW & lately i've been experianceing decent stability playing WOW on linux. I just need to tweak my hardware & drivers a little before I roll the install as a custom Image for re-install purposes. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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adverwork Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 488 Senior Member	what does device manager say? amd760g Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-20-2009, 06:40 PM	#11
delnisfernan Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 544 Senior Member	So windows 7 is a bad idea on an atom powered netbook? Most things i've read say it's the OS for netbooks in the future. I'm just going by what I have read. If I ever decide to buy a netbook i'd probably put the Ubuntu based netbook distro on it myself as i've gotten to the point where I only use windows to play WOW & lately i've been experianceing decent stability playing WOW on linux. I just need to tweak my hardware & drivers a little before I roll the install as a custom Image for re-install purposes. It will run but without all the toys that make 7 or Vista what it is. Both are eye candy desktops. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-20-2009, 06:41 PM	#12
77rexulceme Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 504 Senior Member	amd760g Yuck. Upgrade the video card, all the other stuff will work. It will run 7 or Vista but it will be slow if you use Aero and the sidebar/gadgets. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-20-2009, 08:17 PM	#13
Amomiamup Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 414 Senior Member	It will run but without all the toys that make 7 or Vista what it is. Both are eye candy desktops. I'm not a big fan of the eye candy just for the sake of eye candy. I can get by on a minimal linux distro like crunchbang with no desktop icons just fine. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-28-2009, 11:47 PM	#14
optormtix Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 485 Senior Member	Windows 7 comes out this week. Is anyone going to upgrade?? I am considering it, since I have XP right now. Vista seemed too buggy for me to jump ship. I have heard a lot of good things about "7". Anyone got an opinion?? I got my copy in the mail yesterday, bought it during the $50 sale they had earlier in the summer. I've been running the beta and RC versions of Win 7 most of the summer and I like it. I installed it on a 4 year old laptop that had XP and it worked great, it gave new life to the laptop in my opinion, and it booted faster. I think the new task bar features are great. And it performs well. The version I use on my desktop churns away for weeks on end without a need to reboot (I've rebooted once due to an app/os problem, not sure what it was, but shutdown and restart, 20 seconds later it works fine again.) It comes out of sleep mode in an instant and also looks good. I knew early on about the 'upgrade' path Microsoft was planning, so I've planned around it with partitioning, as I always do anyway, but I do think it will be a pain for many users. But not as much of a pain as it would be to migrate files and setting to a completely new OS. If you choose to stay in the windows world, I think this is a worthwhile upgrade. If you have an 8 year old computer running XP and expect it to happily run with a brand new version of the OS, you are naive. Same goes for macs. And linux. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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draigenia Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 534 Senior Member	I can get by on a minimal linux distro like crunchbang with no desktop icons just fine. how many distros of linux do you run? you mention one yesterday and another today. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-29-2009, 04:09 PM	#16
WeightWatchyshow Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 428 Senior Member	how many distros of linux do you run? you mention one yesterday and another today. I Run PCLinuxOS on my bedroom Desktop. I run Slitaz on my 266mhz p2 laptop. I run CrunchBang on my 650mhz P3 laptop & my P4 laptop. The 650mhz laptop is mine. The P4 is work supplied laptop & I dual boot crunchbang & XP. I put crunchbang on it because I like using boxee.tv on linux to watch streaming video on my back porch while I grill. I get too much stuttering in windows on that laptop & didn't want a fullblown ubuntu install. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-29-2009, 05:47 PM	#17
ViaxobbimeVar Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 437 Senior Member	I Run PCLinuxOS on my bedroom Desktop. I run Slitaz on my 266mhz p2 laptop. I run CrunchBang on my 650mhz P3 laptop & my P4 laptop. The 650mhz laptop is mine. The P4 is work supplied laptop & I dual boot crunchbang & XP. I put crunchbang on it because I like using boxee.tv on linux to watch streaming video on my back porch while I grill. I get too much stuttering in windows on that laptop & didn't want a fullblown ubuntu install. I looked into boxee once. Can you still use that with Hulu? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-29-2009, 06:27 PM	#18
rozalinasi Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 468 Senior Member	I looked into boxee once. Can you still use that with Hulu? Yes. But Hulu will eventually go pay & I don't know if that will change anything. I doubt it will. Boxee can pass log-on info to pandora.com so it should be able to do it with Hulu. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-29-2009, 08:59 PM	#19
Vokbeelllicky Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 603 Senior Member	Yes. But Hulu will eventually go pay & I don't know if that will change anything. I doubt it will. Boxee can pass log-on info to pandora.com so it should be able to do it with Hulu. I've thought about buying a netbook capable of HD playback for something like that. You can get them for $200 and they are tiny. Do you use a remote with yours? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-29-2009, 10:27 PM	#20
enteltcheft Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 422 Senior Member	I've thought about buying a netbook capable of HD playback for something like that. You can get them for $200 and they are tiny. Do you use a remote with yours? I've got the media center remote. I just havn't sat down & configured LIRC yet. The laptop screen isn't too big so keyboard is always within arms reach. I've been building an HTPC case out of wood for the last 4 months. LOL! To put in the living room. i'll use remote with that as it will double as my DVD player. The netbook with HD playback does sound nice. Do those have external video outputs? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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