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**Edwardthe_third** · 10-05-2010, 01:40 AM

'Screw with Their Faith and They Will Kill You': The Strange, Obsessively Anti-Government Sovereign Citizen Movement Makes a Comeback

By Justine Sharrock, AlterNet

Posted on September 23, 2010, Printed on October 4, 2010

Read the article here:http://www.alternet.org/story/148290...kes_a_comeback

**ManHolDenPoker** · 10-05-2010, 04:09 AM

Interesting... Makes me wonder how some of these 'soverign citizens' have stayed out of jail with the latter part of that report showing several of them have shot cops.

**allachakb** · 10-05-2010, 04:21 AM

'Screw with Their Faith and They Will Kill You': The Strange, Obsessively Anti-Government Sovereign Citizen Movement Makes a Comeback

By Justine Sharrock, AlterNet

Posted on September 23, 2010, Printed on October 4, 2010

Read the article here:http://www.alternet.org/story/148290...kes_a_comeback

Seriously, do you work for OFA? Is your entire existence here devoted to sptrying to paint tea party people as anti government militants?

You're a hack.

**gusunsuth** · 10-05-2010, 04:37 AM

Seriously, do you work for OFA? Is your entire existence here devoted to sptrying to paint tea party people as anti government militants?

You're a hack.

These guys make the Tea Party look like amateurs!

**wooclosmercob** · 10-05-2010, 04:48 AM

These guys make the Tea Party look like amateurs!

Maybe because the tea party isn't. Anti government, they are small government.

Educate yourself.

**dxpfmP0l** · 10-05-2010, 05:00 AM

Read the title and thought it was about muslims.

Saw it was from corny, and realized it was more BS

**Lauramalina** · 10-05-2010, 05:02 AM

Maybe because the tea party isn't. Anti government, they are small government.

Educate yourself.

Actually, I didn't associate these people with the Tea Party - YOU did. I was presenting the real Fringe Right in all their glory, and the author made mention of the Tea Party, but the Tea Party is "Wanna Be" in comparison with this group. However, the Tea Party could grow into a semblance of this group, but they are too "Pantywaist" to be anything like this group.

**euylvaygdq** · 10-05-2010, 05:09 AM

Actually, I didn't associate these people with the Tea Party - YOU did. I was presenting the real Fringe Right in all their glory, and the author made mention of the Tea Party, but the Tea Party is "Wanna Be" in comparison with this group. However, the Tea Party could grow into a semblance of this group, but they are too "Pantywaist" to be anything like this group.

Actually by posting this article that associates these people with the tea party, you associate them by proxy. You saying that the tea party is a wanna be panty waist version of them shows your usual ignorance that discredits you.

**Abraham** · 10-05-2010, 05:21 AM

How about that 10/2/10 rally corny? Did you make it there? Or was there no seat for you on a Union bus?

**VZF74G0M** · 10-05-2010, 05:29 AM

Actually by posting this article that associates these people with the tea party, you associate them by proxy. You saying that the tea party is a wanna be panty waist version of them shows your usual ignorance that discredits you.

Typically, you discredit yourself by trying to heap discredit on those you disagree with. This you show by equating their opinion with Ignorance, saying - in effect - that only ignorant people can have such opinions.

**putza** · 10-05-2010, 05:48 AM

Typically, you discredit yourself by trying to heap discredit on those you disagree with. This you show by equating their opinion with Ignorance, saying - in effect - that only ignorant people can have such opinions.

Actually I equate your opinion with the fact that you are uninformed. Guess what word that defines? If you actually showed an ounce of insight things might be different.

**WertyNtont** · 10-05-2010, 05:53 AM

No, I didn't make this one, although I've been to many others through the years. I did help organize the Transport Worker's Union contingent. I watched it on C-SPAN 2, and was glad that I didn't go since I wouldn't have enjoyed standing up for such a long period of time. These events are for the young. I will be working at my local Election Polling Station on Election Day, and have been registering people to vote.

**Obenuearema** · 10-05-2010, 05:59 AM

Actually I equate your opinion with the fact that you are uninformed. Guess what word that defines? If you actually showed an ounce of insight things might be different.

I am far from being uninformed, but I do choose for myself which side to believe, and it will never be your side. You display a lot of hubris when you display such behavior.

**insightmike** · 10-05-2010, 06:07 AM

I am far from being uninformed, but I do choose for myself which side to believe, and it will never be your side. You display a lot of hubris when you display such behavior.

If you are far from being uninformed, its not in the direction of being educated. I have yet to see you offer a worthwhile post from you that is insightful, well tthought or INFORMED. You read like an OFA pamphlet and you sound like a union propagandist. You show a blatant lack of knowlege for the most basic political mechanics. Its not hubris, its a statement of fact.

**osteoftex** · 10-05-2010, 06:20 AM

If you are far from being uninformed, its not in the direction of being educated. I have yet to see you offer a worthwhile post from you that is insightful, well tthought or INFORMED. You read like an OFA pamphlet and you sound like a union propagandist. You show a blatant lack of knowlege for the most basic political mechanics. Its not hubris, its a statement of fact.

That is because you view youthful hubris as being the height of intelligence. Just because we believe different things doesn't make you any more intelligent or knowledgeable than I am.

**Jifyicyfuhpop** · 10-05-2010, 01:37 PM

No, I didn't make this one, although I've been to many others through the years. I did help organize the Transport Worker's Union contingent. I watched it on C-SPAN 2, and was glad that I didn't go since I wouldn't have enjoyed standing up for such a long period of time. These events are for the young. I will be working at my local Election Polling Station on Election Day, and have been registering people to vote.

I am far from being uninformed, but I do choose for myself which side to believe, and it will never be your side. You display a lot of hubris when you display such behavior.

Ok Mr. Informed person. While watching the rally then, whos rally was bigger? The left says 10/2/10 was bigger or equalled 8/28 (29). Do you believe what they said? That is not the only thing the left flat out LIES about when it comes to the words they speak.

**f29sXS07** · 10-05-2010, 03:31 PM

That is because you view youthful hubris as being the height of intelligence. Just because we believe different things doesn't make you any more intelligent or knowledgeable than I am.

Youre right, it doesnt. That is why I can disagree with others on here and still respect their opinion. To me, it is all about how someone arrives at a particular conclusion that counts...in an exchange of ideas. I do not respect the opinion of someone who forms it based on whatever a particular group decides for them. Like I said, you read like a pamphlet and you show a lack of knowledge of even the most basic political terms. Its not that we disagree, its that you are clueless. Ask CrewChick if I have called her ignorant, or LOAL-D or some other pretty smart folks on these board who happen to subscribe to a different political ideology than I do. Just because you dont fit into the smart group doesnt mean I think everyone who shares your ideology to be stupid. If you actually read some of my posts (I know it is not your style to read disagreeing opinions) you would see that from time to time I ask my own questions of others to find out something I dont know. Do not confuse my confidence in my intelligence or my point of view with hubris or the assumption that I know everything or am at "the height of intelligence". That observation of yours again proves that you do not know what you speak of...again defining the word IGNORANT.

And you are proof that age does not necessarily equate wisdom.

**sadgpokx** · 10-05-2010, 03:55 PM

Maybe because I have never really heard them from CorneliusSeaon himself, but I would like for you to tell me what you actually believe in Corn? Don't link an article of what you believe, or cut and paste from someones blog, but in your own words;

what do you believe we need to do for this nation?

What do you want to see for the US to get back to economically sound times?

Who is at fault and why?

How can we fix it?

Where did we go wrong?

When did it start going wrong?

What is your true opinion please?

**ulw7A8Po** · 10-05-2010, 04:20 PM

I have this urge to post US Title 18 in its entirety. Not that it in the least bit relevant but just because it seems to be the thing to do........

**Ecurrexchangess** · 10-05-2010, 04:32 PM

I have this urge to post US Title 18 in its entirety. Not that it in the least bit relevant but just because it seems to be the thing to do........

LMAO!

10-05-2010, 01:40 AM	#1
Edwardthe_third Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 340 Senior Member	'Screw with Their Faith and They Will Kill You' 'Screw with Their Faith and They Will Kill You': The Strange, Obsessively Anti-Government Sovereign Citizen Movement Makes a Comeback By Justine Sharrock, AlterNet Posted on September 23, 2010, Printed on October 4, 2010 Read the article here:http://www.alternet.org/story/148290...kes_a_comeback Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-05-2010, 04:09 AM	#2
ManHolDenPoker Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 454 Senior Member	Interesting... Makes me wonder how some of these 'soverign citizens' have stayed out of jail with the latter part of that report showing several of them have shot cops. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-05-2010, 04:21 AM	#3
allachakb Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 500 Senior Member	'Screw with Their Faith and They Will Kill You': The Strange, Obsessively Anti-Government Sovereign Citizen Movement Makes a Comeback By Justine Sharrock, AlterNet Posted on September 23, 2010, Printed on October 4, 2010 Read the article here:http://www.alternet.org/story/148290...kes_a_comeback Seriously, do you work for OFA? Is your entire existence here devoted to sptrying to paint tea party people as anti government militants? You're a hack. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-05-2010, 04:37 AM	#4
gusunsuth Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 495 Senior Member	Seriously, do you work for OFA? Is your entire existence here devoted to sptrying to paint tea party people as anti government militants? You're a hack. These guys make the Tea Party look like amateurs! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-05-2010, 04:48 AM	#5
wooclosmercob Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 457 Senior Member	These guys make the Tea Party look like amateurs! Maybe because the tea party isn't. Anti government, they are small government. Educate yourself. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-05-2010, 05:00 AM	#6
dxpfmP0l Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 405 Senior Member	Read the title and thought it was about muslims. Saw it was from corny, and realized it was more BS Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-05-2010, 05:02 AM	#7
Lauramalina Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 461 Senior Member	Maybe because the tea party isn't. Anti government, they are small government. Educate yourself. Actually, I didn't associate these people with the Tea Party - YOU did. I was presenting the real Fringe Right in all their glory, and the author made mention of the Tea Party, but the Tea Party is "Wanna Be" in comparison with this group. However, the Tea Party could grow into a semblance of this group, but they are too "Pantywaist" to be anything like this group. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-05-2010, 05:09 AM	#8
euylvaygdq Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 624 Senior Member	Actually, I didn't associate these people with the Tea Party - YOU did. I was presenting the real Fringe Right in all their glory, and the author made mention of the Tea Party, but the Tea Party is "Wanna Be" in comparison with this group. However, the Tea Party could grow into a semblance of this group, but they are too "Pantywaist" to be anything like this group. Actually by posting this article that associates these people with the tea party, you associate them by proxy. You saying that the tea party is a wanna be panty waist version of them shows your usual ignorance that discredits you. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-05-2010, 05:21 AM	#9
Abraham Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 591 Senior Member	How about that 10/2/10 rally corny? Did you make it there? Or was there no seat for you on a Union bus? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-05-2010, 05:29 AM	#10
VZF74G0M Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 518 Senior Member	Actually by posting this article that associates these people with the tea party, you associate them by proxy. You saying that the tea party is a wanna be panty waist version of them shows your usual ignorance that discredits you. Typically, you discredit yourself by trying to heap discredit on those you disagree with. This you show by equating their opinion with Ignorance, saying - in effect - that only ignorant people can have such opinions. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-05-2010, 05:48 AM	#11
putza Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 383 Senior Member	Typically, you discredit yourself by trying to heap discredit on those you disagree with. This you show by equating their opinion with Ignorance, saying - in effect - that only ignorant people can have such opinions. Actually I equate your opinion with the fact that you are uninformed. Guess what word that defines? If you actually showed an ounce of insight things might be different. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-05-2010, 05:53 AM	#12
WertyNtont Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 481 Senior Member	No, I didn't make this one, although I've been to many others through the years. I did help organize the Transport Worker's Union contingent. I watched it on C-SPAN 2, and was glad that I didn't go since I wouldn't have enjoyed standing up for such a long period of time. These events are for the young. I will be working at my local Election Polling Station on Election Day, and have been registering people to vote. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-05-2010, 05:59 AM	#13
Obenuearema Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 442 Senior Member	Actually I equate your opinion with the fact that you are uninformed. Guess what word that defines? If you actually showed an ounce of insight things might be different. I am far from being uninformed, but I do choose for myself which side to believe, and it will never be your side. You display a lot of hubris when you display such behavior. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-05-2010, 06:07 AM	#14
insightmike Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 529 Senior Member	I am far from being uninformed, but I do choose for myself which side to believe, and it will never be your side. You display a lot of hubris when you display such behavior. If you are far from being uninformed, its not in the direction of being educated. I have yet to see you offer a worthwhile post from you that is insightful, well tthought or INFORMED. You read like an OFA pamphlet and you sound like a union propagandist. You show a blatant lack of knowlege for the most basic political mechanics. Its not hubris, its a statement of fact. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-05-2010, 06:20 AM	#15
osteoftex Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 542 Senior Member	If you are far from being uninformed, its not in the direction of being educated. I have yet to see you offer a worthwhile post from you that is insightful, well tthought or INFORMED. You read like an OFA pamphlet and you sound like a union propagandist. You show a blatant lack of knowlege for the most basic political mechanics. Its not hubris, its a statement of fact. That is because you view youthful hubris as being the height of intelligence. Just because we believe different things doesn't make you any more intelligent or knowledgeable than I am. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-05-2010, 01:37 PM	#16
Jifyicyfuhpop Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 448 Senior Member	No, I didn't make this one, although I've been to many others through the years. I did help organize the Transport Worker's Union contingent. I watched it on C-SPAN 2, and was glad that I didn't go since I wouldn't have enjoyed standing up for such a long period of time. These events are for the young. I will be working at my local Election Polling Station on Election Day, and have been registering people to vote. I am far from being uninformed, but I do choose for myself which side to believe, and it will never be your side. You display a lot of hubris when you display such behavior. Ok Mr. Informed person. While watching the rally then, whos rally was bigger? The left says 10/2/10 was bigger or equalled 8/28 (29). Do you believe what they said? That is not the only thing the left flat out LIES about when it comes to the words they speak. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-05-2010, 03:31 PM	#17
f29sXS07 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 464 Senior Member	That is because you view youthful hubris as being the height of intelligence. Just because we believe different things doesn't make you any more intelligent or knowledgeable than I am. Youre right, it doesnt. That is why I can disagree with others on here and still respect their opinion. To me, it is all about how someone arrives at a particular conclusion that counts...in an exchange of ideas. I do not respect the opinion of someone who forms it based on whatever a particular group decides for them. Like I said, you read like a pamphlet and you show a lack of knowledge of even the most basic political terms. Its not that we disagree, its that you are clueless. Ask CrewChick if I have called her ignorant, or LOAL-D or some other pretty smart folks on these board who happen to subscribe to a different political ideology than I do. Just because you dont fit into the smart group doesnt mean I think everyone who shares your ideology to be stupid. If you actually read some of my posts (I know it is not your style to read disagreeing opinions) you would see that from time to time I ask my own questions of others to find out something I dont know. Do not confuse my confidence in my intelligence or my point of view with hubris or the assumption that I know everything or am at "the height of intelligence". That observation of yours again proves that you do not know what you speak of...again defining the word IGNORANT. And you are proof that age does not necessarily equate wisdom. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-05-2010, 03:55 PM	#18
sadgpokx Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 552 Senior Member	Maybe because I have never really heard them from CorneliusSeaon himself, but I would like for you to tell me what you actually believe in Corn? Don't link an article of what you believe, or cut and paste from someones blog, but in your own words; what do you believe we need to do for this nation? What do you want to see for the US to get back to economically sound times? Who is at fault and why? How can we fix it? Where did we go wrong? When did it start going wrong? What is your true opinion please? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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ulw7A8Po Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 415 Senior Member	I have this urge to post US Title 18 in its entirety. Not that it in the least bit relevant but just because it seems to be the thing to do........ Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-05-2010, 04:32 PM	#20
Ecurrexchangess Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 526 Senior Member	I have this urge to post US Title 18 in its entirety. Not that it in the least bit relevant but just because it seems to be the thing to do........ LMAO! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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