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Old 02-02-2010, 12:25 AM   #21
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Yep. A few.


Just like a few "Christians" who murder doctors or bomb abortion clinics doesn't implicate Christianity as a whole.
If that happened anywhere close to the amount in which these types of actions occur, you might actually have a point.
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Old 02-02-2010, 12:39 AM   #22
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And the millions who participate and or sympathize/condone these actions is a few?
Can you prove that? Any links?
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Old 02-02-2010, 12:40 AM   #23
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Cosign. They need to calm that shit down. But you always gotta remember, that there are two sides.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aBQW-ByM4w

and you got those:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NYzs8IjxhY
That second one sounds like Dolly Parton. You sure that's not one of her songs played backward?
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Old 02-02-2010, 12:49 AM   #24
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That second one sounds like Dolly Parton. You sure that's not one of her songs played backward?
To me it sounds like some Bollywood shit.

But anyways, what counts is the message.
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Old 03-01-2010, 07:39 PM   #25
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Can you prove that? Any links?
Would it be something that you could find out, via polling? I hardly think so. Instead I'll just go with my understanding of how the culture is and who the people are that live there. As someone who has specialized in Arabic studies, to a degree, I feel half qualified to speak on it with my own authority. I don't need someone else to tell me what to think.

We could do it in a more logical format though. Thousands took to the streets to celebrate the fall of the twin towers. It's quite easy to assume that for every person that was dancing in the street there are many times that many who held similar sentiments but didn't go out. This is an easy extrapolation.
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Old 03-01-2010, 07:43 PM   #26
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Would it be something that you could find out, via polling? I hardly think so. Instead I'll just go with my understanding of how the culture is and who the people are that live there. As someone who has specialized in Arabic studies, to a degree, I feel half qualified to speak on it with my own authority. I don't need someone else to tell me what to think.

We could do it in a more logical format though. Thousands took to the streets to celebrate the fall of the twin towers. It's quite easy to assume that for every person that was dancing in the street there are many times that many who held similar sentiments but didn't go out. This is an easy extrapolation.
Oh? Care to... extrapolate?
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Old 03-01-2010, 07:45 PM   #27
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Too bad they didn't kill the fucker...
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Old 03-01-2010, 08:02 PM   #28
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Oh? Care to... extrapolate?
I have enough credits that I could major in Arabic w/o having to take a single Arabic class.

-edit- Working in the field, in some form, has also been part of my job description almost 9 years.
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Old 03-01-2010, 08:17 PM   #29
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I have enough credits that I could major in Arabic w/o having to take a single Arabic class.

-edit- Working in the field, in some form, has also been part of my job description almost 9 years.
Ever heard of Orientalism?
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Old 03-01-2010, 09:55 PM   #30
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please, play nice......
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Old 04-01-2010, 07:41 AM   #31
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They won't forget it. The culture is made to keep and hold hate. This is why there are feudes that last generations.
The $1 million price on the cartoonist's head is a pretty hefty reward, too. Wouldn't want to have that kind of price on my head.
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Old 04-01-2010, 11:26 AM   #32
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As someone who has specialized in Arabic studies, to a degree, I feel half qualified to speak on it with my own authority. I don't need someone else to tell me what to think.

We could do it in a more logical format though. Thousands took to the streets to celebrate the fall of the twin towers. It's quite easy to assume that for every person that was dancing in the street there are many times that many who held similar sentiments but didn't go out. This is an easy extrapolation.
1. Which arab countries did you visit ?


2. As someone who allegedly specialised in arab studies you should be aware that demonstrations in arab countries are almost always staged and very rarely spontaneous ( since most of the countries that we are talking about are police states who usually donīt allow ANY kind of demonstration)
And to "assume" something is not the same as presenting facts which you did not.
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Old 04-01-2010, 01:23 PM   #33
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As someone who allegedly specialised in arab studies you should be aware that demonstrations in arab countries are almost always staged and very rarely spontaneous ( since most of the countries that we are talking about are police states who usually donīt allow ANY kind of demonstration)
And to "assume" something is not the same as presenting facts which you did not.
My job description has been in my public profile, since I joined the board. If you have a problem with it or question my integrity about it, tough shit.

Protest aren't always staged and they are allowed depending on who is doing it. If you aren't part of the group that's in control, you know not to stick your head out or you'll lose it along with your family.
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Old 04-01-2010, 04:55 PM   #34
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If anybody is unclear about who the bad guys are - and there do seem to be quite a few - then you would think that this kind of crap would help them figure it out.
Exactly. These conservatives are really making the world a hard place to live. We should return the favor.
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Old 04-01-2010, 05:13 PM   #35
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Would it be something that you could find out, via polling? I hardly think so. Instead I'll just go with my understanding of how the culture is and who the people are that live there. As someone who has specialized in Arabic studies, to a degree, I feel half qualified to speak on it with my own authority. I don't need someone else to tell me what to think.

We could do it in a more logical format though. Thousands took to the streets to celebrate the fall of the twin towers. It's quite easy to assume that for every person that was dancing in the street there are many times that many who held similar sentiments but didn't go out. This is an easy extrapolation.
There were many who came out against the attacks as well ... as long as we're using "extrapolation" and all.
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Old 04-01-2010, 06:47 PM   #36
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and then there was the clear majority who were cravenly self willfully oblivious and used the usual backstop to make it appear a mere intellectual exercise in good manners....

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Old 05-01-2010, 01:50 PM   #37
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I find it scary to read somany racist articles.

Islam is not the problem, its political.

You canīt tell me that an unemployed African was insulted when a Dane made a cartoon in Denmark? He canīt even read Danish.

This man was assigned on a political mission and the cost an planing was paid for by this terrorist organization.

Would you fly to Africa and try to kill someone with an axe; just because you were insulted? I donīt think so.
well there is a slight difference. Islam strictly forbids depictions of the Prophet. as in there are to be no images of the prophet and the penalty is death. judaism isn't the only religion with crazy death penalties for little bitty seeming crimes.
so to a fanatical islamic (note we're talking a hardliner) this would be more than offensive. it would be a capital offense. an affront against the sacred laws of islam. were i a fanatic i'd probably hop a jet too.
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Old 05-01-2010, 02:17 PM   #38
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I find it scary to read somany racist articles.

Islam is not the problem, its political.



This man was assigned on a political mission and the cost an planing was paid for by this terrorist organization.

Would you fly to Africa and try to kill someone with an axe; just because you were insulted? I donīt think so.

1. Agreed.


2. Disagreed. To try to break with an axe into a house that is known to be heavily guarded by police and secret service rather sounds like the action of a wet dream pseudo wanna be Osama than a political mission or a well planned action by a terrorist organisation.
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