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Old 11-11-2008, 04:18 PM   #1
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Default Obama Concealed Terrorist Ties
I have often said that no one really knows Obama's true intentions, because he has skillfully evaded giving direct answers during his campaign, and was able to deceive the American voters with the aid of the Leftist press.

Now the Arab press reports that Obama's advisors concealed their meetings and connections with the terrorist group Hamas, specifically to ensure that Americans would remain unaware of their actions as election day approached.

As for the substance of the Obama talks with Hamas -- before and after the elections -- the suggestion that Hamas will renounce terrorism and recognize Israel's right to exist, is actually the Bush administration's longstanding policy. I don't believe that Obama is dealing with Hamas to reiterate the Bush policy. Instead, I believe that Obama is scheming to arrive at a formula to break the embargo on Hamas that will not require Hamas to change its ways.

But the bigger question is whether Obama's supporters would have voted any differently knowing that he was meeting with a terrorist group dedicated to mass-murdering Jews? I think not.

Obama's core group of supporters couldn't care less if Obama considered the Rev. Wright to be his uncle for 20 years, or if Obama maintained connections with domestic terrorist Bill Ayers, or even if Obama was a charter member of al Qaeda, so long as he was willing to "redistribute" Americans' wealth to his voters. The Obama victory was never about policies or principles.

This election was also not about making history in a positive way. It was about making history with record-breaking deception and voter fraud. IMO, the latest story of Obama deception is the first of many that will pop up as time passes.

My guess is that once we find out about the things Obama's supporters did to manipulate the vote, we will find that he may not have exactly earned his 2% majority.

From news article:
Report: Hamas says its officials met Obama aides before U.S. election

By Avi Issacharoff, Haaretz Correspondent

Tags: Israel News, Hamas

The Arab daily Al-Hayat on Tuesday quoted a senior Hamas official as saying that United States President-elect Barack Obama's advisors met with members of the Palestinian militant group before the U.S. presidential election.

Ahmed Yusuf, a political advisor to Hamas' Gaza leader Ismail Haniyeh, reportedly told the London-based paper that, "The connection was made via email and after that we met with them in Gaza."

Al-Hayat reported that Yusuf also said the relations were maintained after Obama's electoral victory last Tuesday. He said the president-elect's advisors requested that the relations be kept secret so as not to aid his rival, Senator John McCain.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1036364.html
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Old 11-11-2008, 04:57 PM   #2
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I doubt anyone from Obama's camp talked to Hamas. Hamas, is just stirring the waters.....
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Old 11-11-2008, 05:36 PM   #3
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I doubt anyone from Obama's camp talked to Hamas. Hamas, is just stirring the waters.....
Do you believe the 78% figure?
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Old 11-11-2008, 07:35 PM   #4
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Very much. My wife works in a Synagogue on the North Shore (very rich shoel), she is a Hebrew teacher at a Sunday school...

She is teaching 9th grade students now. Part of the curriculum is to create "Future Jewish Leaders" so as an exercise they held a presidential debate. The class split - one side took Obama and the other took McCain. The kids who had to take McCain side were very upset and wanted to change sides... Not that they really had much to say for Obama, besides "Change", but whatever they did came from their parents. This is a synagogue in Lake Forest, Illinois. Lake Forest is where MJ used to live when Bulls were worth something. She said almost everyone in the synagogue voted Obama.

Most of the Russian Jews voted McCain - that I can guarantee. But we are not much of a demographic and most importantly are spread over many different places around the country. They should have polled on Brighton Beach....
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Old 11-11-2008, 07:47 PM   #5
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In fact I believe most of the voters, including Jewish, are simply very un-educated as voters. At least here whoever is for and against - at least we debate!!!!

Andak, for example, has a constructive opinion - we don't agree - but then it's okay - it's a America. I know people who are not interested at all and voted for Obama just because - because he is for change! A friend's of mine opinion on the matter is that Obama is for "Change" and that Palin killed all wolves in Alaska. Only a few people watch the debates or even visit the easily accessible candidate websites - they just vote. Obama vote is a hip thing to do..... I just hope America made a right decision but they said the same about Reagan.
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Old 11-13-2008, 08:22 AM   #6
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By Yala:

They were actively campaigning for him at their synagogues which is illegal

They have local politicians come in and "talk" very often - I will not mention names. The director of the Sunday school had an "Obama" poster hanging in the cabinet.
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Old 11-13-2008, 02:19 PM   #7
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By Dorothy:

Where there is freedom to be noisey and argumentative, there might be opportunity to reach different conclusions.

I agree but it's not the only factor. Education is another. I don't care whom you vote for - it's America - but you need to be argumentative enough, at least with your own self, to make your decision. Most voters are simply not good educated voters.
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Old 11-13-2008, 07:01 PM   #8
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Will see.
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Old 11-14-2008, 04:04 PM   #9
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As of today, while Obama maintains his ties to Hamas, the terrorist group is in the process of launching rockets and missiles directly into Israeli population centers. Looks like Obama's strategy of talking to Muslim terrorists without preconditions is working out just fine...
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Old 11-14-2008, 04:07 PM   #10
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Andak, for example, has a constructive opinion - we don't agree - but then it's okay - it's a America.
Yes, he believes in Socialism and wants America to be a Socialist country. He's also a fundamentalist Muslim. Those two reasons make him a natural Obama supporter. Why work for your money when President Hussein Obama promises to steal it from other Americans and give it to you?

All reform Jews voted Obama. They were actively campaigning for him at their synagogues which is illegal, but I still believe the 78% is complete nonsense. 99% of the Russian Jews, 99% of Ultra Orthodox, 99% of Modern Orthodox + 95% of Sephardic Jews + 99% of alta cackers who voted for McCain = more than 22% easy.
I'm not sure about the Reform Jews, as I attended High Holiday services with a Reform congregation this year, and saw many people I knew who are definitely not Obama supporters.

You're probably right that there is a high rate of support for Obama among the Reform, as you say, but I would repeat that basically no Jews with whom I'm familiar voted for Obama, except for a handful. So, I agree that the 78% figure is completely false.
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Old 12-12-2008, 06:42 AM   #11
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All reform Jews voted Obama. They were actively campaigning for him at their synagogues which is illegal, but I still believe the 78% is complete nonsense. 99% of the Russian Jews, 99% of Ultra Orthodox, 99% of Modern Orthodox + 95% of Sephardic Jews + 99% of alta cackers who voted for McCain = more than 22% easy.
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