[floadaVonfoli]

Interestingly, this was written 3yrs ago.....probably many times since 9/11. The question now becomes, 'how many attacks will the US endue before the US institutes a zero tolerance policy against Muslims?


By Jeff Jacoby, Globe Columnist | August 23, 2006

THE SAFEST airline in the world, it is widely agreed, is El Al, Israel's national carrier. The safest airport is Ben Gurion International, in Tel Aviv. No El Al plane has been attacked by terrorists in more than three decades, and no flight leaving Ben Gurion has ever been hijacked. So when US aviation intensified its focus on security after 9/11, it seemed a good bet that the experience of travelers in American airports would increasingly come to resemble that of travelers flying out of Tel Aviv.

Of course most Muslims are not violent jihadis, but all violent jihadis are Muslim. ``This nation," President Bush has said, ``is at war with Islamic fascists." How much longer will we tolerate an aviation security system that pretends, for reasons of political correctness, not to know that?

What Israeli security could teach us - The Boston Globe

[samanthalueus]

That's a whole lot of words to say "profile brown people."

[Meenepek]

That's a whole lot of words to say "profile brown people."

Such logic is what has brought us to where we are now.

How many blond/ blue eyed Swedes have attacked or attempted to attack the United States?

BTW....If you'd take the time to read the piece you'll see that the title of "profiler" is exactly was Israeli security calls their screeners.

I don't have a problem with the word. Let them profile away, x-ray, pat-down everyone to make certain air passengers are safe.

[Andromino]

Such logic is what has brought us to where we are now.

How many blond/ blue eyed Swedes have attacked or attempted to attack the United States?

BTW....If you'd take the time to read the piece you'll see that the title of "profiler" is exactly was Israeli security calls their screeners.

I don't have a problem with the word. Let them profile away, x-ray, pat-down everyone to make certain air passengers are safe.

I agree with what you stated and with the points the article made.

[tsamprasxx]

Further alienating and discriminating against Muslims will not gain us any real security in the long term. Israel doesn't set a good example of much of anything.

[imporesweemo]

Further alienating and discriminating against Muslims will not gain us any real security in the long term. Israel doesn't set a good example of much of anything.

Translation; "Don't piss off the Muslims. They will make you pay"?

I get it. That's exactly the message.

[artkolkovk]

Further alienating and discriminating against Muslims will not gain us any real security in the long term. Israel doesn't set a good example of much of anything.

EL AL sets a good example of how not to have your planes blown up or hijacked. All airlines should follow it.

[Breilopmil]

Translation; "Don't piss off the Muslims. They will make you pay"?

I get it. That's exactly the message.

Nope, you don't get it.

EL AL sets a good example of how not to have your planes blown up or hijacked. All airlines should follow it.

Is it the airline? What has the airline done?

[Peertantyb]

Nope, you don't get it.

Oh yes I do. More to the point THEY get it and know exactly how to game the system.

[Angeheade]

Oh yes I do. More to the point THEY get it and know exactly how to game the system.

No, you don't. The vast majority of Muslims are not violent, nor potentially so. Angering the average Muslim by further marginalizing them will not serve US interests in the long term.

[ppfpooghn]

No, you don't. The vast majority of Muslims are not violent, nor potentially so. Angering the average Muslim by further marginalizing them will not serve US interests in the long term.

Non violent Muslims are unlikely to become terrorists just because they are closely checked at airports.
The priority should be to protect the safety if airline travellers. Avoiding annoying some people should not come first.

[Aleksis]

Non violent Muslims are unlikely to become terrorists just because they are closely checked at airports.
The priority should be to protect the safety if airline travellers. Avoiding annoying some people should not come first.

Well, that's expectedly shortsighted of you.

[NaMbessemab]

Well, that's expectedly shortsighted of you.

I don't see anything shortsighted about preventing people from being blown up.

[Nfxutkpa]

No, you don't. The vast majority of Muslims are not violent, nor potentially so. Angering the average Muslim by further marginalizing them will not serve US interests in the long term.

In reference to Muslims and this radical threat we now face, I'm interested to hear exactly what you think would "serve US interests in the long term".

Go ahead and tell us what you think is the best approach to this problem. How would you suggest we keep radical jihadist from boarding air craft bound for the US?.....
Or those already in the US from boarding ANY US aircraft.

[Flankrene]

In reference to Muslims and this radical threat we now face, I'm interested to hear exactly what you think would "serve US interests in the long term".

Go ahead and tell us what you think is the best approach to this problem.

Which problem are you referring to? Radical Islam? Airline security?

[Frdsdx26]

How do you tell if someone is Muslim?

[Sthjrderfida]

Which problem are you referring to? Radical Islam? Airline security?

Oh come on, darlin'. You know exactly what I'm talking about.

How would you purpose keeping radical Islamist who are hell bent on blowing up planes with your fellow countrymen, and other world citizens, on board?

[TubOppomo]

Oh come on, darlin'. You know exactly what I'm talking about.

How would you purpose keeping radical Islamist who are hell bent on blowing up planes with your fellow countrymen, and other world citizens, on board?

You don't know me well enough to call me darlin.


I think that even the best system is going to fail to catch things sometimes. But, given that, I'd like to see increased chemical detection, for one. I'd like to see the regulations that are in place being enforced - they're supposed to reconcile the passenger list with the baggage on the plane, yet somehow my baggage made it to Denver while I was stuck in OC. I think that some sort of full-body scan is inevitable, including density checks of bowel and abdominal cavity contents. For me, personally, I'd like the option of being unconscious for the entire flight (with medical supervision, of course).

The problem isn't limited to Islamists, of course. There are lots of assholes out there.

[snislarne]

You don't know me well enough to call me darlin.


I think that even the best system is going to fail to catch things sometimes. But, given that, I'd like to see increased chemical detection, for one. I'd like to see the regulations that are in place being enforced - they're supposed to reconcile the passenger list with the baggage on the plane, yet somehow my baggage made it to Denver while I was stuck in OC. I think that some sort of full-body scan is inevitable, including density checks of bowel and abdominal cavity contents. For me, personally, I'd like the option of being unconscious for the entire flight (with medical supervision, of course).

The problem isn't limited to Islamists, of course. There are lots of assholes out there.

I see. Well, FYI, "darlin" is simply a Southern term of endearment, not intended to imply that you're being propositioned or that one wants to move in with you. Simply a gentle way of conveying affection without getting too personal.

That said, perhaps you should contact Michael Jackson's Physician the next time you'd like to make the red-eye.

Your method isn't going to work for detecting the loonies of the Islamic faith.

[ruforumczspam]

Your method isn't going to work for detecting the loonies of the Islamic faith.

Why does it matter what faith the loonies are?