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04-05-2011, 04:24 PM | #21 |
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False dichotomy. Many of those who doubt that bin Laden was killed a few days ago think that he has been dead for a long time. Anyway, my statement still stands. Just replace "The amount of people who don't think Osama is dead..." with "The amount of people who think Osama was killed a long time ago..." and carry on. |
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04-05-2011, 04:34 PM | #22 |
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LOL, "false dichotomy" (I don't think this means what you think it means). |
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04-05-2011, 04:52 PM | #23 |
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You portrayed the controversy as being between those who believe the official story and those who don't believe the official story and instead think that bin Laden is still alive. There is a third group: those who don't believe the official story and instead think that bin Laden died a long time ago. Even if I unintentionally offered a false dichotomy (which there wasn't one), my point does not hinge on there only being two categories of people, so it doesn't make any sort of difference either way. Throw four or five more categories of people in there, and my point remains the same. Which further makes your accusations of a false dichotomy seem pretty odd. |
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04-05-2011, 04:57 PM | #24 |
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04-05-2011, 05:33 PM | #25 |
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04-05-2011, 05:50 PM | #26 |
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Releasing photos, video, tissue samples of the corpse will not accomplish anything useful.
The Birthers are not convinced, the Flat Earthers are not convinced, the deniers of Climate Change caused by human intervention are not convinced. The fanatic jihadists, with some religious support, have centuries of practice of not being convinced by any "outside" influences. This morbid fascination with bin Laden's death is just that - morbid fascination. Nothing good would come of satisfying this unnatural lust. |
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04-05-2011, 06:03 PM | #27 |
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04-05-2011, 06:10 PM | #28 |
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Releasing the news of Osama's death with inaccurate details is a result of the "fog of war". I don't know if any of you have ever read the battlefield reports from different participants, but they all differ in some ways. Nothing is to be gained in lying, just a careful review of all the reports and tapes revealed discrepancies which will be sorted out and corrected. Given the current state of GOP relations, the already fingerpointing and history remaking going on, I don't see an upside for the administration to release these tapes and pics at this time, ethically or politically. There is also the point that proprietary info could be gleaned from our enemies as to our tactics and equipment.
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04-05-2011, 06:19 PM | #29 |
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Although I would love to see the pictures. We all should take into account, the release of those pictures could cause a very adverse effects to innocent people, our soldiers, and whoever else. (obviously I'm speculating) Since we only know what we get to see and hear on the news we must consider the unknown variables that our military and cia know.
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04-05-2011, 06:43 PM | #30 |
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Didn't they learn anything from the birth certificate fiasco? Its not the data that creates the conspiracy theories, its the cover up. |
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04-05-2011, 06:55 PM | #31 |
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Mentally ill? Not usually. With their head up their . . .let me rephrase that . . .up Limbaugh, Coulter, O'Reilly, and Palin's A . .? |
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04-05-2011, 07:54 PM | #32 |
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Well, according to reports that I've heard, UBL got shot in the chest and in the face just above the left eye so there is likely to be alot of his head missing.
Perhaps the bionic man, Dick Cheney (AKA Darth Vader), is now on SEAL team six???? My vote is don't officially relaease it yet. Wait for it to be leaked. |
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04-05-2011, 07:54 PM | #33 |
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Sure they learned something. They learned that they'll release plenty of photo evidence to prove without a doubt that Osama was the one killed, but then people will start demanding that they release hair samples, fingernail clippings, clothing, dental records, and Osama's long form death certificate...Then one day they'll get tired...(and) finally release what these people demand and then Donald Trump will take credit for it. What I'd appreciate from the President is the release of one autopsy head shot, in black and white, showing only the uninjured parts of Osama's face, death shot details whited out. That would allow everyone with doubts to decide if it's really him and if he's really dead. Obviously, those in al Quaida who were in contact with BL already know if he's still around or not. |
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04-05-2011, 08:35 PM | #34 |
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I did kind of expect something on the internet- TRUMP "I'm the one who found Bin Laden" After my investigators left Hawaii, they went on to Pakistan and discovered a private compound outside of Islamabad...etc. |
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04-05-2011, 08:40 PM | #35 |
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I did kind of expect something on the internet- TRUMP "I'm the one who found Bin Laden" After my investigators left Hawaii, they went on to Pakistan and discovered a private compound outside of Islamabad...etc. |
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04-05-2011, 08:42 PM | #36 |
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Reflecting on this adds an interesting twist to the discussion. Barack Obama to release up to 2,000 photographs of prisoner abuse - Telegraph
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04-05-2011, 09:33 PM | #37 |
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A lot of talk about this was interested in how the board felt about it Leon Penetta--stated yesterday that the release of this picture was "imminent"--I would suppose because he realises how important it is for Middle Easterners to see a dead Bin Laden. They already believe him to be dead--so not releasing these pictures--only puts a conspiracy theory in their minds that he may still be alive--not good. |
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04-05-2011, 09:37 PM | #38 |
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Based upon the birther, truther, Elvis, and Jim Morrison stories floating around with sizable followings, nothing will convince everyone obl is dead. I doubt that obl's head on a pole in the front yard of the White House would do it; a few photos won't even make a blip on the radar. Middle Eastern leaders have requested that these photos are released just so that it stops the trouble-makers in their countries--from imortalizing him. This is a BIG mistake on Obama's part. |
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04-05-2011, 09:42 PM | #39 |
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Reflecting on this adds an interesting twist to the discussion. Barack Obama to release up to 2,000 photographs of prisoner abuse - Telegraph |
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