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Old 09-19-2008, 01:09 AM   #1
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Default The Rape Jihad
As you can see by this article, written by a Shariah Judge from Pakistan- the Shariah punishment for rape is death to the man who commits it according to sahih hadiths. And that does not require four witnesses as does murder or adultry. However, this judge is complaining, both about the actions of the police and of the courts.

It is easy to see where this can lead. In the days before the Hudood Ordinance when adultery was not a crime, rape criminals used to adopt the line that what they did was with the free will of the woman. So if the court suspected the woman's connivance it would dismiss the case and free the accused. The Hudood Ordinance did not allow this line of defense because adultery was declared a crime even if it was done with the woman's free will. And the court that was hearing the case of rape could also award him the ta’zeer punishment. (At the same time, the woman could not be punished as mentioned earlier.) This new amendment has restored the situation wherein if a man accused of rape succeeds in creating doubts about the woman’s being forced then no one will be able to bring him to justice.


http://www.albalagh.net/women/0096.shtml

I'm posting this only for the benefit of someone who wants to research what Islam really says about rape as opposed to what is often practiced in Pakistan or what a crusader [by medieval definition] like Spenser says. It would not surprise me if the judge was killed for upholding Islam, such has become the perversion of that part of the world.
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Old 09-30-2008, 12:35 PM   #2
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I'm posting this only for the benefit of someone who wants to research what Islam really says about rape as opposed to what is often practiced in Pakistan or what a crusader [by medieval definition] like Spenser says. It would not surprise me if the judge was killed for upholding Islam, such has become the perversion of that part of the world. The key to staying focused on this issue is to define rape & nikah.
Secondly, other Abrahamic religions may have similar passages in their scripture.

But didn't Islam come to be "the best" of them all?
I mean, what was Islam's innovation? To amplify the inhumane teachings of the previous religions?

Another point. IF we are seeing (today) any similar systematic religious inspiration in other religions, they are already being condemned and criticise.

Therefore, it wouldn't be sensible to use the "they did it too" tactic.
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Old 09-30-2008, 01:32 PM   #3
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Why is nikah used in the Quran and not the more common Arabic name for marriage (zawag)? Nikah has some vulgar meanings...
Because nikah is not the equivalent of marriage (Isdewaj). Although you find usage of nikah to mean marriage, both historical and the contextual meaning of nikah in Quran refer to sexual intercourse. Ask any knowledgeable, honest and non-muslim Arab, and they'll most likely tell you the same think.

Muslims tend to present Quran as a very complex piece of literature, as if only few people can understand it.
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Old 09-30-2008, 09:46 PM   #4
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Old 10-01-2008, 12:58 AM   #5
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Exactly, how do you criticize child rape while at the same time condoning the child raping mohammad and calling him a "perfect" man?
What is your source for saying she was raped? Aisha resembles a rape victim in no way. Rape is not a crime of passion, but a crime of hatred. What evidence do you have that the Prophet hated Aisha? Rape is a crime that puts shame upon the victim, both to the victim and in the way (sadly) the community treats the victim. Do you have any evidence of Aisha having been ashamed of her marriage or having been shamed within the community or within her family? Rape victims hate their attackers. Do you have any evidence that Aisha hated Muhammad (SAW) or that he hated her or that their marriage was anything other than happy? No parent would volunteer to have their daughter raped, yet to believe your version, Aisha's parents did precisely that. Do you have any evidence that her parents weren't OK with the marriage?

No you don't! So in order to maintain your story, you've got to willfully leave out huge sections of the story, that some scholars don't agree on her age at marriage, that the marriage happened with the consent of the parents and that Aisha spent the rest of her life and indeed the past 14 centuries known as a scholar and a highly respected person in the community. She spent the rest of her life adoring and lavishing praise upon her so-called attacker. You've got to run hoops to explain the contradiction, but there is a simple explanation to it all. SHE WASN'T RAPED, and Muslims do not think of Muhammad (SAW) as a rapist.
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