[Narcodran]

You have a region where three major religions all claim that they were given the land by divine right, all have holy sites in the area ( often for the same event in their religious history) and all three religions basically hate each other and claim that they are acting in legitimate self defence.

(I know that in Middle East violence the Christians are only bit players but there are there and have participated in the violence.)

The ironic thing is that all three religions not only share the same roots but claim to have a belief in peace and coexistence with other religions.

I do not think that there will ever be peace in the region as the elites of these groups have too much invested in a culture of hatred and retaliation.

[JonnLeejsp]

No, there will never be peace in all of the Middle East. It's the birth place of civilization and as such the birth place of war.

[dalnecymync]

Depends. Getting over the whole religion thing does wonders. Maybe in a distant future.

[Toscoropreark]

No way to tell of course, but consider weve only really been in the information age for a few decades. Eventually the Palestinians will learn.

[gtyruzzel]

No there will never be peace in the middle east. It's a family feud.

[DextExexy]

Peace will reign when there is no one left to fight.

And that day will come sooner than you think...

[Tamawaipsemek]

No. Not ever. Which is why we should pull out and let them kill each other.

[UBJ3kvP1]

No, there will never be peace in all of the Middle East. It's the birth place of civilization and as such the birth place of war.

I believe North Africa is the real cradle of civilization.

[KlaraNovikoffa]

I believe North Africa is the real cradle of civilization.

Mesopotamia isn't in North Africa. Of course what constitutes civilization can be argued. Egypt is also considered part of the middle east so any which way it was the middle east which birthed the civilization we are now stuck with.

[CsFLhGNp]

Peace will come when one side or the other is beaten. The problem is that the whole world is afraid to win wars these days.
Let's look back at WW II, Korea, and Viet Nam. We won WW II decisively by utterly demoralizing the Axis and look what happened to our enemies. Japan, Germany and Italy are now friends and allies.
In Korea and 'Nam, we let the politicians run the effort and fought wars of attrition, not annihilation. The end result is that Viet Nam and North Korea are not at all on our side.
Whoever decides to stop pussy footing around and take war seriously will dominate a peaceful Middle East.

[beatrisio]

Let's look back at WW II, Korea, and Viet Nam. We won WW II decisively by utterly demoralizing the Axis and look what happened to our enemies. Japan, Germany and Italy are now friends and allies.

On the other hand we don't have 2,000-3,000 years of history of fighting with those countries supporting an ongoing hatred of each other. We do have some history with fighting the British and we did seem to overcome that problem after a couple hundred years.

[pongeystrhjst]

How can there be peace in the middle east when Israel has anti-peace policies. Its existance revolves around fighting peace and spreading terrorism. They killed peace activists, humanitarian activists, anyone who wants to create peace ... they get brutally killed.

Their own IDF soldiers said after the war in Gaza they had orders to target anything that moves.... be it civilian or watever... it should be killed.

The Israeli people are cursed with this Israeli Government. The Middle East and The World at large is cursed with this virus. Jews, Muslims and Christians lived peacefully prior to 1948, why cant this happen again?

Read Haaretz,..even Israeli journalists have condemned the attack. Europe, Russia and the rest of the world condemned it. Guess who is shy of giving a clear and full condemnation? Yes you guessed right, America.

So America is also directly responsible for the absence of peace in the middle east.

Oh one last thing. To any pro israeli reader reading my post,... I dont give a **** if you think I am anti semitic. As an Arab, I am proud of my semitic routes. Go read up about semites and wipe some of that ignorance and brainwashing that Zionists have installed in your head.

There is no excuse whatsoever for the actions of Israel. Israel needs a regime change. The International Community needs to work somethin out,.. throw the current terrorist regime out and replace it with peace loving Israelis.

Jeez this is so effing unbelievable... they openly kill peace and humanitian activists and countries still have diplomatic ties with them. Treat them as Al Qaeda or some other terrorist group.

WS.

[JohnImamadviser]

Israel isn't alone with "anti-peace" policies. Thinking this is one sided, when both sides are actively involved in atrocities, is foolish.

[karaburatoreror]

Yes, once the world finds a good substitute for their oil we will pull out and leave them alone. Or, in the end, we will leave when it runs out. Except for that they really have nothing we want, they're not even a trade nexus anymore as it's actually cheaper to ship containerized goods across Russia by rail to Europe and the Suez canal isn't big enough for most container ships, nor is it really practical to make it so.

The Israeli thing is indeed a family squabble and like most such will be patched up as soon as they realize America no longer needs a catspaw in the area and they're going to have to work together to survive without the oil money.

The Middle East is a backwater to the main area of World History and has been since 1492 when it began a slow shifting from the Med to the Atlantic basin. It's now the Pacific Basin and that should remain so for some time. In 50 years Arabia will be dreaming of it's history again, just as it did for nearly a millenia before the World Wars.

[Cucoulkrory]

How can there be peace in the middle east when Israel has anti-peace policies. Its existance revolves around fighting peace and spreading terrorism. .

-see above-

and there ya go.... that 'mind' is made up and closed....

thats why there is no peace and won't be for well, maybe ever.......








war to the knife is isn't allowed anymore, alluding to ernies post, so they live with the death of the 1000 cuts.

[Itrtuawh]

Jews, Muslims and Christians lived peacefully prior to 1948, why cant this happen again?

Ignorance keeps it from happening. The region also wasn't at peace before 1948.

[Avgustslim]

You have a region where three major religions all claim that they were given the land by divine right, all have holy sites in the area ( often for the same event in their religious history) and all three religions basically hate each other and claim that they are acting in legitimate self defence.

(I know that in Middle East violence the Christians are only bit players but there are there and have participated in the violence.)

The ironic thing is that all three religions not only share the same roots but claim to have a belief in peace and coexistence with other religions.

I do not think that there will ever be peace in the region as the elites of these groups have too much invested in a culture of hatred and retaliation.

there are a few options for full and lasting peace in the mid east.


A) the entire rest of the world (and i mean EVERYBODY) comes in, decides who's "right", tells everybody else to sit down and shut the fuck up or get your throat cut. NOTE: eggs will be broken here.
After the dust settles the only ones left will be so terrified that they'll do whatever you say and be nice and peace loving.
This is not really a great solution.
B) somehow change hundreds of years of ingrained "he doesn't believe exactly what I believe so I must kill him for GOD" culture/thoughts/beliefs into "he doesn't believe exactly what I believe and I don't like that, but I'm not going to go around willy nilly blowing things up and shooting people that look funny". Which is going to be impossible, wihthout lots of violence and rights violations.
C) round everyone up, put them on opposite sides of the region, put all the guns in the middle and let them go at land grab style. Deal with whoever's left.

other than that I just don't see real peace happening in such a historically war torn area as the Mid East.

[Feelundseenna]

I dont think its an issue of religion here. I am not saying religion isnt playin a role here.... however... its not as much as it used to be historically. The peace convoy had people from all religions, yet they were attacked and killed. Obviously the americans were put in the next plane back to new york... but the rest 400 or so activists are in prison still.
im
Its an issue to do with human rights.... the seige is a human rights issue... the fact that they dont want to convoy to reach Gaza is a human rights issue.... they blocked all access to Gazas so that they starve to death... is a human rights issue. The International Community can condemn this for months but they are powerless since America is backin up everythin Israel does. So the implimentation of peace in the M/E is directly impacted by America. It is directly blocking the progress of peace by supporting Israeli Terrorism and looking the other way when attacks against peace envoys takes place.

The MAIN reason why peace cant exist for now is because power is in the hands of the evildoers/warmongerers, its as simple as that.

WS.

[unmalryAlalry]

I dont think its an issue of religion here. I am not saying religion isnt playin a role here.... however... its not as much as it used to be historically. The peace convoy had people from all religions, yet they were attacked and killed. Obviously the americans were put in the next plane back to new york... but the rest 400 or so activists are in prison still.
im
Its an issue to do with human rights.... the seige is a human rights issue... the fact that they dont want to convoy to reach Gaza is a human rights issue.... they blocked all access to Gazas so that they starve to death... is a human rights issue. The International Community can condemn this for months but they are powerless since America is backin up everythin Israel does. So the implimentation of peace in the M/E is directly impacted by America. It is directly blocking the progress of peace by supporting Israeli Terrorism and looking the other way when attacks against peace envoys takes place.

The MAIN reason why peace cant exist for now is because power is in the hands of the evildoers/warmongerers, its as simple as that.

WS.

Like Hezzbollah? Or Al Queda? Its not just the Israelis that are starting shit, nor is it simply america's fault. The real problem is the Muslims and the Jews hate each other profusely because the killing has gone on too long, and both have various allies that excacerbate the conflict by butting into what is basically a family affair. It was originally for religious reasons, but now its just a blood fued.

[JessicaLin]

There was a guy in our dorm (1980's post-barracks bombing) from Lebanon who described it as the following: The arabs fight each other with huge blood feuds dating back centuries. Then Israel arrives, and all (or most) of the feuds stop and they all band together to fight the Israelis. If the Israelis were gone or somehow out of the picture, the arabs would go back to fighting each other to the death. Basically, "we hate each other, but we'll work together to fight our common enemy ... once he's gone we'll go back to fighting each other".

So no, there really won't be peace in the middle east for a very very very very long time.

I've got a great idea .... LET'S START A FUCKING COUNTRY RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF IT ALL!