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Old 02-26-2011, 04:02 AM   #1
sauppyshurb

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But, yes, this would be a sadistically perfect question for the bar.
What "Bar" are you two on about?

The question is one of changing from first come first serve to a eugenically based system that assigns organs based on the perception of "worth" a person has. I'd thrown in any number of quotes (Margaret Sanger comes to mind) but let's honestly think this through shall we...

How would we determine "worth" in some bizarre system in which a "hot or not" equation were applied to organ transplants? We know historically that such choices were defined along racial lines (ie, think of the Doc that invented blood transfusions and bled to death because the "black" hospital was farther away than the "white" hosipital). We know today, what with genetic-modeling, some parents would seek certain attributes in their prospective embryos. So rest assured, if "worth" is applied to transplants it will be precisely criteria like these that factor into the equation at the expense of percieved "undesirables"...which might include you in that number.

Who determines that "worth"? What determines that "worth"? I know that in this bizarre suicide cult we live in we continually design ways to devalue life but seriously, how do you quantify someone's "worth" as a life?

Is first come first serve sterile and cold? Yes. But realistically it is the only way to ensure anything approaching fairness with a subject like this. All great points. What i think the people pushing the bill were trying to get at, is why give a perfectly good organ (kidney) to a 50 yr old who by their lifestyle will have only 20 yrs left of life, when i can give it to the 20 yr old who has 45 good years left.

What's wrong with...sickest first? What is so unfair about that?

Is it "fair" to give the organ to an 89 year old man in a hospice who has been waiting for 12 years, but could probably go another 4...and let an 11 year old who has 3 months to live die? That doesn't sound "fair" to me...
Thats the thing though.. WHO gets to make the determination of whether 'sickest' is better than longest on list? HOW do they make that determination?
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Old 02-26-2011, 04:11 AM   #2
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What "Bar" are you two on about?
I was talking about a drinking bar...I think cali had something else in mind.

Thats the thing though.. WHO gets to make the determination of whether 'sickest' is better than longest on list? HOW do they make that determination? This is a professional medical judgement that doctors and nurses make every day.
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Old 02-26-2011, 07:26 AM   #3
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I could use a new liver...
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