[Salliter]

Well, its a start I suppose...

NATO warship sinks pirate ship off Somalia

A NATO destroyer has sunk a pirate mothership in the Indian Ocean off the Somali coast after allowing the crew to leave, the alliance said Monday.

HDMS Absalon

By SLOBODAN LEKIC
Associated Press Writer

BRUSSELS —A NATO destroyer has sunk a pirate mothership in the Indian Ocean off the Somali coast after allowing the crew to leave, the alliance said Monday.

Shona Lowe, an anti-piracy spokeswoman, said the HDMS Absalon - the Danish flagship of the three-vessel NATO flotilla in the region - disrupted a pirate operation by "scuttling" one of the large boats used by Somali gangs to transport attack teams to piracy hunting areas far off the coast.

The mothership was fired on and sunk after its crew members were transferred to a smaller boat in tow, which was allowed to return to the mainland, she said.

"NATO is not in the business of firing at skiffs with pirates in them," Lowe said in an interview from NATO's naval headquarters in Northwood, near London. I think they will find anti-piracy operations will be much more effective if they sink the pirates while in their ships.

[mikapoq]

Hmm. NATO does something pretty constructive.

[tadacia]

Hmm. NATO does something pretty constructive.

Whats constructive about it?

[SusanSazzios]

Stupid move. The only way to eliminate piracy is to eliminate pirates.

My apologies MHP

[Enrivaanonock]

Stupid move. The only way to eliminate piracy is to eliminate pirates.

My apologies MHP

Piracy is a business, increase the cost and you decrease the frequency, increase the violence and innocent people die.

[fmrcurter]

Piracy is a business, increase the cost and you decrease the frequency, increase the violence and innocent people die.

You referring to the pirates themselves?

Or to the possibility of retaliation, by the pirates, upon innocent civilians?

[babopeddy]

You referring to the pirates themselves?

Or to the possibility of retaliation, by the pirates, upon innocent civilians?

I'm referring to their victims, who could expect rougher treatment if the level of violence is increased.

Piracy won't end because the supply of potential pirates has dried up, it will end because the return on investment drops to the point where no one will put up the money for a mother ship.

[mv37afnr]

Piracy is a business, increase the cost and you decrease the frequency, increase the violence and innocent people die.

How much do pirates cost?

[vernotixas]

I'm referring to their victims, who could expect rougher treatment if the level of violence is increased.

Well, I'm hesitant to disagree with the above statement. Off the top of my head, I can't recall anyone being killed by pirates, unless I'm missing something.

[Charryith]

Piracy is a business, increase the cost and you decrease the frequency, increase the violence and innocent people die.

Yup. Or decrease the profit for risk margin.

How much do pirates cost?

Not very much.

Well, I'm hesitant to disagree with the above statement. Off the top of my head, I can't recall anyone being killed by pirates, unless I'm missing something.

Not in this context (that I know of).

But pirates ever?

[Sillaycheg]

Dead pirates have never, to my knowledge, killed anyone, regardless of profit/risk.

[vforvandetta]

Yup. Or decrease the profit for risk margin.

Wouldn't that just make ransoms even higher?

[beckercpa]

Ahem if this had been a Royal Navy ship, they would have hung these brigands from the yardarm, arrrrr! Where is Meadehall Pirate anyway?

[55TRATTERENRY]

Lads,

To get a better understanding of Pirates (or Afghanistan) check out Ross Kemp Series on his documentaries... He has award winning documentaries on both confilcits.. He interviews the pirates and gets into what they are about...

By the way his Afghanistan stuff is brilliant... He basically goes on patrols and missions with a British units in helman province... Number of scenes of him taking fire and alot of battle scences (the guy must be a bit daft).. He is very unbiased...

Actually just after doing a two part series on Israel-Palestine conflict, one from the Palestine side and one from the Israel side... Gripping stuff (especially when he goes into one of the tunnels between Gazza and Egypt, bloody dangerous, great reporting)..

Here is the you tube but you could get the torrent download of it as well( I don't know if this would be legal)... By the way the company that paid for these series is SKY which is owned by Murdoch but has no editorial input, think they say if a guy is willing to go into warzone and get shot at by the Taliban then he say what he likes... This is one of the top shows on SKY...

Ross kemp site:youtube.com - Google Videos

[Wahwlsnt]

Piracy is a business, increase the cost and you decrease the frequency, increase the violence and innocent people die.

Exactly. Pirates tend to have pretty high opinion of themselves, and won't risk it if they are guaranteed death if caught.

These guys will be back at it tomorrow and pissed because we sank their boat.

[Kamendoriks]

"The mothership was fired on and sunk after its crew members were transferred to a smaller boat in tow, which was allowed to return to the mainland, she said."

okay now i'm confused.

[prpaims]

"The mothership was fired on and sunk after its crew members were transferred to a smaller boat in tow, which was allowed to return to the mainland, she said."

okay now i'm confused.

Pirate mothership is cruising along, and HDMS Absalon intercepts it. HDMS Absalon Captain orders crew of pirate mothership to abandon her, and retreat to smaller vessel that she was towing. After the pirates complied, HDMS Absalon sinks pirate mothership, as pirates head back to shore in their smaller vessel.

That, or something very similar to that, is what occurred, as far as I can tell.

[DYjLN8rF]

I'm referring to their victims, who could expect rougher treatment if the level of violence is increased.

yes of course an increase in pain or consequences as in making it less attractive to be a pirate by expunging them violently and demonstrably as they were for centuries before we got all civilized would then make anyone imposing such, guilty of ratcheting up the violence


God thats perfect, I mean it goober , you're the best..perfect Liberal thinking, don't deal with the disease, cure the symptom. Oh, and you get points for the usual peaceful and chic spineless Euro collaboration as that has been their take on it too...........gotta love the consistency.

hang them, hang them out of hand. Shit would blow over...period, they would prey on each other on shore and cut the crap...but hey...I am only for like effective answers...sorry, guess I need to seek absolution.

Piracy won't end because the supply of potential pirates has dried up, it will end because the return on investment drops to the point where no one will put up the money for a mother ship.
oh so now its an exercise in economics? Supply & demand, return on investment etc.....you've turned into a republican......

[Kristoferson]

Pirate mothership is cruising along, and HDMS Absalon intercepts it. HDMS Absalon Captain orders crew of pirate mothership to abandon her, and retreat to smaller vessel that she was towing. After the pirates complied, HDMS Absalon sinks pirate mothership, as pirates head back to shore in their smaller vessel.

That, or something very similar to that, is what occurred, as far as I can tell.

i'm just baffled. even if they didn't want to kill the pirates for whatever ethical reason, why didn't they arrest them all? why would you just let them return to shore? at least take the leader in for questioning or something.

clearly this is obama's fault.

[weO1bVp1]

i'm just baffled. even if they didn't want to kill the pirates for whatever ethical reason, why didn't they arrest them all? why would you just let them return to shore? at least take the leader in for questioning or something.

clearly this is obama's fault.

I can't see Uh-bama's hand in any of this, but I agree with you that to just let them go free merely invites them to return with another ship to pirate some more. Poorly thought out, in my view.