[mobbemeatiedy]

The Palestinians, Arab nations as well as the nations of the world should recognize the terrorist Jewish State of Israel. The acts of Israeli Jewish terror against the indigenous Palestinian population for over sixty years has been very well documented, but it has not been heard and understood by Americans people. The true story is more understood by the American Jewish community that divided into two major camps as are the Israelis people. One side unconditionally supports the official Israeli government position for the Greater Israeli Jewish State plan and the other side question many of the Israeli government actions and policies toward the Palestinian and Arab people.

If there is a place that is a man made hell on earth it would be Gaza. The Israeli government will be the first to tell you that they pulled their troops and settlers out of Gaza in 2005. They won’t tell you that they have nearly a million and half Palestinian people caged in, almost totally cut off from the outside world. The Israeli Defense Forces have destroyed thousands of Palestinian people’s homes while stopping tons of foreign humanitarian aid reaching the Palestinian people. The Israelis control almost all of the electricity, fresh water, border trade, and seaports of the people in Gaza and the same holds true to the Palestinian people in the West Bank. The Palestinian people are cut off from seeing their family members and Holy sites in Jerusalem and other places.

The long recorded pattern of abuse and torment in a collected fashion against the Palestinian people has gone on far too long by the Israelis. The State of Israel by design is a Jewish State with little to no room for anyone else with the Israeli government owning and controlling 93% of the land for Jewish use only. Over the years the Israeli government’s actions and policies have created a lot of hatred and animosities in the Palestinian and Arab world that is over flowing into the rest of the world. It is the disposition-al use of military force by the Israelis, who are unconditionally supported by the United States government and Jewish main street institutions that outrages those people who are really informed to the true realities on the ground.

The Israeli government calls it a fence while the vast majority of the world sees it as a wall. It is only the United States government and American Christian people who are blinded by the Israeli lies. It is the double standard that the United States and State of Israel maintain that has divided the world into us verses them. Putting both nations in a no win situation over the course of time.

[casinobonuscxz]

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[littlePen]

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[acneman]

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[sbrpkkl]

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[SkapySisy]

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[scemHeish]

The Palestinians, Arab nations as well as the nations of the world should recognize the terrorist Jewish State of Israel. The acts of Israeli Jewish terror against the indigenous Palestinian population for over sixty years has been very well documented, but it has not been heard and understood by Americans people. The true story is more understood by the American Jewish community that divided into two major camps as are the Israelis people. One side unconditionally supports the official Israeli government position for the Greater Israeli Jewish State plan and the other side question many of the Israeli government actions and policies toward the Palestinian and Arab people.

If there is a place that is a man made hell on earth it would be Gaza. The Israeli government will be the first to tell you that they pulled their troops and settlers out of Gaza in 2005. They won’t tell you that they have nearly a million and half Palestinian people caged in, almost totally cut off from the outside world. The Israeli Defense Forces have destroyed thousands of Palestinian people’s homes while stopping tons of foreign humanitarian aid reaching the Palestinian people. The Israelis control almost all of the electricity, fresh water, border trade, and seaports of the people in Gaza and the same holds true to the Palestinian people in the West Bank. The Palestinian people are cut off from seeing their family members and Holy sites in Jerusalem and other places.

The long recorded pattern of abuse and torment in a collected fashion against the Palestinian people has gone on far too long by the Israelis. The State of Israel by design is a Jewish State with little to no room for anyone else with the Israeli government owning and controlling 93% of the land for Jewish use only. Over the years the Israeli government’s actions and policies have created a lot of hatred and animosities in the Palestinian and Arab world that is over flowing into the rest of the world. It is the disposition-al use of military force by the Israelis, who are unconditionally supported by the United States government and Jewish main street institutions that outrages those people who are really informed to the true realities on the ground.

The Israeli government calls it a fence while the vast majority of the world sees it as a wall. It is only the United States government and American Christian people who are blinded by the Israeli lies. It is the double standard that the United States and State of Israel maintain that has divided the world into us verses them. Putting both nations in a no win situation over the course of time.

Who pissed on your bagel w/cream cheese and lox?

[GECEDEANY]

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Ah yes, I forgot the in the Special Olympics, everyone gets a medal.

Congrats on your bronze.

[casinobonuscxz]

The Palestinians, Arab nations as well as the nations of the world should recognize the terrorist Jewish State of Israel. The acts of Israeli Jewish terror against the indigenous Palestinian population for over sixty years has been very well documented, but it has not been heard and understood by Americans people. The true story is more understood by the American Jewish community that divided into two major camps as are the Israelis people. One side unconditionally supports the official Israeli government position for the Greater Israeli Jewish State plan and the other side question many of the Israeli government actions and policies toward the Palestinian and Arab people.

If there is a place that is a man made hell on earth it would be Gaza. The Israeli government will be the first to tell you that they pulled their troops and settlers out of Gaza in 2005. They won’t tell you that they have nearly a million and half Palestinian people caged in, almost totally cut off from the outside world. The Israeli Defense Forces have destroyed thousands of Palestinian people’s homes while stopping tons of foreign humanitarian aid reaching the Palestinian people. The Israelis control almost all of the electricity, fresh water, border trade, and seaports of the people in Gaza and the same holds true to the Palestinian people in the West Bank. The Palestinian people are cut off from seeing their family members and Holy sites in Jerusalem and other places.

The long recorded pattern of abuse and torment in a collected fashion against the Palestinian people has gone on far too long by the Israelis. The State of Israel by design is a Jewish State with little to no room for anyone else with the Israeli government owning and controlling 93% of the land for Jewish use only. Over the years the Israeli government’s actions and policies have created a lot of hatred and animosities in the Palestinian and Arab world that is over flowing into the rest of the world. It is the disposition-al use of military force by the Israelis, who are unconditionally supported by the United States government and Jewish main street institutions that outrages those people who are really informed to the true realities on the ground.

The Israeli government calls it a fence while the vast majority of the world sees it as a wall. It is only the United States government and American Christian people who are blinded by the Israeli lies. It is the double standard that the United States and State of Israel maintain that has divided the world into us verses them. Putting both nations in a no win situation over the course of time.

Maybe you should read this very short article from the Jerusalem Post. It actually explains it quite precise. :

Our exclusive right to self-defense | Columnists | Jerusalem Post


Jen

[carfAball]

Larry Derfner is an idiot, and isn't likely to ever be cured of it.

[rolex-buy]

Larry Derfner is an idiot, and isn't likely to ever be cured of it.

I`m sure you will have no problem debunking all the "nonsence" he writes, then. Will you ?


Jen

[FateHostera]

I wouldn't have any trouble at all, but I don't spend a lot of time debunking UFO sightings, Reptilian Shapeshifter conspiracy theories, 9/11 conspiracy theories, or Elvis Sightings, either. I've also read Derfner's stuff, and he's obviously a flake, and not even an interesting one, as anybody who can do searches can find out for themselves.

My theory is he's a right wing plant whose job is to make the faux 'Peace Left' look like complete idiots, as if they need help in that; he serves the same purpose there as some posters here do. Other examples of modern COINTELPRO type operations include Cynthia McKinney, Noam Chomsky, Obama, to name three; none of them are that stupid in real life.

[usaneisfiecup]

The Palestinians, Arab nations as well as the nations of the world should recognize the terrorist Jewish State of Israel. The acts of Israeli Jewish terror against the indigenous Palestinian population for over sixty years has been very well documented, but it has not been heard and understood by Americans people. The true story is more understood by the American Jewish community that divided into two major camps as are the Israelis people. One side unconditionally supports the official Israeli government position for the Greater Israeli Jewish State plan and the other side question many of the Israeli government actions and policies toward the Palestinian and Arab people.

If there is a place that is a man made hell on earth it would be Gaza. The Israeli government will be the first to tell you that they pulled their troops and settlers out of Gaza in 2005. They won’t tell you that they have nearly a million and half Palestinian people caged in, almost totally cut off from the outside world. The Israeli Defense Forces have destroyed thousands of Palestinian people’s homes while stopping tons of foreign humanitarian aid reaching the Palestinian people. The Israelis control almost all of the electricity, fresh water, border trade, and seaports of the people in Gaza and the same holds true to the Palestinian people in the West Bank. The Palestinian people are cut off from seeing their family members and Holy sites in Jerusalem and other places.

The long recorded pattern of abuse and torment in a collected fashion against the Palestinian people has gone on far too long by the Israelis. The State of Israel by design is a Jewish State with little to no room for anyone else with the Israeli government owning and controlling 93% of the land for Jewish use only. Over the years the Israeli government’s actions and policies have created a lot of hatred and animosities in the Palestinian and Arab world that is over flowing into the rest of the world. It is the disposition-al use of military force by the Israelis, who are unconditionally supported by the United States government and Jewish main street institutions that outrages those people who are really informed to the true realities on the ground.

The Israeli government calls it a fence while the vast majority of the world sees it as a wall. It is only the United States government and American Christian people who are blinded by the Israeli lies. It is the double standard that the United States and State of Israel maintain that has divided the world into us verses them. Putting both nations in a no win situation over the course of time.

Thanks for the heads up.

[gkihueonhjh]

I wouldn't have any trouble at all, but I don't spend a lot of time debunking UFO sightings, Reptilian Shapeshifter conspiracy theories, 9/11 conspiracy theories, or Elvis Sightings, either. I've also read Derfner's stuff, and he's obviously a flake, and not even an interesting one, as anybody who can do searches can find out for themselves.

My theory is he's a right wing plant whose job is to make the faux 'Peace Left' look like complete idiots, as if they need help in that; he serves the same purpose there as some posters here do. Other examples of modern COINTELPRO type operations include Cynthia McKinney, Noam Chomsky, Obama, to name three; none of them are that stupid in real life.

Picaro,

Answer this: Should Israel move out of illegally held land in the West bank? What right do you think they have to that land?

[lisualsethelp]

Picaro,

Answer this: Should Israel move out of illegally held land in the West bank? What right do you think they have to that land?

They aren't holding any land illegally, so you have no real point here. They have same rights to settle there as Arabs do. Did Jordan have a right to settle it's citizens on land they occupied illegally from 1948 to 1967? How about the illegal Egyptian settlers in Gaza that are still there? How about all the illegal Syrian Arab settlers squatting there?

See UN Resolutions 181 and 183. See also the Geneva Convention clauses on settling conquered territories.

Jews were living in all but two districts of the West Bank long before Israel was forced to become a Jewish state, and they also had to take in hundreds of thousands of Jews from the rest of the Arab states, most thousands of miles away from Palestine and had no reasons at all for hating Israel other than venal bigotry and genocidal sociopathy.

Do you support the 'ethnic cleansing' by the Arab League in the West Bank, Gaza, and Jerusalem, as well as in almost every Arab and some Muslim nations, and think it was legal?

[primaveraloler]

Greetings and Felicitations,

Larry Derfner is an idiot, and isn't likely to ever be cured of it.

I read the article. He makes one point that is poignant. According to him Israel attacking Palestinians is self-defense but when they fight back its terrorism.

In his own words:

Here is our idea of the "laws of war": When Israeli bulldozers rolled across the border into Gazan villages and flattened house after house so Hamas wouldn't have them for cover after the IDF pulled out, that was self-defense. But if a Palestinian boy who'd lived in one of those houses threw a stone at one of the bulldozers, that was terrorism. As long as a significant portion of the Israeli people feel this way peace will be difficult. At the same time the Palestinians keep crying about retaliation for attacks made by Israel. Fortunately there are some changes going on in the way Israel is handling the West Bank. Lets just hope it holds as they change generals.

Israel Tries Less-Disruptive Tactics in West Bank - WSJ.com

Sincerely Yours,
C. David Neely

[NickGrass]

But if a Palestinian boy who'd lived in one of those houses threw a stone at one of the bulldozers, that was terrorism. That's is very 'poignant' imagery, indeed; too bad it's also farcial hyperbole and hubris. If you ever get a chance to be subjected to a mob of teenagers throwing rocks, you'll quickly find it is hardly 'harmless kid stuff' and it is certainly isn't 'self defense'.

As long as a significant portion of the Israeli people feel this way peace will be difficult. At the same time the Palestinians keep crying about retaliation for attacks made by Israel. Fortunately there are some changes going on in the way Israel is handling the West Bank. Lets just hope it holds as they change generals. It is up to the Arabs to want peace; Israel has abided by every treaty and cease fire, agreed to recognizing a Palestinian state numerous times. The Arabs have rejected every single offer for peace, so yes, Israelis have every right to move on. The biggest move toward peace would be for the UN to stop rewarding terrorism and extortion by subsidizing the PA and Hamas, and force the Arab countries to take care of their problem; they've done a very good job of convincing people that they are Israel's problem, when in fact they aren't; the 'Palestians' have managed to make a very good living off of the UN for doing little or nothing but attacking Israelis and getting payoffs from the Europeans to not hijack airliners and bomb cafes in Europe, but never mind the facts, memes trump them these days.

Another great move would be to force Arab nations to allow 'Palestinians' to immigrate, in many cases back to the countries they came from in the first place; not many people ever seem to complain about how Kuwait, Syria, and every other Arab nation discriminates against and abuses 'Palestinians', though; they just like to snivel about The Jews, and will do so at every turn, no matter what Israel gives up or how much land they surrender.

[Uttephabeta]

Greetings and Felicitations,

That's is very 'poignant' imagery, indeed; too bad it's also farcial hyperbole and hubris. If you ever get a chance to be subjected to a mob of teenagers throwing rocks, you'll quickly find it is hardly 'harmless' and it is certainly isn't 'self defense'.

Running over someone's house with bulldozers, supported by tanks and people with machine guns, while they are still living there is what exactly.

Sincerely Yours,
C. David Neely

[viagra_generic]

Greetings and Felicitations,



Running over someone's house with bulldozers, supported by tanks and people with machine guns, while they are still living there is what exactly.

Sincerely Yours,
C. David Neely

A clue that you should not let your house be used as a terrorist attack base; it is also a common feature of Arab, and Islamic, justice all over the ME, not just by Israelis, so they have no snivel there, either, other than the usual 'The Jews Did It!', Jews being second and third class citizens under Islamic Law, and therefore offensive no matter what they do.

[Yswxomvy]

A clue that you should not let your house be used as a terrorist attack base; it is also a common feature of Arab, and Islamic, justice all over the ME, not just by Israelis, so they have no snivel there, either, other than the usual 'The Jews Did It!', Jews being second and third class citizens under Islamic Law, and therefore offensive no matter what they do.

Erm, can I stop you right there. As a Muslim, I have heard these excuses over and over and over, frankly its tiring. Also, you should not take pride in ignorance, because what you are saying above is a pure misconception.

Islamic Law, has never said that Jews or Christians are second or third class. Infact Islam considers them The People of the Book. Muslims are allowed to marry from People of the Book, we are allowed to do business with them, marry into them, etc because they believe in the same God.

My father's business partner was a Jewish lawyer in the UK. They got on very well.

Lets make something very clear here. Zionism is what Islam is against. Infact truthful Jews and Pure Judaism is against Zionism. The whole world should be against Zionism.

Now, dont go covering up crimes against humanity in Palestine by bringing up rubbish like whats in your post. Either you are ignorant willingly or you just didnt know. If you didnt know, now you do, I say nothing but the truth when it comes to Islam. Its very important you get your facts right.

Laters!!

WS.