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Old 08-08-2008, 08:33 PM   #1
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Default Is all OK in the UK?
Tour brochures???
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Old 08-18-2008, 06:41 PM   #2
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It sounds like just a little bit more than the usual ASBO.
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Old 08-20-2008, 01:30 AM   #3
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Why would they do that, considering that Prince Charles is such of fan of the Muslims? After all, Britain will become an Islamic state within the next 30 years, according to all reports. Why would they want to upset the camel cart?
All reports. Pray tell what reports?
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Old 08-22-2008, 05:28 AM   #4
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That guy in the video is a Muslim. You advised me not to believe what Muslims say. But this idiot has declared that his religion will conquer the world and because it fits your agenda I should now believe him.

There are countless other affirmations of this but I won't waste my time
posting them because it's apparent you think Muslims can do no wrong.


Why would I think Muslims can do no wrong?

This is America, there are no laws against ignorance.

Well there's something we can both celebrate then.
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Old 09-08-2008, 12:07 PM   #5
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Was it definitely a training camp? The article refers to it as an alleged training base and there must be plenty of locations over there where you can fire off a few rounds or have a go on a RPG for a few bucks.
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Old 09-08-2008, 03:43 PM   #6
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At 16, Britain's youngest ever terrorist found guilty
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ives-home.html

By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 5:20 PM on 18th August 2008

Britain's youngest terrorist was behind bars today after a guide to death and explosives was found in the schoolboy's home.

Hammaad Munshi, just 16 and taking GCSEs when arrested, was part of a cell of cyber groomers that set out to brainwash the vulnerable to kill 'non-believers'.

For nearly a year the teenager, whose grandfather is a leading Islamic scholar, led a double life.

By day he attended lessons at the local comprehensive and did as he was told, but in the evening he spent hours surfing jihadist sites and distributing material to others as part of what the Crown branded a 'worldwide conspiracy' to 'wipe out' non-Muslims.

London's Blackfriars Crown Court heard it contained detailed instructions about making napalm, other high explosives, detonators, and grenades, and 'how to kill'.

He was 15 when recruited by Aabid Khan, 23, a 'key player' in radicalising the impressionable and vulnerable here and abroad with his message of 'violent jihad'.

They lived 10 miles apart, phoned each other during 2005 and 2006, and swapped documents about 'black powder explosives'.

Khan wanted to fulfil the teenager's wish to go abroad and 'fight jihad', and during one internet exchange discussed how the schoolboy might smuggle a sword through airport security.

The Dewsbury-born teenager was detained a day after Khan as he and friends returned from local Westborough High School.

The IT whizz-kid - whose online Arabic profile 'fidadee' means a 'person ready to sacrifice themselves for a particular cause' - ran a website selling hunting knives and Islamic flags and was the cell's computer specialist.

Two bags of ball-bearings - the shrapnel of choice for suicide bombers - were found in one of his pockets.

On his PC were al Qaida propaganda videos and recordings promoting 'murder and destruction'.

The teenager, whose grandfather is Sheikh Yakub Munshi, president of the Islamic Research Institute of Great Britain at the Markazi Mosque, Dewsbury, also stored notes on martyrdom under his bed.

'One who is not taking part in the battle nor has the sheer intention to die is in the branch of hypocrisy,' they read.


'I don't want to be a person like it has been mentioned about, I don't want to be deprived of the huge amounts or lessons Allah has prepared for the believers in the hereafter.'

Khan, the schoolboy's mentor, had links with proscribed terrorist organisations Jaishe-Mohammed and Lashkar-e-Tayyaba, and helped radicalise jailed 'wannabe suicide bomber' Mohammed Atif Siddique.

Khan was returning from Pakistan - possibly after terror camp training - when detained.

The 'routine stop' at Manchester Airport on June 6 2006 yielded the largest cyber 'encyclopaedia' of articles promoting terrorism seized by police.

It included personal information, including addresses, of various members of the Royal Family.

Among them were the Queen, the Duke of Edinburgh, the Prince of Wales, the Duke of York, the Princess Royal, and the Earl and Countess of Wessex.

There was also a guide to killing non-Muslims, and discussions about setting up a secret Islamic state in a remote area of Scotland.

Also found were US and Canadian military training manuals, a Terrorist's Handbook, a Mujahideen Explosives Handbook, and a Mujahideen Poisons Handbook containing a recipe for ricin and encouragement for 'brothers' to experiment on 'kuffar' (non-believers).


Sketches of combat suits, which he dismissed as 'ghetto clothing but with an Islamic theme', were in his Filofax.

Bradford-born Khan - 'Del Boy' to his contacts - ran At-Tibiyan Publications, an 'online extremist support network'.

In one exchange he spoke of finding a 'big target and taking it out... like a military base in the UK. Praise be to Allah.

'Our group is growing. We need to plan better and adapt. Now a few more people are showing interest. We need to confirm and encourage... I want to have a group of at least 12.'

Another exchange read: 'What I want to do is cause trouble for the kuffar with hit-and-runs everywhere, cause fear and panic in their countries, make them nervous so they make mistakes.'

Operation Praline, headed by Leeds Counter-Terrorism Unit, examined a huge number of files from hard-drives and DVDs in Khan's suitcase, and identified two fellow 'jihadists'.

Post officer night sorter Sultan Muhammad, 23, was Khan's cousin and 'right-hand man'.

They regularly chatted about killing non-believers and buying the explosives component acetone.

He fled to London after Khan's arrest and was arrested two weeks later near a safe house.

Khan, who admitted being interested in jihad at 12, insisted he was in Pakistan selling mobiles and visiting earthquake victims and claimed the material police found resulted from 'hoarding and curiosity'.

Munshi did not give evidence, but used his barrister to also argue 'curiosity'.

Muhammad remained in the dock as well, suggesting through counsel the computer files belonged to others.

But the seven-woman, four-man man jury which spent six days considering the evidence, convicted them of eight Terrorism Act offences committed between November 23 2005, and June 20 2006.

Three accused Khan, of Otley Road, Undercliffe, Bradford, West Yorkshire, of possessing articles for a purpose connected with terrorism. He was cleared of a similar count.

Muhammad, of nearby Hanover Square, Manningham, was found guilty of three similar charges and one of making a record of information likely to be useful in terrorism.

Munshi, now 18, from Greenwood Street, Saville Town, Dewsbury, was found guilty of a making offence but not guilty of a possession offence.

A fourth defendant, Ahmed Sulieman, 30, from south London, was cleared of three possession allegations after explaining the files found belonged to somebody else.

Judge Timothy Pontius told an impassive Khan and Muhammad they would remain in custody until tomorrow when he would pass sentence.

Turning to an equally unemotional Munshi, the judge said although he had been on bail he, too, would now be remanded in custody.

But unlike the others, he would be dealt with at the Old Bailey on September 19 after the preparation of a pre-sentence report.

'It is very much in your interests therefore to cooperate with the probation officer who comes to interview you, but you must be very realistic about the seriousness of your position.

'It is inevitable, in my view, as things stand and subject to anything that might be said on your behalf, that a custodial sentence will follow,' he added.

After the case Detective Chief Superintendent John Parkinson, head of Leeds Counter Terrorism Unit, said: 'Let there be no doubt, these are dangerous individuals. These men were not simply in possession of material which expressed extremist views.

'They were also in possession of material that was operationally useful to anyone wishing to carry out an act of violence or terrorism.

'While these men may not have been actively planning acts of terrorism themselves, they sought to insight others for terrorist purposes, promoting al Qaida ideology and training programmes.

'In many respects, Khan, Muhammad, and Munshi were "facilitators". They had the knowledge required to orchestrate terrorist acts and they willingly shared that expertise with others.

'These are not the actions of curious individuals, or even those who are sympathetic to terrorist objectives. They are the actions of people who pose a very real threat to our communities.'
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