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Old 08-24-2009, 07:15 PM   #21
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Meth is a horrible drug (worse than cocaine or LSD in my opinion), but it's also cheap and easy to make even without any skills or access to a proper lab.
We called it Germantown Cocaine back in the day (Germantown was a section of Philly). You could buy it dirt cheap. Philly was a big place nationally for it because a certain motorcycle gang based here was quite active in producing and selling it.

All I have to do is see the word meth and I can recall the burn that went along with the snort. It was horrible. Of course, you would forget about that part by the 2nd day you had been awake.
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Old 08-24-2009, 07:24 PM   #22
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I don't follow the news about other sports that much, but most of the news I do hear involves drugs designed specifically for performance enhancement. Is there any sport other than tennis that "catches" so many players for stuff that's found in vitamins, supplements, cold medicine, etc. that the general public takes every day?
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Old 08-24-2009, 07:28 PM   #23
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It was late 90's in Plano. The City actually went to the extreme of going to the press and announcing they were Heroin City, USA. Undercover operations, etc. About 20 kids died. Many, many more ended up in ERs. Parents initially said "Not here. Not my child". Pretty much all middle and upper-middle class kids. Mainly white. I always felt the kids there were put under enormous pressure to succeed. It's a very conservative community. The public schools are way better than the Dallas schools. The football teams win state championships. Probably many suburban cities all over the USA like it. But, unlike others, they actually accepted and welcomed the bad publicity to make a difference. And they probably saved a ton of lives.
Note: As would be pointed out on a certain other "tennis" board, the key words in the above story are "mainly white", and in this instance, a certain member of that other message board would be 100% correct to point it out. Would they have been as concerned and acted so fast otherwise?
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Old 08-24-2009, 07:33 PM   #24
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Note: As would be pointed out on a certain other "tennis" board, the key words in the above story are "mainly white", and in this instance, a certain member of that other message board would be 100% correct to point it out. Would they have been as concerned and acted so fast otherwise?
But heroin has historically been a "mainly white" drug, shtexas. Why do you think we spent so much money attacking poppy fields in Asia?
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Old 08-24-2009, 07:41 PM   #25
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But heroin has historically been a "mainly white" drug, shtexas. Why do you think we spent so much money attacking poppy fields in Asia?
I know it sounds cynical, but you have to wonder, especially when you read or hear things like this:

We have to do something. It's happening to the "good" kids.

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It's not the junkies; it's the good kids (completely oblivious that their kids were probably junkies)
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Old 08-24-2009, 08:03 PM   #26
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I know it sounds cynical, but you have to wonder, especially when you read or hear things like this:

We have to do something. It's happening to the "good" kids.

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It's not the junkies; it's the good kids (completely oblivious that their kids were probably junkies)
Sadly, it's a reflection of power in our society. I'm guessing the Plano City Council, the Plano School Board, etc. were more personally affected (either directly with their own kids, or through relatives/neighbors/co-workers who had children caught up in the addiction) by this, which caused them to act.
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Old 08-24-2009, 08:11 PM   #27
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Note: As would be pointed out on a certain other "tennis" board, the key words in the above story are "mainly white", and in this instance, a certain member of that other message board would be 100% correct to point it out. Would they have been as concerned and acted so fast otherwise?
I think you are right to point out who was getting hooked in Plano shtexas. Unfortunately these things have to be said or else people go off on tangents. It's why I brought up the lack of national media attention about the meth problem as opposed to the crack problem.

The people I saw nodding out on the subway were people who live in East Harlem which is a Latino community. Snorting heroin has become very popular among the preppy (read white) set here in NYC as well. Some switch to mainlining as it was called back in the day when snorting isn't enough.

I guess this is my long way of saying that no, they wouldn't have acted so quickly otherwise. The soaps are even running story lines about suburban drug issues.
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Old 08-24-2009, 10:36 PM   #28
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Ivo Minar tested positive for a derivative of pseudoephedrine during the Davis Cup quarterfinals in July, report Czech press.

Details of the case are unknown but pseudoephedrine is not currently a banned substance. The stimulant, common in cold remedies, is on this year's monitoring list, which contains substances that are tracked but not prosecuted.

Minar has pulled out of New Haven and the US Open, citing injury http://www.tennis.com/news/ticker.aspx So, does it mean he will not be banned ? or the banned won't be severe.
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Old 08-24-2009, 10:42 PM   #29
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Sheesh, I'm using one for my cold now. Maybe I should hit the courts.
Have you ever been off drugs for a whole day since you've started studying medicine?
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Old 08-25-2009, 03:53 PM   #30
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NOOOOOOOOOOooooooo....

I missed this until just now.

Who is going to be my "never in a million years" favorite for the Open? Nishikori is still missing an arm or whatever, right? Now my soft, squishy, huggable-looking Ivo Minar is gone too... for cough syrup.
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