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**Nppracph** · 07-13-2008, 12:58 PM

Thanks for the info. Should be great to see

**Boveosteors** · 07-13-2008, 02:24 PM

The 8th spot can be a Wild Card and is usually awarded as such if a slam winner doesn't make top 8

The 8th spot is not a discretionary pick. The rule is

1) Selection List. The Selection List for the event shall be:
a) The top 7 players in the ATP 2008 Race as of the Monday after the last ATP
Tournament of the calendar year; followed by
b) Up to 2 Grand Slam winners of that year, in order of their positions, positioned
between 8 and 20 in the ATP 2008 Race as of that Monday; followed by
c) Players positioned 8 and below in the ATP 2008 Race as of that Monday.

**greekbeast** · 07-13-2008, 05:07 PM

The 8th spot is not a discretionary pick. The rule is

1) Selection List. The Selection List for the event shall be:
a) The top 7 players in the ATP 2008 Race as of the Monday after the last ATP
Tournament of the calendar year; followed by
b) Up to 2 Grand Slam winners of that year, in order of their positions, positioned
between 8 and 20 in the ATP 2008 Race as of that Monday; followed by
c) Players positioned 8 and below in the ATP 2008 Race as of that Monday.

Say you have two random grand slam winners, who end up ranked 15 and 16, respectively. Then the number 16 guy gets screwed by rule a (top 7) and rule b (random GS winner ranked 15)? That seems kind of odd. I wonder if they would only take the top 6 in such a case.

**bomondus** · 07-13-2008, 05:23 PM

The 8th spot is not a discretionary pick. The rule is

Thanks, 3mlm.

So, in MysterX's situation above, #16 goes in as an alternate?

**Beriilosal** · 09-07-2008, 05:25 PM

New Wimbledon champion Rafael Nadal is among a star trio announced as the first qualifiers for the 2008 Tennis Masters Cup. The Spaniard will join four-time champion Roger Federer of Switzerland, whom he beat in an epic Wimbledon final, and Serbian Novak Djokovic at the prestigious circuit finale, to be held for the fourth year at Shanghai’s Qi Zhong Stadium from November 9-16....

Nestor/Zimonjic and the Bryans are the first two doubles teams to qualify also.

Full story: http://www.masters-cup.com/1/news/2008/bigthree.asp

**indianstory** · 09-07-2008, 05:25 PM

And it's only July 9. Yup, they're just a little further ahead of the pack...

**Beriilosal** · 09-07-2008, 05:28 PM

Amazing that three players are that far ahead of the rest of the ATP that their tickets are allready punched.

Davy and Daveed are probably close to a lock looking at race points. But there's a lot of room between 6 and 11 for someone to start making a move. And there's only 100 race points seperating #8 from #25, so a solid hardcourt performance could boost a lot of player's chances of getting in.

**Roorseprate** · 09-07-2008, 05:28 PM

Looky, it's on the TAT homepage among the headlines.

http://www.talkabouttennis.com/conte...try.php?e=8154

**indianstory** · 09-07-2008, 05:34 PM

Amazing that three players are that far ahead of the rest of the ATP that their tickets are allready punched.

Davy and Daveed are probably close to a lock looking at race points. But there's a lot of room between 6 and 11 for someone to start making a move. And there's only 100 race points seperating #8 from #25, so a solid hardcourt performance could boost a lot of player's chances of getting in.

Something tells me it'll be another 11th hour free for all. I actually love that.

**seodiary** · 09-07-2008, 06:55 PM

Something tells me it'll be another 11th hour free for all. I actually love that.

I think the late season Masters Series events in Paris and Madrid love that most of all ...

**Lorionasodi** · 09-07-2008, 07:42 PM

And it's only July 9. Yup, they're just a little further ahead of the pack...

I agree they're well ahead of the pack but I believe Nole and Rafa qualify automatically for winning slams, right? I remember a few years back when Gaudio made it to the final 8 for winning Roland Garros even though he wouldn't have made it otherwise.

**bomondus** · 09-07-2008, 07:45 PM

I agree they're well ahead of the pack but I believe Nole and Rafa qualify automatically for winning slams, right? I remember a few years back when Gaudio made it to the final 8 for winning Roland Garros even though he wouldn't have made it otherwise.

The 8th spot can be a Wild Card and is usually awarded as such if a slam winner doesn't make top 8

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Boveosteors Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 374 Senior Member	The 8th spot can be a Wild Card and is usually awarded as such if a slam winner doesn't make top 8 The 8th spot is not a discretionary pick. The rule is 1) Selection List. The Selection List for the event shall be: a) The top 7 players in the ATP 2008 Race as of the Monday after the last ATP Tournament of the calendar year; followed by b) Up to 2 Grand Slam winners of that year, in order of their positions, positioned between 8 and 20 in the ATP 2008 Race as of that Monday; followed by c) Players positioned 8 and below in the ATP 2008 Race as of that Monday. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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greekbeast Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 431 Senior Member	The 8th spot is not a discretionary pick. The rule is 1) Selection List. The Selection List for the event shall be: a) The top 7 players in the ATP 2008 Race as of the Monday after the last ATP Tournament of the calendar year; followed by b) Up to 2 Grand Slam winners of that year, in order of their positions, positioned between 8 and 20 in the ATP 2008 Race as of that Monday; followed by c) Players positioned 8 and below in the ATP 2008 Race as of that Monday. Say you have two random grand slam winners, who end up ranked 15 and 16, respectively. Then the number 16 guy gets screwed by rule a (top 7) and rule b (random GS winner ranked 15)? That seems kind of odd. I wonder if they would only take the top 6 in such a case. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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bomondus Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 457 Senior Member	The 8th spot is not a discretionary pick. The rule is Thanks, 3mlm. So, in MysterX's situation above, #16 goes in as an alternate? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Beriilosal Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 468 Senior Member	Rafa, Fed, Nole Qualify For Shanghai New Wimbledon champion Rafael Nadal is among a star trio announced as the first qualifiers for the 2008 Tennis Masters Cup. The Spaniard will join four-time champion Roger Federer of Switzerland, whom he beat in an epic Wimbledon final, and Serbian Novak Djokovic at the prestigious circuit finale, to be held for the fourth year at Shanghai’s Qi Zhong Stadium from November 9-16.... Nestor/Zimonjic and the Bryans are the first two doubles teams to qualify also. Full story: http://www.masters-cup.com/1/news/2008/bigthree.asp Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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indianstory Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 532 Senior Member	And it's only July 9. Yup, they're just a little further ahead of the pack... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-07-2008, 05:28 PM	#7
Beriilosal Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 468 Senior Member	Amazing that three players are that far ahead of the rest of the ATP that their tickets are allready punched. Davy and Daveed are probably close to a lock looking at race points. But there's a lot of room between 6 and 11 for someone to start making a move. And there's only 100 race points seperating #8 from #25, so a solid hardcourt performance could boost a lot of player's chances of getting in. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Roorseprate Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 659 Senior Member	Looky, it's on the TAT homepage among the headlines. http://www.talkabouttennis.com/conte...try.php?e=8154 Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-07-2008, 05:34 PM	#9
indianstory Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 532 Senior Member	Amazing that three players are that far ahead of the rest of the ATP that their tickets are allready punched. Davy and Daveed are probably close to a lock looking at race points. But there's a lot of room between 6 and 11 for someone to start making a move. And there's only 100 race points seperating #8 from #25, so a solid hardcourt performance could boost a lot of player's chances of getting in. Something tells me it'll be another 11th hour free for all. I actually love that. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-07-2008, 06:55 PM	#10
seodiary Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 488 Senior Member	Something tells me it'll be another 11th hour free for all. I actually love that. I think the late season Masters Series events in Paris and Madrid love that most of all ... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-07-2008, 07:42 PM	#11
Lorionasodi Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 480 Senior Member	And it's only July 9. Yup, they're just a little further ahead of the pack... I agree they're well ahead of the pack but I believe Nole and Rafa qualify automatically for winning slams, right? I remember a few years back when Gaudio made it to the final 8 for winning Roland Garros even though he wouldn't have made it otherwise. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-07-2008, 07:45 PM	#12
bomondus Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 457 Senior Member	I agree they're well ahead of the pack but I believe Nole and Rafa qualify automatically for winning slams, right? I remember a few years back when Gaudio made it to the final 8 for winning Roland Garros even though he wouldn't have made it otherwise. The 8th spot can be a Wild Card and is usually awarded as such if a slam winner doesn't make top 8 Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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