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**fameintatenly** · 05-10-2009, 05:59 PM

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The debate over whether to send as many as 40,000 more U.S. troops to Afghanistan is a major element of a strategy overhaul that senior administration policy advisers will consider this week as they gather for top-level meetings on the evolving direction of the war.

Obama has invited a bipartisan group of congressional leaders to the White House on Tuesday to confer about the war. He said the administration would brief leaders from both parties and key committee chairmen and would seek their opinions.

"They're an important part of this and the president wants to hear from them," Gibbs said.

**Fouttysotlalf** · 05-10-2009, 06:08 PM

No one is discussion immediate troop withdrawals in any serious manner. That's a phantom menace you've conjured up. The discussion is whether to increase current troop levels in Afghanistan. I'm glad I could step in to assuage your fears.

**Soypopetype** · 05-10-2009, 06:12 PM

No one is discussion immediate troop withdrawals in any serious manner. That's a phantom menace you've conjured up. The discussion is whether to increase current troop levels in Afghanistan. I'm glad I could step in to assuage your fears.

No, you missed the point entirely. But thanks playing.

**jurhoonee** · 05-10-2009, 06:27 PM

Crap! With a liberals complaining less, I had high hopes that we had moved beyond the Vietnam War comparison days...

**Maserati** · 05-10-2009, 06:51 PM

Crap! With a liberals complaining less, I had high hopes that we had moved beyond the Vietnam War comparison days...

oh for two !

Capital HIll micromanagement gave us failure in Vietnam and prezbo has decided to pull that chestnut back for another go.

He can't change out generals like Lincoln did till h gets one he likes so just ignore them and let Congress to do whatever they feel like.

**Mehntswx** · 05-10-2009, 06:55 PM

oh for two !

Capital HIll micromanagement gave us failure in Vietnam and prezbo has decided to pull that chestnut back for another go.

He can't change out generals like Lincoln did till h gets one he likes so just ignore them and let Congress to do whatever they feel like.

No, that is most definitely not what caused the failure in VN.

**tevyrefficy** · 05-10-2009, 07:30 PM

With any luck, when a Nixon wannabe (R) gets into the WH we can leave Afghanistan properly; and achieve peace with honor.

**JimmyHas** · 05-10-2009, 07:31 PM

oh for two !

Huh? I made an observation, so "oh for two" doesn't even make sense...
Capital HIll micromanagement gave us failure in Vietnam and prezbo has decided to pull that chestnut back for another go.

He can't change out generals like Lincoln did till h gets one he likes so just ignore them and let Congress to do whatever they feel like. There were countless reasons for Vietnam ending the way it did. The two situations are hardly comparable at all.

**qCGfQR9T** · 05-10-2009, 07:32 PM

Leaving VN worked out wonderfully for Vietnam. What's the problem?

Andrew

**mrllxp** · 05-10-2009, 07:42 PM

Leaving VN worked out wonderfully for Vietnam. What's the problem?

Andrew

Can't say I supporte the entry into conflict (protecting Lady Bird's rubber tree plantations) but if you're going to fight, you fight to win.

**Arrectiff** · 05-10-2009, 07:45 PM

Can't say I supporte the entry into conflict (protecting Lady Bird's rubber tree plantations) but if you're going to fight, you fight to win.

exactly...and once you've lost, you've lost.

(we lost)

**Fellionas** · 05-10-2009, 08:08 PM

Can't say I supporte the entry into conflict (protecting Lady Bird's rubber tree plantations) but if you're going to fight, you fight to win.

what, by murdering millions of defenseless people? how brave....

Andrew

**dasneycomrov** · 05-10-2009, 08:24 PM

what, by murdering millions of defenseless people? how brave....

Andrew

That's how we won WWII. And it's how the North won the Civil War. Most WWII vets are pretty old today, but I suspect most of them could still kick your butt.

**medio** · 05-10-2009, 08:24 PM

This about covers it.

**VovTortki** · 05-10-2009, 08:27 PM

Can't say I supporte the entry into conflict (protecting Lady Bird's rubber tree plantations) but if you're going to fight, you fight to win.

Lady Bird's Rubber plantations?

Thats some right wing crazy I hadn't heard before

**tevyrefficy** · 05-10-2009, 08:31 PM

That's how we won WWII. And it's how the North won the Civil War. Most WWII vets are pretty old today, but I suspect most of them could still kick your butt.

So in you narrow little world, Vietnam was as justified a war as WWII? wow, that's a fucking idiotic suggestion.

Andrew

**Qwjyrgij** · 05-10-2009, 09:07 PM

So in you narrow little world, Vietnam was as justified a war as WWII? wow, that's a fucking idiotic suggestion.

Andrew

I don't believe that fighting communism is ever a lost cause. Nonetheless, I don't believe I brought up Vietnam. I believe I suggested that your implication that WWII vets were cowards was pretty asinine.

**xtrupoke** · 05-10-2009, 09:09 PM

Lady Bird's Rubber plantations?

Thats some right wing crazy I hadn't heard before

I always heard she had big stock holdings in General Dynamics. But, I never took the time to research it.

**Creelaleps** · 05-10-2009, 09:31 PM

I don't believe that fighting communism is ever a lost cause. Nonetheless, I don't believe I brought up Vietnam. I believe I suggested that your implication that WWII vets were cowards was pretty asinine.

I never suggested anything of the sort.

Do you believe that murdering entire villages of defenseless people both from the ground and the air (who posed absolutely no threat to america) is wrong?

Andrew

**Ornamiviant** · 05-10-2009, 09:46 PM

That's how we won WWII. And it's how the North won the Civil War. Most WWII vets are pretty old today, but I suspect most of them could still kick your butt.

how cute!! you mythologize about american wars. you silly thing you...

05-10-2009, 05:59 PM	#1
fameintatenly Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 520 Senior Member	I seem to recall the last time we did it this way read as not turning out so well... The debate over whether to send as many as 40,000 more U.S. troops to Afghanistan is a major element of a strategy overhaul that senior administration policy advisers will consider this week as they gather for top-level meetings on the evolving direction of the war. Obama has invited a bipartisan group of congressional leaders to the White House on Tuesday to confer about the war. He said the administration would brief leaders from both parties and key committee chairmen and would seek their opinions. "They're an important part of this and the president wants to hear from them," Gibbs said. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-10-2009, 06:08 PM	#2
Fouttysotlalf Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 549 Senior Member	No one is discussion immediate troop withdrawals in any serious manner. That's a phantom menace you've conjured up. The discussion is whether to increase current troop levels in Afghanistan. I'm glad I could step in to assuage your fears. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-10-2009, 06:12 PM	#3
Soypopetype Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 382 Senior Member	No one is discussion immediate troop withdrawals in any serious manner. That's a phantom menace you've conjured up. The discussion is whether to increase current troop levels in Afghanistan. I'm glad I could step in to assuage your fears. No, you missed the point entirely. But thanks playing. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-10-2009, 06:27 PM	#4
jurhoonee Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 561 Senior Member	Crap! With a liberals complaining less, I had high hopes that we had moved beyond the Vietnam War comparison days... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-10-2009, 06:51 PM	#5
Maserati Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 436 Senior Member	Crap! With a liberals complaining less, I had high hopes that we had moved beyond the Vietnam War comparison days... oh for two ! Capital HIll micromanagement gave us failure in Vietnam and prezbo has decided to pull that chestnut back for another go. He can't change out generals like Lincoln did till h gets one he likes so just ignore them and let Congress to do whatever they feel like. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-10-2009, 06:55 PM	#6
Mehntswx Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 425 Senior Member	oh for two ! Capital HIll micromanagement gave us failure in Vietnam and prezbo has decided to pull that chestnut back for another go. He can't change out generals like Lincoln did till h gets one he likes so just ignore them and let Congress to do whatever they feel like. No, that is most definitely not what caused the failure in VN. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-10-2009, 07:30 PM	#7
tevyrefficy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 446 Senior Member	With any luck, when a Nixon wannabe (R) gets into the WH we can leave Afghanistan properly; and achieve peace with honor. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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JimmyHas Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 393 Senior Member	oh for two ! Huh? I made an observation, so "oh for two" doesn't even make sense... Capital HIll micromanagement gave us failure in Vietnam and prezbo has decided to pull that chestnut back for another go. He can't change out generals like Lincoln did till h gets one he likes so just ignore them and let Congress to do whatever they feel like. There were countless reasons for Vietnam ending the way it did. The two situations are hardly comparable at all. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-10-2009, 07:32 PM	#9
qCGfQR9T Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 346 Senior Member	Leaving VN worked out wonderfully for Vietnam. What's the problem? Andrew Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-10-2009, 07:42 PM	#10
mrllxp Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 447 Senior Member	Leaving VN worked out wonderfully for Vietnam. What's the problem? Andrew Can't say I supporte the entry into conflict (protecting Lady Bird's rubber tree plantations) but if you're going to fight, you fight to win. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-10-2009, 07:45 PM	#11
Arrectiff Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 348 Senior Member	Can't say I supporte the entry into conflict (protecting Lady Bird's rubber tree plantations) but if you're going to fight, you fight to win. exactly...and once you've lost, you've lost. (we lost) Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Fellionas Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 504 Senior Member	Can't say I supporte the entry into conflict (protecting Lady Bird's rubber tree plantations) but if you're going to fight, you fight to win. what, by murdering millions of defenseless people? how brave.... Andrew Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-10-2009, 08:24 PM	#13
dasneycomrov Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 433 Senior Member	what, by murdering millions of defenseless people? how brave.... Andrew That's how we won WWII. And it's how the North won the Civil War. Most WWII vets are pretty old today, but I suspect most of them could still kick your butt. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-10-2009, 08:24 PM	#14
medio Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 543 Senior Member	This about covers it. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-10-2009, 08:27 PM	#15
VovTortki Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 463 Senior Member	Can't say I supporte the entry into conflict (protecting Lady Bird's rubber tree plantations) but if you're going to fight, you fight to win. Lady Bird's Rubber plantations? Thats some right wing crazy I hadn't heard before Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-10-2009, 08:31 PM	#16
tevyrefficy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 446 Senior Member	That's how we won WWII. And it's how the North won the Civil War. Most WWII vets are pretty old today, but I suspect most of them could still kick your butt. So in you narrow little world, Vietnam was as justified a war as WWII? wow, that's a fucking idiotic suggestion. Andrew Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-10-2009, 09:07 PM	#17
Qwjyrgij Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 388 Senior Member	So in you narrow little world, Vietnam was as justified a war as WWII? wow, that's a fucking idiotic suggestion. Andrew I don't believe that fighting communism is ever a lost cause. Nonetheless, I don't believe I brought up Vietnam. I believe I suggested that your implication that WWII vets were cowards was pretty asinine. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-10-2009, 09:09 PM	#18
xtrupoke Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 302 Senior Member	Lady Bird's Rubber plantations? Thats some right wing crazy I hadn't heard before I always heard she had big stock holdings in General Dynamics. But, I never took the time to research it. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Creelaleps Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 356 Senior Member	I don't believe that fighting communism is ever a lost cause. Nonetheless, I don't believe I brought up Vietnam. I believe I suggested that your implication that WWII vets were cowards was pretty asinine. I never suggested anything of the sort. Do you believe that murdering entire villages of defenseless people both from the ground and the air (who posed absolutely no threat to america) is wrong? Andrew Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-10-2009, 09:46 PM	#20
Ornamiviant Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 594 Senior Member	That's how we won WWII. And it's how the North won the Civil War. Most WWII vets are pretty old today, but I suspect most of them could still kick your butt. how cute!! you mythologize about american wars. you silly thing you... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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