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**truck** · 03-20-2009, 03:15 PM

Think this has great potential. In a whole lot of ways. Not sure how these two feel about each other, especially after last year's USO.

Two top 10 players, two of the best on hardcourts, Nole's the defending champion here at IW, Andy's never won this event (this is, I believe the only big North American hardcourt title he has not won), but is having great success in singles and doubles here thusfar.

Lot of questions going in as well. Nole has NEVER defended a title in his career, and there are still some questions about his game this season. Andy's also had some patchy play throughout this event. On the flipside, both have taken the title in the last Tour event they played - which were on hardcourts (Nole at Dubai, Andy at Memphis).

Career H2H is 2 all, with all four matches having been played on hardcourts - and they've alternated on wins:

2009 Australian Open
Australia Hard Q Roddick 6-7(3) 6-4 6-2 2-1 RET

2008 US Open
NY, U.S.A. Hard Q Djokovic 6-2 6-3 3-6 7-6(5)

2008 Dubai
U.A.E. Hard S Roddick 7-6(5) 6-3

2007 ATP Masters Series Canada
Canada Hard Q Djokovic 7-6(4) 6-4

**Doctorpills** · 03-20-2009, 03:16 PM

Andy's got a summer cottage up in Nole's headspace after that AO. Andy in straights.

**truck** · 03-20-2009, 03:17 PM

Nole in 3. I think he's hitting his stride again. Playing Rafa will be his real test this tournament.

**zlopikanikanz** · 03-20-2009, 03:25 PM

Nole in three. Solely based on Roddick's match against Ferrer.

**kubekniekubek** · 03-20-2009, 03:27 PM

It will be tough, but this match is in the USA so I pick Andy in three. The fans may get into Nole's head.

**Flikemommoilt** · 03-20-2009, 03:44 PM

I think it's going to be a good one... Not as in exceptionally high quality but very dramatic in the sense that there will be some chokes or mini-chokes, nerves are going to factor in, and I already pity the chair umpire.

It's Nole's turn to win (they've been alternating so far), and it's not going to be exceptionally hot, so that helps Nole, too. But I'm with GVGirl... The crowd will pull Nole down and Andy up. And that will be the difference, I think, though it didn't help Andy enough at Flushing... and Nole seemed to channel negative energy well that night. Still, I think this will be a different story.

**RooxiaNof** · 03-20-2009, 03:59 PM

Novak in 2 tight sets that takes 2 hrs to play.

**Leczyslaw** · 03-20-2009, 04:08 PM

Between these two, for the first time I think that Roddick has edge going in. I just base it on Novak's and Andy's form this tournament and overall for the year.

Roddick in 3.

**soitlyobserty** · 03-20-2009, 04:11 PM

Andy in 3

**TZtrDuso** · 03-20-2009, 04:18 PM

Before I saw the third set of Roddick-Ferrer, I would not have given Andy any real chance in this match. His performance earlier in the tournament (particularly the 2nd set vs. Koellerer) was far from inspiring.

But I really liked the aggressive way Roddick closed out that R16 match. I agree the crowd could be a big factor. And I thinking playing Ferrer is pretty good preparation for facing Djokovic (both are fast and have excellent groundstrokes on both sides).

I picked Nole in 3, and I don't really know why.

**truck** · 03-20-2009, 04:21 PM

This is one of our closest WYG's in some time, I think. I could have just as easily picked Andy in 3 as Nole, I think this is a good old fashioned toss up.

My genuine hope is that the match is decided by who plays best, rather than WTA style who plays less worse.

**Injurnerona** · 03-20-2009, 04:46 PM

I picked Nole in 3 but it's a tossup. I like Andy a lot, lot better but I give nole the slight edge just because, at this point in their careers, he's a bit better.

**encunnibriG** · 03-20-2009, 05:31 PM

I picked Andy in 3. I guess it's based on how they've looked overall this year more than anything else. Neither has looked particularly inspiring in this tournament.

**paypaltoegold1** · 03-20-2009, 05:34 PM

Hopefully Andy in either 2 or 3, i went for 3! Hope it's a great match.Good luck Andy,rooting for you!

**Gometesstem** · 03-20-2009, 05:41 PM

I have Andy in predictions so I will stick with that, but it will be close either way.

**RIjdrVs3** · 03-20-2009, 06:07 PM

I'm not voting with my heart today

**Marlboro-oroblraM** · 03-20-2009, 06:12 PM

If they play up to their potential, it would easily be Nole in two. But of course we are talking about the two biggest drama queens on the ATP so there is sure to be plenty of Bravo style, passive aggressive, cat fighting during the match.

**Assauraarguck** · 03-20-2009, 06:25 PM

I'm going with Andy in 3 (especially if it's hot).

although it won't surprise me if Nole wins in 2.

**inmeirulez** · 03-20-2009, 06:46 PM

Regrettably, Novak in 2. Just 'cause he's evil.

**TZtrDuso** · 03-21-2009, 01:42 AM

I'm thrilled to have been wrong!

Was Andy playing that well, or just letting Nole miss?

03-20-2009, 03:15 PM	#1
truck Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 451 Senior Member	Andy/Novak: WHO YA GOT? Think this has great potential. In a whole lot of ways. Not sure how these two feel about each other, especially after last year's USO. Two top 10 players, two of the best on hardcourts, Nole's the defending champion here at IW, Andy's never won this event (this is, I believe the only big North American hardcourt title he has not won), but is having great success in singles and doubles here thusfar. Lot of questions going in as well. Nole has NEVER defended a title in his career, and there are still some questions about his game this season. Andy's also had some patchy play throughout this event. On the flipside, both have taken the title in the last Tour event they played - which were on hardcourts (Nole at Dubai, Andy at Memphis). Career H2H is 2 all, with all four matches having been played on hardcourts - and they've alternated on wins: 2009 Australian Open Australia Hard Q Roddick 6-7(3) 6-4 6-2 2-1 RET 2008 US Open NY, U.S.A. Hard Q Djokovic 6-2 6-3 3-6 7-6(5) 2008 Dubai U.A.E. Hard S Roddick 7-6(5) 6-3 2007 ATP Masters Series Canada Canada Hard Q Djokovic 7-6(4) 6-4 Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-20-2009, 03:16 PM	#2
Doctorpills Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 441 Senior Member	Andy's got a summer cottage up in Nole's headspace after that AO. Andy in straights. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-20-2009, 03:17 PM	#3
truck Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 451 Senior Member	Nole in 3. I think he's hitting his stride again. Playing Rafa will be his real test this tournament. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-20-2009, 03:25 PM	#4
zlopikanikanz Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 625 Senior Member	Nole in three. Solely based on Roddick's match against Ferrer. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-20-2009, 03:27 PM	#5
kubekniekubek Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 701 Senior Member	It will be tough, but this match is in the USA so I pick Andy in three. The fans may get into Nole's head. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-20-2009, 03:44 PM	#6
Flikemommoilt Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 443 Senior Member	I think it's going to be a good one... Not as in exceptionally high quality but very dramatic in the sense that there will be some chokes or mini-chokes, nerves are going to factor in, and I already pity the chair umpire. It's Nole's turn to win (they've been alternating so far), and it's not going to be exceptionally hot, so that helps Nole, too. But I'm with GVGirl... The crowd will pull Nole down and Andy up. And that will be the difference, I think, though it didn't help Andy enough at Flushing... and Nole seemed to channel negative energy well that night. Still, I think this will be a different story. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-20-2009, 03:59 PM	#7
RooxiaNof Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 552 Senior Member	Novak in 2 tight sets that takes 2 hrs to play. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-20-2009, 04:08 PM	#8
Leczyslaw Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 647 Senior Member	Between these two, for the first time I think that Roddick has edge going in. I just base it on Novak's and Andy's form this tournament and overall for the year. Roddick in 3. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-20-2009, 04:11 PM	#9
soitlyobserty Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 455 Senior Member	Andy in 3 Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-20-2009, 04:18 PM	#10
TZtrDuso Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 507 Senior Member	Before I saw the third set of Roddick-Ferrer, I would not have given Andy any real chance in this match. His performance earlier in the tournament (particularly the 2nd set vs. Koellerer) was far from inspiring. But I really liked the aggressive way Roddick closed out that R16 match. I agree the crowd could be a big factor. And I thinking playing Ferrer is pretty good preparation for facing Djokovic (both are fast and have excellent groundstrokes on both sides). I picked Nole in 3, and I don't really know why. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-20-2009, 04:21 PM	#11
truck Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 451 Senior Member	This is one of our closest WYG's in some time, I think. I could have just as easily picked Andy in 3 as Nole, I think this is a good old fashioned toss up. My genuine hope is that the match is decided by who plays best, rather than WTA style who plays less worse. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-20-2009, 04:46 PM	#12
Injurnerona Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 522 Senior Member	I picked Nole in 3 but it's a tossup. I like Andy a lot, lot better but I give nole the slight edge just because, at this point in their careers, he's a bit better. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-20-2009, 05:31 PM	#13
encunnibriG Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 461 Senior Member	I picked Andy in 3. I guess it's based on how they've looked overall this year more than anything else. Neither has looked particularly inspiring in this tournament. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-20-2009, 05:34 PM	#14
paypaltoegold1 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 519 Senior Member	Hopefully Andy in either 2 or 3, i went for 3! Hope it's a great match.Good luck Andy,rooting for you! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-20-2009, 05:41 PM	#15
Gometesstem Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 505 Senior Member	I have Andy in predictions so I will stick with that, but it will be close either way. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-20-2009, 06:07 PM	#16
RIjdrVs3 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 522 Senior Member	I'm not voting with my heart today Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-20-2009, 06:12 PM	#17
Marlboro-oroblraM Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 376 Senior Member	If they play up to their potential, it would easily be Nole in two. But of course we are talking about the two biggest drama queens on the ATP so there is sure to be plenty of Bravo style, passive aggressive, cat fighting during the match. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-20-2009, 06:25 PM	#18
Assauraarguck Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 464 Senior Member	I'm going with Andy in 3 (especially if it's hot). although it won't surprise me if Nole wins in 2. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-20-2009, 06:46 PM	#19
inmeirulez Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 489 Senior Member	Regrettably, Novak in 2. Just 'cause he's evil. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-21-2009, 01:42 AM	#20
TZtrDuso Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 507 Senior Member	I'm thrilled to have been wrong! Was Andy playing that well, or just letting Nole miss? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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