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Old 10-08-2010, 07:19 AM   #1
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RevLeft got me thinking, because it ain't just them. I see that sortof shit between libertarians, republicans, and objectivists. Everyone gets lost in the details but meanwhile wants to pretend we can all be equal and united. Tell me where I'm wrong here;

Communism: The eventual eradication of private ownership. All means of production and anything of monetary value is public utility and publically controlled.

Democracy: The matter of legislation through a large group of people. Preferably the more, the better.

Fascism: State controlled economics and social policey. Whilest private ownership may exist, the state oversees most of it, and creates an artifical economy and culture.

Nationalism: The preservation of one's own culture/race/creed/contry over all others. Often met with vicious suspicion of outsiders, and very tribal.

Socialism: A strictly economic policey involving the redistribution of wealth. Socialism exists in all countries, but can only be called socialist if it is a prevelant force within said country. Often socialism is believed to be the precursor to communism or fascism.

Republic: You believe in council form of governance. The less people that make the rules, the better, as they are more fit too. The king, the senate, the wise old sage, whatever! Technially all capitalisms are a republic in that they expect the owners to be the ones who control production, value, commerce, and personal/public relations between buisness. The concept of plutocracy, aristocracy, etc are just more indepth looks at this.

Libertarianism: "Liberal" with less negative condontation. A more moderate version of anarchism that wants less goverment all around. Less governance, less rules, less expectations of people or leaders.

Anarchism: The complete rejection of socialized order. All forms of authority be they from a badge or the will of the people is bad. Often called "nihilistic" but infact, is just radical individualism and that no man can be entrusted to be another man's keeper.




So you could be a "libertarian-socialist". IE: Most western whores who want abortion and fags, but somehow expect us to cater to their need for food and shelter. You could even be a fascist-socialist who just puts culture on the backburner. (IE: the democratic party of the U.S.) You could be a national-socialist, a national-anarchist, a national anything really. Nationalism just means you discriminate. You pick someone over someone else. So like when people think I'm a nationalist, it's not because I care about white people, or religious people, but more of the things I don't want in my socieity. (Mostly faggots) I suppose this is nationalist, but just immagine if Hitler had not talked about the ayran super race, hi dialetics ranking system, and all those pseudo science expiraments to hyper evolve hummanity. Immagine if the nazi party's only platform was improving conditions for the working class and being very anti-semetic.

More then likely they'd have been alo more successful. So I guess thats what RevLeft is afraid of is I'm thinking rationally!

Republicans should not be getting along with libertarians, infact... libertarians really aren't going to get along much with anyone sept for anarchists and nationalists. And onl the nationalists that want THEM to be free, and fuck everybody else! But libertarianism is compatible, it can be a socialist type of libertarinism, a communist kind (primitivism), etc. Infact, all types are compatible to some extent. What I'm trying to say here is politics is not a one dimensional thing. It's constantly changing, compromising, it's about priorities. Whats important to you.

I just find it ironic that the people who scream freedom, equality, and tolerance the loudest. Be they randroids or libtards, are the first to draw sands in the line. There's only two things I expect out of people. Not to be faggots, or to ban me from posting. And even the former I can deal with. I'll just pickon you ALOT... Samantha compares me to a video game supervillain. Like Bowser on mario bros.

I'm always plotting your demise and saying I'm going to rape your kids or something. Then you invite me to go go-karting with you and I say sure... lol!
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Old 10-08-2010, 07:58 AM   #2
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You seem to be more familiar with the more authoritarian/totalitarian forms of "governance."

I think your definition of a democracy, republic and especially libertarianism is all wrong.
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Old 10-08-2010, 08:20 AM   #3
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Why do you write these long articles indented with anime pictures?
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Old 10-08-2010, 08:20 AM   #4
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Democracy; a democracy occurs via popular vote. e.g Propositions eg. prop 8.

A Republic is nothing more than mass quantities of dictators from within the same state governing over a populace.

Libertarianism is very complicated. Libertarianism is the notion of individual liberty. The idea that the state NOR federal government can have a say in your individual decisions in life, nor can they govern or make laws that infringe on your INDIVIDUAL right to self govern. Libertarian ideology is not a right nor a left political model or format. However the strong majority of libertarians view the Bill of Rights as something sacred.

Anarchy is an interesting ideology.

I would call anarchy a centrist version between right wing and left wing libertarianism.

Anarchy is not a viable idea so its useless to discuss it.

Anarchy is the belief of no common order, no government, no police, just violent mob rule..... sure anarchists will say differently however the only way to prove people wrong is to establish a government which is against their insane rules.
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Old 10-08-2010, 08:30 AM   #5
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Why do you write these long articles indented with anime pictures?
They're well written, and worth reading, imo.

I'm glad to see in depth posts, however the slant or viewpoint of the writer.

IMO.
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Old 10-08-2010, 08:37 AM   #6
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They're well written, and worth reading, imo.

I'm glad to see in depth posts, however the slant or viewpoint of the writer.

IMO.
The guy/gal has a very cynical idea on non-authoritarian/totalitarian governments and ideals.
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Old 10-08-2010, 10:20 PM   #7
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RevLeft got me thinking, because it ain't just them. I see that sortof shit between libertarians, republicans, and objectivists. Everyone gets lost in the details but meanwhile wants to pretend we can all be equal and united. Tell me where I'm wrong here;

Communism: The eventual eradication of private ownership. All means of production and anything of monetary value is public utility and publically controlled.

Democracy: The matter of legislation through a large group of people. Preferably the more, the better.

Fascism: State controlled economics and social policey. Whilest private ownership may exist, the state oversees most of it, and creates an artifical economy and culture.

Nationalism: The preservation of one's own culture/race/creed/contry over all others. Often met with vicious suspicion of outsiders, and very tribal.

Socialism: A strictly economic policey involving the redistribution of wealth. Socialism exists in all countries, but can only be called socialist if it is a prevelant force within said country. Often socialism is believed to be the precursor to communism or fascism.

Republic: You believe in council form of governance. The less people that make the rules, the better, as they are more fit too. The king, the senate, the wise old sage, whatever! Technially all capitalisms are a republic in that they expect the owners to be the ones who control production, value, commerce, and personal/public relations between buisness. The concept of plutocracy, aristocracy, etc are just more indepth looks at this.

Libertarianism: "Liberal" with less negative condontation. A more moderate version of anarchism that wants less goverment all around. Less governance, less rules, less expectations of people or leaders.

Anarchism: The complete rejection of socialized order. All forms of authority be they from a badge or the will of the people is bad. Often called "nihilistic" but infact, is just radical individualism and that no man can be entrusted to be another man's keeper.




So you could be a "libertarian-socialist". IE: Most western whores who want abortion and fags, but somehow expect us to cater to their need for food and shelter. You could even be a fascist-socialist who just puts culture on the backburner. (IE: the democratic party of the U.S.) You could be a national-socialist, a national-anarchist, a national anything really. Nationalism just means you discriminate. You pick someone over someone else. So like when people think I'm a nationalist, it's not because I care about white people, or religious people, but more of the things I don't want in my socieity. (Mostly faggots) I suppose this is nationalist, but just immagine if Hitler had not talked about the ayran super race, hi dialetics ranking system, and all those pseudo science expiraments to hyper evolve hummanity. Immagine if the nazi party's only platform was improving conditions for the working class and being very anti-semetic.

More then likely they'd have been alo more successful. So I guess thats what RevLeft is afraid of is I'm thinking rationally!

Republicans should not be getting along with libertarians, infact... libertarians really aren't going to get along much with anyone sept for anarchists and nationalists. And onl the nationalists that want THEM to be free, and fuck everybody else! But libertarianism is compatible, it can be a socialist type of libertarinism, a communist kind (primitivism), etc. Infact, all types are compatible to some extent. What I'm trying to say here is politics is not a one dimensional thing. It's constantly changing, compromising, it's about priorities. Whats important to you.

I just find it ironic that the people who scream freedom, equality, and tolerance the loudest. Be they randroids or libtards, are the first to draw sands in the line. There's only two things I expect out of people. Not to be faggots, or to ban me from posting. And even the former I can deal with. I'll just pickon you ALOT... Samantha compares me to a video game supervillain. Like Bowser on mario bros.

I'm always plotting your demise and saying I'm going to rape your kids or something. Then you invite me to go go-karting with you and I say sure... lol!
Please learn to spell, punctuate and use correct sentence structure before posting again.
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Old 10-08-2010, 10:22 PM   #8
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Why do you write these long articles indented with anime pictures?
I was wondering that myself. I don't usually read long posts; they're usually cut and paste.
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