[Ekrbcbvh]

Not true in all jobs...I know plenty of people who would do the work the illegals are now doing in my town. As a matter of fact, Americans WERE doing the jobs until the were laid off so illegals could be hired.

Who laid off the American workers?

Do you blame the illegals or the perps. for their actions ?

[OShellszz]

Sales taxes are put in place for a reason. So government can spend more. Just because they have avoided paying them in the past doesn't mean we should allow it now without some form of taxation. The idea of making money in America then supporting Ireland/Mexico with it is one of the reasons states like California are now about bankrupt.

If you place sales taxes on money transfers, you will not just affect your intended target, illegals. It will affect anyone who goes to Western Union to do a quick collect, or wire transfers for any reason, which would then to intend price increases on most things you purchase, eventually. Putting that idea in place is why California is in the trouble it is in, among a few other things with this idea of yours.



Thats a good idea. I get first dibs on the Chinese who only make a dollar a day. Hopefully they bring diseases so I can root out my expensive labor for the cheap slave labor. Korea and Japan do this for certain jobs, specifically teachers and engineers. The US could follow suit to hire. The point is that the US is in a global business war and at stake are the young talent from abroad, including here. I have a friend, who is an American, that was lured from Lockheed to Australia.


I know. I sold drugs in the past. Well not really...what I did was make a bulk purchase for friends to make mine free. I also used to believe taxes were voluntary and that I should not have to pay them. After seeing the decay of America I realized that my taxes are crucial to the survival of America. The problem is my taxes are not going to Americans. Instead they support free healthcare for illegals, food stamps for illegals, and free housing for illegals. Oh good god. Generally illegals, and most legal residents cannot obtain welfare benefits. There are exceptions, but that is rare. If you want to start a discussion on the topic, I will be more than willing. You can use American Resistance and simlar organizations and I will use the actual data the governent provides.


I was at a grocery store in Whittier Ca which is essentually East Los Angeles. I was the minority if you know what I mean. I was in line and the family in front of me was paying with food stamps. I started to look at the details and found that the lady had a Louis Vatton purse, the boy (probably 11-12) had a cell phone rivaling mine, and the little girl was adorrable in her $200 outfit. When I paid the lady said "you are paying with Cash?" I said "of coarse I am is there a problem?" She said "no its just that noone pays with cash at this store. They pay with food stamps" I said "technically they are paying with cash. My tax money pays for their food stamps." As I walk out to my car the lady who was in front of me gets the best of me again. My 2003 Z28 just didn't compare to her Escalade with spinning 22's. I realized I was in the wrong profession. If I could make myself illegal somehow I'd be rich. Yes, and I can take you to the Woodlands, TX or Beverly Hills, CA. There I would show you someone having 10 credit cards in their wallet which one may have enough limit to purchase the items. Then they will drive their BMW's to their $800k house and you think they would be living the large life, not knowing they are just one paycheck away from forfeiture. But gross generalizations such as yours and the example I gave is more fiction than reality.

[Extipletape]

I don't but they spoke mexican. Had a bumper sticker that said I heart Jalisco, and they were blaring Mariachi music from the $5,000 stereo system that you and I bought for them.

So basically, you are assuming that speaking a different language then they are illegal?

[rarpAcconavox]

I don't but they spoke mexican. Had a bumper sticker that said I heart Jalisco, and they were blaring Mariachi music from the $5,000 stereo system that you and I bought for them.

I heart ? Jalisco (a state in Mexico)

"I" sold those guys that stero last week. They gave me a IOU and fixed me up with a "senorita"....... I tore up the IOU today when my blood test showed negative

[AXGreg]

Who laid off the American workers?

Do you blame the illegals or the perps. for their actions ?

I blame them both because both are criminals.

[frequensearules]

I blame them both because both are criminals.

By your standards, I'm a criminal too. Do you blame it on me as well?


Look, there are always going to be opportunistic tragedy chasers. If a big storm rips up an area, there's going to be an influx of cheap labor, legal or not. Quality and local jobs are going to suffer. Blaming undocumented immigrants is a scapegoating that doesn't hold up.

[Sleflanna]

Illegal immigrants come and go like the shifting wind. Pursuing them to deport them is fairly ridiculous as it doesn't solve anything.

On the other hand, the landowners and businessowners who hire them are fairly static entities, with a mailing address and a taxpayer ID. Why the fuck aren't we prosecuting them instead? If we made the cost of hiring illegals as great or greater than the cost of hiring citizens, businesses would stop hiring illegals and the illegal immigrant problem would largely go away on its own.

[zzbust]

Illegal immigrants come and go like the shifting wind. Pursuing them to deport them is fairly ridiculous as it doesn't solve anything.

On the other hand, the landowners and businessowners who hire them are fairly static entities, with a mailing address and a taxpayer ID. Why the fuck aren't we prosecuting them instead? If we made the cost of hiring illegals as great or greater than the cost of hiring citizens, businesses would stop hiring illegals and the illegal immigrant problem would largely go away on its own.

Ding ding! If you're serious about stopping illegal immigration, then you have to stop what is making them come here-jobs and money. But you see, employers LIKE the cheap labor, politicians LIKE the campaign contributions, so all the complaining is just hype.

[fameintatenly]

By your standards, I'm a criminal too. Do you blame it on me as well?


Look, there are always going to be opportunistic tragedy chasers. If a big storm rips up an area, there's going to be an influx of cheap labor, legal or not. Quality and local jobs are going to suffer. Blaming undocumented immigrants is a scapegoating that doesn't hold up.

Are you legally a US citizen? If so, why would I think you're a criminal...unless, of course, you hire ILLEGALS and if that's the case, then yes, you're also a criminal.

I shouldn't blame ILLEGAL ALIENS for any of this? Why the hell not? I blame the scumbag employers who hire them and I blame the ILLEGALS for breaking the law by coming here ILLEGALLY in the first place.

[AbraroLib]

Are you legally a US citizen? If so, why would I think you're a criminal...unless, of course, you hire ILLEGALS and if that's the case, then yes, you're also a criminal.

I sped on my way to work.

[Clolmemaexata]

I sped on my way to work.

Did speeding on your way to work take a job away from an American? Did it cost taxpayers anything in hospital care or education?

[Ecurrexchangess]

Did speeding on your way to work take a job away from an American? Did it cost taxpayers anything in hospital care or education?

It put less into the American economy than your average undocumented immigrant.

[Hdzcxqoi]

So basically, you are assuming that speaking a different language then they are illegal?

If they cant speak english then they are likely illegal.

[AgowlSown]

It put less into the American economy than your average undocumented immigrant.

That's not what I asked.

[PZXjoe]

If they cant speak english then they are likely illegal.

Who says they can't?

And I know several US citizens who don't speak English.

That's not what I asked.

If they give more than they take, they aren't stealing shit.

[CathBraun]

Who says they can't?

And I know several US citizens who don't speak English.


If they give more than they take, they aren't stealing shit.

If they were actually giving more than they take, I would still have a problem with it because their very first act in the US was an illegal one.
I can't believe that you don't have a problem with around $300 BILLION being sent out of the country each year by illegals and yes, some legal immigrants also. That's $300 billion that doesn't go into our own economy! What do we get out of it? Nothing when you factor in free health care, free education, free food, etc.

[spounnypneups]

If they were actually giving more than they take, I would still have a problem with it because their very first act in the US was an illegal one.
I can't believe that you don't have a problem with around $300 BILLION being sent out of the country each year by illegals and yes, some legal immigrants also. That's $300 billion that doesn't go into our own economy! What do we get out of it? Nothing when you factor in free health care, free education, free food, etc.

I can't believe that you have a problem with remittances. If I earn money, I can do whatever the fuck I want with it.


(And yes, we do get something out of it: the economy is global. How do you think Mexicans afford to buy our shit?)

[Adeniinteme]

I can't believe that you have a problem with remittances. If I earn money, I can do whatever the fuck I want with it.


(And yes, we do get something out of it: the economy is global. How do you think Mexicans afford to buy our shit?)

Maybe you'll understand it this way. California expects to have a budget deficit of $24.3 billion this year and they have the largest population of illegals. If they could deport all of the illegals living in the state and those in prison, they would save on health care, education and stop the flow of money out of the state. They could easily overcome that $24.3 billion deficit! Factor in how hiring illegals suppresses wages for Americans AND take jobs from us and the savings is even greater.
I know that in your idealistic mind, you don't see the harm being done and I'm sure this post isn't going to make a difference so I'm going to just agree to disagree with you on it.

[Atmotteenrift]

I propose that each time we apprehend an illegal alien, we make him a citizen and deport a right wing nut job.

I say a bullet into the illegals head for being an invader.....as to the rest of your message, in 9 months the left wing nut jobs will become a thing of the past.

[borasolit]

So basically, you are assuming that speaking a different language then they are illegal?

Living here in New York, I can say the majority are. And they not afraid to say so either.