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Old 07-09-2009, 10:52 PM   #1
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Sgt. Randy M. Haney, 27, of Orlando, Fla., died Sept. 6 in Nangarhar, Afghanistan, of wounds suffered when enemy forces attacked his unit using small arms and rocket-propelled grenade fires. He was assigned to the 2nd Special Troops Battalion, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division, Fort Carson, Colo. 2nd Lt. Darryn D. Andrews, 34, of Dallas, Texas, died Sept. 4 in Paktika Province, Afghanistan, of wounds suffered when enemy forces attacked his vehicle with an improvised explosive device and a rocket-propelled grenade. He was assigned to 1st Battalion, 501st Parachute Infantry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team (Airborne), 25th Infantry Division, Fort Richardson, Alaska. Lance Cpl. Christopher S. Baltazar Jr., 19, of San Antonio, Texas, died Sept. 3 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. He was assigned to 2nd Light Armored Reconnaissance Battalion, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Lejeune, N.C. Petty Officer 3rd Class Benjamin P. Castiglione, 21, of Howell, Mich., died Sept. 3 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. He was assigned to the 2nd Light Armored Reconnaissance Battalion, 2nd Marine Expeditionary Battalion. The Department of Defense announced today the death of two soldiers who were supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom. They died Sept. 3 in Baqubah, Iraq, of injuries sustained during a vehicle roll-over. The soldiers were assigned to the 5th Battalion, 20th Infantry Regiment, 3rd Stryker Brigade Combat Team, 2nd Infantry Division, Fort Lewis, Wash.


Killed were:
Staff Sgt. Todd W. Selge, 25, of Burnsville, Minn.; and
Spc. Jordan M. Shay, 22, of Salisbury, Mass.
The incident is under investigation. I have yet to see this on the news. Plenty of talk about two upcoming speeches by Obama, neither of which is about Afghanistan. Luckily there are plenty of good things going on that these soldiers are dying to protect. Also not covered in the MSM.

The United States Government and the United Nations Office for Project Services (UNOPS) have started construction work on the Ghazi Boys High School and the Sardar Kabuli Girls High School in Kabul, Afghanistan. When completed in 2010, these USAID-funded schools will provide modern classrooms, laboratories, and other learning facilities for approximately 10,000 Afghan high school students. The schools are being designed and constructed to international seismic safety standards to prevent tragic school collapses during earthquakes like those in Pakistan in 2005 and China in 2008.

The final designs for both Kabul high schools fully comply with the 2006 International Building Code, which is considered the most stringent engineering standard in use today. As a result, the Sardar Kabuli Girls High School will be the most structurally sound multi-story building in Afghanistan. These design standards have also been incorporated in design modifications for Ghazi Boys High School and numerous other USAID building projects across the country.

UNOPS awarded the Ghazi Boys High School contract to EDE Construction Company, a Turkey-based contractor that has successfully completed several similar building projects in Kabul including the Ministry of Rural Rehabilitation and Development offices and the Headquarters of the Afghan Customs Directorate. The contractor for Sardar Kabuli Girls High School, FCEC/UIP, is a joint-venture between a local Afghan-owned construction firm and a US-based project management and engineering firm.
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Old 07-09-2009, 11:01 PM   #2
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every night when I pray I have a homily I voice....; "god bless and keep safe every airman, marine soldier and sailor overseas"....I don't even know what to say here....rip.
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Old 08-09-2009, 11:37 AM   #3
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More on Chris Baltazar:

In high school, Christopher Baltazar favored getting dirty and sweaty in the field over the spit-and-polish look that Junior ROTC students push themselves to achieve.

So it wasn’t a surprise to any of his friends that he joined the Marines after graduating last year from Judson High School.

The Judson community now is reeling over the news from Afghanistan. His family learned late Thursday that he died after stepping on a pressure-activated explosive. Marine, a graduate of Judson, is killed
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Old 12-09-2009, 01:24 PM   #4
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Protesters were not against the war. They were against the Presidency and government. They just needed a convenient platform (the war) to throw loaded words out from to scare people into their movement and against the Presidency.

However, you will see more people do support the war in Afghanistan, than Iraq. For valid reasons. They are not hateful hippies (like the kind we saw protesting years ago); they just have a standpoint that Afghanistan is the real objective.
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I think the people support our soldiers. And that they want whatever needs to be done, done, to protect the soldiers and ourselves. I personally dont feel the president is giving his full attention to his command, including a lack of resources. He is willing to spend one trillion on healthcare, but not 100billion on supplies that soldiers need?
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Old 12-09-2009, 04:15 PM   #5
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I think the people support our soldiers. And that they want whatever needs to be done, done, to protect the soldiers and ourselves. I personally dont feel the president is giving his full attention to his command, including a lack of resources. He is willing to spend one trillion on healthcare, but not 100billion on supplies that soldiers need?
ahoy Jviehe-who-has-me-on-ignore!

mate...

yer just doin' what ye once accused others 'o doin'...usin' the deaths of our brave fightin' men and women to find an avenue to bash the current american president. its disgustin' stuff, me hearty.

mr. obama is committed to vittory in afghanistan.

he has increased the US troop commitment to them troubled waters.

he has done so while sailin' into hostile headwinds from his own party and an american citizenry that could give a rat's arse about our war there. you get it, mate?

americans
do
not
care.

if anythin', i give the president credit fer not wrappin' himself up in the deaths 'o these soldiers to further his own agenda.

Mr. Obama's efforts at an american vittory has been made all the more difficult by a republican party that has gone oddly silent since a new skipper has taken o'er the reigns.

i hate to post somethin' partisan here, but i cannot helps it.

from what i understand, the GOP believes this be a war that our country must see through. it be a war that be crucial to our national security, yet instead of lendin' robust support to the president (somethin' they be loathe to do, even when they are in agreement with him), conservatives like yerself prefer to use this as a wedge issue to weaken our commander and chief.

*spits on the deck*

bah!

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Old 12-09-2009, 04:29 PM   #6
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I have yet to see this on the news. Plenty of talk about two upcoming speeches by Obama, neither of which is about Afghanistan. Luckily there are plenty of good things going on that these soldiers are dying to protect. Also not covered in the MSM.
This bullshit gets refuted again and again and again, and yet someone still hasn't gotten the message.

Pick up a copy of the New York Times. They list every death of every service member in the front section, every day.

Give it a rest finally, hmmm?
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Old 12-09-2009, 06:49 PM   #7
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I have yet to see this on the news. Plenty of talk about two upcoming speeches by Obama, neither of which is about Afghanistan. Luckily there are plenty of good things going on that these soldiers are dying to protect. Also not covered in the MSM.
Ah, for a moment I thought you meant this:

Victims' families tell their stories following Nato airstrike in Afghanistan | World news | The Guardian

But then again, of course not


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Old 12-09-2009, 07:24 PM   #8
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Ah, for a moment I thought you meant this:

Victims' families tell their stories following Nato airstrike in Afghanistan | World news | The Guardian

But then again, of course not


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Talked about it in another thread.
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Old 12-09-2009, 07:29 PM   #9
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I think the people support our soldiers. And that they want whatever needs to be done, done, to protect the soldiers and ourselves. I personally dont feel the president is giving his full attention to his command, including a lack of resources. He is willing to spend one trillion on healthcare, but not 100billion on supplies that soldiers need?
Well, those troops in foreign nations are arguably less important, and I strongly oppose government health care.
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Old 12-10-2009, 05:21 AM   #10
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ahoy Jviehe-who-has-me-on-ignore!

mate...

yer just doin' what ye once accused others 'o doin'...usin' the deaths of our brave fightin' men and women to find an avenue to bash the current american president. its disgustin' stuff, me hearty.

mr. obama is committed to vittory in afghanistan.

he has increased the US troop commitment to them troubled waters.

he has done so while sailin' into hostile headwinds from his own party and an american citizenry that could give a rat's arse about our war there. you get it, mate?

americans
do
not
care.

if anythin', i give the president credit fer not wrappin' himself up in the deaths 'o these soldiers to further his own agenda.

Mr. Obama's efforts at an american vittory has been made all the more difficult by a republican party that has gone oddly silent since a new skipper has taken o'er the reigns.

i hate to post somethin' partisan here, but i cannot helps it.

from what i understand, the GOP believes this be a war that our country must see through. it be a war that be crucial to our national security, yet instead of lendin' robust support to the president (somethin' they be loathe to do, even when they are in agreement with him), conservatives like yerself prefer to use this as a wedge issue to weaken our commander and chief.

*spits on the deck*

bah!

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Jviehe is right to criticize the Obama administration on its handling of the situation in Afghanistan. Obama is over 1/5 of the way thru his term, and it’s been over a year since he said taking the fight to al Qaeda and the Taliban would be his top priority. All he’s done so far is send in some more troops and make some staffing changes while the situation steadily deteriorates. For all his talk of a need for victory in Afghanistan, and I agree we do need to win there, he has yet to come up with victory conditions or a strategy for achieving them. Instead of showing some leadership and acting like the commander-in-chief, he’s wasting his time and energy on health care crap; an issue that should be put off until after our service men and women are out of harm’s way. It’s not simply a partisan attack when even the people over there aren’t sure what the objectives are. The one who really abused it as a wedge issue was Obama, when he used it to look like a tough guy to help him get elected, then bailed on it once in office in favor of partisan politics, leaving our service members high and dry wondering what they’re supposed to be doing aside from being moving targets.
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Old 12-10-2009, 05:51 AM   #11
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Jviehe is right to criticize the Obama administration on its handling of the situation in Afghanistan. Obama is over 1/5 of the way thru his term, and it’s been over a year since he said taking the fight to al Qaeda and the Taliban would be his top priority. All he’s done so far is send in some more troops and make some staffing changes while the situation steadily deteriorates. For all his talk of a need for victory in Afghanistan, and I agree we do need to win there, he has yet to come up with victory conditions or a strategy for achieving them. Instead of showing some leadership and acting like the commander-in-chief, he’s wasting his time and energy on health care crap; an issue that should be put off until after our service men and women are out of harm’s way. It’s not simply a partisan attack when even the people over there aren’t sure what the objectives are. The one who really abused it as a wedge issue was Obama, when he used it to look like a tough guy to help him get elected, then bailed on it once in office in favor of partisan politics, leaving our service members high and dry wondering what they’re supposed to be doing aside from being moving targets.
*frowns as his ambien dissolves in his gullet*

ahoy mate!

CYDharta, aye...

i agree that thus far that the Obama administration has not yet been able to find an acceptable way to conclude our mighty nation's war in Afghanistan.

in seven years, the previous adminstration grappled with the numerous difficulties that had nettled its efforts to bring stability to this key part 'o the world. imma willin' to give mr. Obama more than seven months or so to find a way to navigate a path to vittory here.

his position be difficult, though.

his own captains on the bridge, Carl Levin and Nancy Pelosi be in a mutinous mood. the other crew that make up the bulk 'o the democratic party have yet to coalesce behind the embattled president on this issue.

the news from General McChyrstal has been less than encouragin'.

the recent elections have been troublin' too.

the Afghani soldiers trained to aid our fightin' men and women seem somewhat useless...somethin' imma hard pressed to blame our commander and chief for.

NATO doesn't seem to be pitchin' in...somethin' they didn't do for the now departed George Bush, either.

ontop 'o all that, America itself seems somewhat disengaged from our pursuits in that troubled region 'o the world, to say the least, aye? if our president tried to raise taxes to pay fer this war, he'd be keelhauled by the public, imma sure.

Mr. Obama be uppin' our commitment in force to almost seventy thousand and he's reviewin' his options. imma no expert, far from it me friend...but i do not see any easy or quick answers. still...i feel this war be a crucial one fer our land, and imma goin' to wait a bit longer to see if a solution can be found.

regardin' the flag wavin' Jviehe, who uttered these self aggrandizin' words..."I have not been doing a good job as an American in being personally aware of the cost of freedom"...

oh sweet jeebus, spare me...

*hurls his cutlass into the deck*

i find his usin' what was supposed to be a tribute and reminder 'o the cost of american life in our struggles to also attack the president, grotesque and disingenuous. the worst kinda political opportunism. at least the long departed Samantha never resorted to such bad taste in her mention 'o the fallen in her similar "tribute" threads.

AYE!

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Old 12-10-2009, 07:32 AM   #12
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*frowns as his ambien dissolves in his gullet*

ahoy mate!

CYDharta, aye...

i agree that thus far that the Obama administration has not yet been able to find an acceptable way to conclude our mighty nation's war in Afghanistan.

in seven years, the previous adminstration grappled with the numerous difficulties that had nettled its efforts to bring stability to this key part 'o the world. imma willin' to give mr. Obama more than seven months or so to find a way to navigate a path to vittory here.

his position be difficult, though.

his own captains on the bridge, Carl Levin and Nancy Pelosi be in a mutinous mood. the other crew that make up the bulk 'o the democratic party have yet to coalesce behind the embattled president on this issue.

the news from General McChyrstal has been less than encouragin'.

the recent elections have been troublin' too.

the Afghani soldiers trained to aid our fightin' men and women seem somewhat useless...somethin' imma hard pressed to blame our commander and chief for.

NATO doesn't seem to be pitchin' in...somethin' they didn't do for the now departed George Bush, either.

ontop 'o all that, America itself seems somewhat disengaged from our pursuits in that troubled region 'o the world, to say the least, aye? if our president tried to raise taxes to pay fer this war, he'd be keelhauled by the public, imma sure.

Mr. Obama be uppin' our commitment in force to almost seventy thousand and he's reviewin' his options. imma no expert, far from it me friend...but i do not see any easy or quick answers. still...i feel this war be a crucial one fer our land, and imma goin' to wait a bit longer to see if a solution can be found.

regardin' the flag wavin' Jviehe, who uttered these self aggrandizin' words..."I have not been doing a good job as an American in being personally aware of the cost of freedom"...

oh sweet jeebus, spare me...

*hurls his cutlass into the deck*

i find his usin' what was supposed to be a tribute and reminder 'o the cost of american life in our struggles to also attack the president, grotesque and disingenuous. the worst kinda political opportunism. at least the long departed Samantha never resorted to such bad taste in her mention 'o the fallen in her similar posts.

AYE!

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Afghanistan was under control for most of the previous administration. Bush got battered for not having enough of a plan for getting out of Iraq long after the benchmarks were published. Also, he didn’t use the situation to get elected; because in 2000, it wasn’t much of an issue. Obama chided Bush for not paying enough attention to Afghanistan, campaigned on making it a top priority; then put it on the back burner once he got into the White House. He talked about implementing a Marshall Plan in Afghanistan, but that’s all he’s done.

This bit about “well, he’s only been in office for…” doesn’t wash. He’s nearly a quarter of the way thru his term, and he has yet to deal with this situation in any meaningful way. If he has enough time on his hands to come up with a healthcare reform plan over a thousand pages long, he’s had more than enough time to let our service members know what he expects them to accomplish. And if he were paying more attention to what was going on in Afghanistan, you can bet the American public would be, too. Obama can get a trillion dollars from the American people to fund his healthcare, there’s no way to use the excuse that he couldn’t get the public to back him in “a war that we have to win”. The President is neglecting our troops as they’re fighting a war he claims he supports, and Jviehe is right to call him on it.
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Old 12-10-2009, 07:56 AM   #13
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The President is neglecting our troops as they’re fighting a war he claims he supports, and Jviehe is right to call him on it.
*considers*

hail CYDdharta,

i don't disagree with what yer sayin' completely, mate. though mr. obama hasn't been in office that long, he has had some time at the helm fer certain. certainly his stated objective dovetailed with that of our former president...
"The interest," Bush said then, "is to build a flourishing democracy as an alternative to a hateful ideology." Obama Sets More Modest Goals For Afghanistan : NPR

whether that is, or ever was possible be somethin' fer Mr. Obama to now decide...though he has stated that his objective be that 'o Mr. Bush's.

also, though he's had only 1/5 'o his term to tend to the matter, it feels like its been eight years, since indeed 'tis been that long fer the nation to have endured this conflict.

i disagree that the president isn't attendin' to the issue. though his current push with the mateys that people our great land be fer health care reform, i just don't find it credible to posit that Secretary Gates and President Obama are not fully engaged on the issue. if thats what ye thinks, then i can respect yer opinion...i just happen to be disagreein' with ye.

regardin' Jviehe's sanctimony and self-importance on his, "I have not been doing a good job as an american...", he can save it. the dead who've fallen servin' our nation can have thar respect and honor without Jviehe's navel gazin' on his own shortcomings.

a tribute thread that names the fallen is not the place to bash the president's healthcare reform agenda. it reeks 'o usin' the dead to push his own glee at bashing the commander in chief. if you think that this be the place to do so, i've no quarrel with you, me friend. i 'spose we each have own view on this sorta thing...

but i think this "tribute" be completely phony.

imma sorry to come out like this, imma not the excitable sort...but this "tribute" strikes me as horseshit.

*lifts anchor and departs this thread*

*bows*

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Old 04-01-2010, 10:43 PM   #14
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Afghanistan was under control for most of the previous administration...
*sails back onto this awful thread fer a rebuttal*

*clears his throat*

ahoy CYDharta!

matey, as Afghanistan again recedes from public view (because americans don't care 'bout it), i found a report that seems to contradict yer statement. when ye made this remark, i wondered how true it was, but didn't address it at the time.

i will now, though.

the previous administration seemingly didn't have Afghanistan "under control", as ye put it, and i've a pretty good source;
the US ARMY. aye!!!!!

In the fall of 2003, the new commander of American forces in Afghanistan, Lt. Gen. David W. Barno, decided on a new strategy. Known as counterinsurgency, the approach required coalition forces to work closely with Afghan leaders to stabilize entire regions, rather than simply attacking insurgent cells.
But there was a major drawback, a new unpublished Army history of the war concludes. Because the Pentagon insisted on maintaining a “small footprint” in Afghanistan and because Iraq was drawing away resources, General Barno commanded fewer than 20,000 troops.

As a result, battalions with 800 soldiers were trying to secure provinces the size of Vermont. “Coalition forces remained thinly spread across Afghanistan,” the historians write. “Much of the country remained vulnerable to enemy forces increasingly willing to reassert their power.”

That early and undermanned effort to use counterinsurgency is one of several examples of how American forces, hamstrung by inadequate resources, missed opportunities to stabilize Afghanistan during the early years of the war, according to the history, “A Different Kind of War.” http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/31/wo...0report&st=cse

readin' this report made me more sympathetic to the current administration's deliberations in chartin' the proper course this past year.

the report be quite critical 'o how president Bush and his officers handled things, 'tis no wonder it took several months fer our new president how to handle this mismanaged conflict.

*salute*

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Old 04-02-2010, 05:52 AM   #15
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...and he still makes a lot more sense than you, matey, that be the truth of it.
Arrrrhh!!! You can say that again!

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Old 08-29-2012, 09:08 AM   #16
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Afghanistan was under control for most of the previous administration. Bush got battered for not having enough of a plan for getting out of Iraq long after the benchmarks were published. Also, he didn’t use the situation to get elected; because in 2000, it wasn’t much of an issue. Obama chided Bush for not paying enough attention to Afghanistan, campaigned on making it a top priority; then put it on the back burner once he got into the White House. He talked about implementing a Marshall Plan in Afghanistan, but that’s all he’s done.

This bit about “well, he’s only been in office for…” doesn’t wash. He’s nearly a quarter of the way thru his term, and he has yet to deal with this situation in any meaningful way. If he has enough time on his hands to come up with a healthcare reform plan over a thousand pages long, he’s had more than enough time to let our service members know what he expects them to accomplish. And if he were paying more attention to what was going on in Afghanistan, you can bet the American public would be, too. Obama can get a trillion dollars from the American people to fund his healthcare, there’s no way to use the excuse that he couldn’t get the public to back him in “a war that we have to win”. The President is neglecting our troops as they’re fighting a war he claims he supports, and Jviehe is right to call him on it.
Dude, your talking to a guy who speak like a pirate.
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Old 08-29-2012, 09:09 AM   #17
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Dude, your talking to a guy who speak like a pirate.
...and he still makes a lot more sense than you, matey, that be the truth of it.
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