[Dabdklwu]

I was wondering what currently serving members of military think of the ‘Indefinite Detention’ applying to American citizens? As a former criminal defense attorney, it worries me. It would worry me if Bush or Obama were in charge. This is an extremely dangerous road to go down, especially if the occupant of the White House and Defense Department view the Constitution as an obstacle to be circumvented.
‘Indefinite Detention’ Bill Heads To Obama’s Desk As White House Drops Veto Threat
Establishment media and neo-cons still pretend NDAA doesn’t apply to American citizens
Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
Wednesday, December 14, 2011
UPDATE: Obama has dropped his threat to veto the bill and is now expected to sign it into law. Remember – it was Obama’s White House that demanded the law apply to U.S. citizens in the first place.
The bill which would codify into law the indefinite detention without trial of American citizens is about to be passed and sent to Obama’s desk to be signed into law, even as some news outlets still erroneously report that the legislation does not apply to U.S. citizens…..

[gardenerextraordinaire]

I was wondering what currently serving members of military think of the ‘Indefinite Detention’ applying to American citizens? As a former criminal defense attorney, it worries me. It would worry me if Bush or Obama were in charge. This is an extremely dangerous road to go down, especially if the occupant of the White House and Defense Department view the Constitution as an obstacle to be circumvented.
‘Indefinite Detention’ Bill Heads To Obama’s Desk As White House Drops Veto Threat
Establishment media and neo-cons still pretend NDAA doesn’t apply to American citizens
Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
Wednesday, December 14, 2011
UPDATE: Obama has dropped his threat to veto the bill and is now expected to sign it into law. Remember – it was Obama’s White House that demanded the law apply to U.S. citizens in the first place.
The bill which would codify into law the indefinite detention without trial of American citizens is about to be passed and sent to Obama’s desk to be signed into law, even as some news outlets still erroneously report that the legislation does not apply to U.S. citizens…..

The US needs Ron Paul more than ever before if Obama signs this bill. And I am scared to death of where this is going to lead if Newt or Obama wins next year. This is worse than Obamacare mandate, or SS, or Medicare, or the unending war on terrorism around the world.

[derty]

The US needs Ron Paul more than ever before if Obama signs this bill. And I am scared to death of where this is going to lead if Newt or Obama wins next year. This is worse than Obamacare mandate, or SS, or Medicare, or the unending war on terrorism around the world.

Thank you. I would not worry about Dr. Paul either in this regard. Newt also scares me because he does know how to do the work around the protections built in the Constitution. When would a person detained get any kind of hearing to determine if probable cause existed? How would attorneys know if a citizen(s) is/are being detained? What are the checks? How are enemies of the state vs. enemies of a politician determined? When does criticism of a President become serious enough to be classified as a terrorist? Didn't Homeland Security want to keep an eye on the 'tea party' and returning veterans as possible terrorists?

Yes, I too am very concerned where this could lead.

[aNoBVsUW]

I was wondering what currently serving members of military think of the ‘Indefinite Detention’ applying to American citizens? As a former criminal defense attorney, it worries me. It would worry me if Bush or Obama were in charge. This is an extremely dangerous road to go down, especially if the occupant of the White House and Defense Department view the Constitution as an obstacle to be circumvented.
‘Indefinite Detention’ Bill Heads To Obama’s Desk As White House Drops Veto Threat
Establishment media and neo-cons still pretend NDAA doesn’t apply to American citizens
Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
Wednesday, December 14, 2011
UPDATE: Obama has dropped his threat to veto the bill and is now expected to sign it into law. Remember – it was Obama’s White House that demanded the law apply to U.S. citizens in the first place.
The bill which would codify into law the indefinite detention without trial of American citizens is about to be passed and sent to Obama’s desk to be signed into law, even as some news outlets still erroneously report that the legislation does not apply to U.S. citizens…..

I think it's an utter travesty.

[timgreyuvcz]

Thank you. I would not worry about Dr. Paul either in this regard. Newt also scares me because he does know how to do the work around the protections built in the Constitution. When would a person detained get any kind of hearing to determine if probable cause existed? How would attorneys know if a citizen(s) is/are being detained? What are the checks? How are enemies of the state vs. enemies of a politician determined? When does criticism of a President become serious enough to be classified as a terrorist? Didn't Homeland Security want to keep an eye on the 'tea party' and returning veterans as possible terrorists?

Yes, I too am very concerned where this could lead.

As Rand Paul brought up in his fight against this bill, having 7 days worth of food storage or owning of a gun can get you categorized as a terrorist. And even with the precident of Anwar, just talking can get you classified as a terrorist.

[weightpillsnow]

And there goes our freedoms to the Dictator in chief that is willing to subvert the congress to do what ever he deems necessary to get America going again. YAY for belonging to a facist state under the self proclaimed Nationalist with the actions of a socialist. I guess we can just call Obama, "Das Fur Obama" now.

[RLRWai4B]

As Rand Paul brought up in his fight against this bill, having 7 days worth of food storage or owning of a gun can get you categorized as a terrorist. And even with the precident of Anwar, just talking can get you classified as a terrorist.

Can't remember which radio show I was listening to the other day when they were referring to the "Occupy" protesters as "domestic terrorists"

How is it that people can not see how bad this is?

[Anaerbguagree]

Can't remember which radio show I was listening to the other day when they were referring to the "Occupy" protesters as "domestic terrorists"

How is it that people can not see how bad this is?

Simple answer is they "know" they're not a terrorist and can't imagine how anyone else might perceive them that way, even as the excuses for the labeling are getting much more questionable over the last decade. Not real strong on the concept of "incremental" sacrifices of liberties from my perspective but that's just an opinion, I'm sure at least half of em think I'm nuts anyways.

[brorialsibers]

Simple answer is they "know" they're not a terrorist and can't imagine how anyone else might perceive them that way, even as the excuses for the labeling are getting much more questionable over the last decade. Not real strong on the concept of "incremental" sacrifices of liberties from my perspective but that's just an opinion, I'm sure at least half of em think I'm nuts anyways.

First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.


~Martin Niemöller

[pobrierce]

First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.


~Martin Niemöller

I love that quote.

[gorbasevhuynani]

First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.


~Martin Niemöller

Why are you quoting terrorists? Pretty suspicious. *dials FBI hotline*