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Old 07-01-2010, 11:23 AM   #1
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Default Afghan, Coalition Forces Take Out Afghan Insurgents
We keep forgetting about our soldiers after a few days without a something bleeding happening, so heres a little good news of the ongoing efforts by our forgotten citizens carrying on the battle in Afghanistan. Hopefully the Commander will acknoledge them for more than one day at some point.

Defense.gov News Article: Afghan, Coalition Forces Take Out Afghan Insurgents

Afghan, Coalition Forces Take Out Afghan Insurgents
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BAGRAM AIRFIELD, Afghanistan, Jan. 6, 2010 – Afghan and international forces have removed nearly two dozen key insurgents from the fight in Afghanistan since mid November, military officials here reported today.

Afghan National Security Forces, with help from NATO’s International Security Assistance Force and coalition forces, have continued to remove militants from eastern Afghanistan, creating a safer environment for the Afghan people, ISAF officials said.

Between Nov. 14 and Dec. 25, more than 23 key insurgents, mostly Taliban and Haqqani network senior leaders, known for leading the planning and undertaking of deadly attacks, have either been killed or captured.

“We are continuing to work with our Afghan partners to protect the Afghan people by removing those personnel who pose a direct threat to the Afghan people,” Lt. Col. Clarence Counts, Jr., a spokesman for Combined Joint Task Force - 82 and Regional Command-East, said. “These militants used violence, fear, and intimidation to continue directing their attacks against innocent civilians as well as the very institutions that will inevitably establish security and prosperity in Afghanistan for all Afghans.” Sadly at the same time, more soldiers are dying while waiting on reinforcements and supplies.

The Department of Defense announced today the death of three soldiers who were supporting Operation Enduring Freedom. They died Jan. 3 in Ashoque, Afghanistan, from wounds suffered when insurgents attacked their unit with multiple improvised explosives devices and small arms fire. They were assigned to the 1st Battalion, 12th Infantry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division, Fort Carson, Colo.

Killed were:

Sgt. Joshua A. Lengstorf, 24, of Yoncalla, Ore.

Spc. Brian R. Bowman, 24, of Crawfordsville, Ind.

Pvt. John P. Dion, 19, of Shattuck, Okla.
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Old 07-01-2010, 12:56 PM   #2
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Killed were:

Sgt. Joshua A. Lengstorf, 24, of Yoncalla, Ore.

Spc. Brian R. Bowman, 24, of Crawfordsville, Ind.

Pvt. John P. Dion, 19, of Shattuck, Okla. Hopefully they were able to take some with them.
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Old 07-01-2010, 03:03 PM   #3
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We keep forgetting about our soldiers after a few days without a something bleeding happening, so heres a little good news of the ongoing efforts by our forgotten citizens carrying on the battle in Afghanistan. Hopefully the Commander will acknoledge them for more than one day at some point.

Defense.gov News Article: Afghan, Coalition Forces Take Out Afghan Insurgents

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Do you think this attack is included ?

Western troops accused of executing 10 Afghan civilians, including children - Times Online


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Old 07-01-2010, 05:41 PM   #4
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Included in what?
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Old 07-01-2010, 06:09 PM   #5
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In an insurgency war the hardest thing is to determine who is an insurgent and who is a friendly. Couple that with the Afghan propensity to change sides depending on which is making the better offer at the moment and you get a situation where a lot of the dead are claimed to be innocent civilian causalities. This is without regard for them actually being innocent civilians or militants.

In Afghanistan we have a second complicating issue. There are a lot of unaffiliated gangs out there. These are mostly criminal but some are local warlords attempting to carve out a bigger piece of the pie for themselves. They also get called AGE( Antigovernment elements, the term used here more often than Taliban as it is more all encompassing).

The actual AGE also want innocent civilian causalities, especially women and children. They justify it on the basis that any Moslem who dies in defence of Islam goes straight to Paradise. This includes those killed as collateral damage. Since the AGE believe that they are the true defenders of Islam, anything they do, anyone they kill is either a enemy or will go straight top Paradise and hence be better off.

Conversely ISAAF wants as few civilian deaths as possible. This is both in reality and in perception. There is a tendency for them to call all dead military age males AGE.

The deaths said to be civilian deaths are a major recruiting tool for the AGE. The concept of honour in this society makes revenge killings almost a requirement so if they kill one family member then the remaining family members are ripe for recruiting.

The only part of causality figures I believe is the number. Civilian or AGE is often blurred and imposable to determine.
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Old 07-01-2010, 06:10 PM   #6
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Included in what?
I´ll give you a hint

"BAGRAM AIRFIELD, Afghanistan, Jan. 6, 2010 – Afghan and international forces have removed nearly two dozen key insurgents from the fight in Afghanistan since mid November, military officials here reported today"


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Old 07-01-2010, 06:59 PM   #7
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I´ll give you a hint

"BAGRAM AIRFIELD, Afghanistan, Jan. 6, 2010 – Afghan and international forces have removed nearly two dozen key insurgents from the fight in Afghanistan since mid November, military officials here reported today"


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Ah, it might have helped had you included that in your original quote. In which case, I cant answer that, as it assumes your link to be factual.
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