[Meowmeowz]

The following news item from an RSS feed might be of interest to Monachos readers:

The Church of England would struggle in the future without women priests, researchers say.
This news item is from the BBC UK News service.

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[DF9sLGSU]

The following news item from an RSS feed might be of interest to Monachos readers:

The Church of England would struggle in the future without women priests, researchers say.
This news item is from the BBC UK News service.

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It would not be a news item to say that one of the reasons it is struggling in the present is the decision, in denial of nearly two thousand years of Orthodoxy, to ordain women to the priesthood.

The arguments have been rehearsed exhaustingly, but it remains the case that the Incarnate Lord did not create female apostles. The arguments for creating women priests are secular ones for a secular society.

I have nothing but the greatest of respect for the goodness, the holiness, and the dedication of many of those women who have become 'priests'; but they, and those who ordain them, act in defiance of the actions of the Incarnate Lord. In so doing they have placed their will at the centre of events rather than that of God.

The result is the present Anglican Church. Those who are happy with that are fewer than they used to be.

Why, in our modern western society are we so set on satisfying our own selfish desires?


INXC

John

[immoceefe]

Actually, there is a kind of demonic possession involved in the ordination of women as "priests" or "priestesses" and a kind of fixation among them for remaking the world in their own image -- based on my personal experience and observation. What happened is that the radical Marxists of the Frankfurt school of the sixties discovered the Holy Spirit and decided that by calling down the Holy Spirit they would then have the political power to transform political "structures". It is a kind of gnostic magic. They see the liturgy as in terms of a set of paganistic incantations. Not as a rational sacrifice. Christ is a metaphor.

[amberamuletuk]

The following news item from an RSS feed might be of interest to Monachos readers:

The Church of England would struggle in the future without women priests, researchers say.This news item is from the BBC UK News service.

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Or maybe, the Church of England is struggling because of the women priests?

I'm sorry. I have been in the presence of a woman priest once - a long time ago - and it was the worst experience in my life. She didn't have to say anything. But she was wearing a white collar and a black thingy that I suppose looked like a cassock, and the first feelings that welled up within me were those of total disgust and repulsion. It's totally different from men with white collars, who shouldn't be wearing them. In their case, I only lost respect for them, I wasn't repulsed.

We attend a very small parish. All our choir members are women and we have no deacons and readers, so one of the choir members reads the epistle. Today we were visiting St George Antiochian church, in Allentown PA. There was a deacon. There were men to read the epistles. There were also men in the choir. There was something really beautiful and majestic about having the men there, doing what they're supposed to do....

In Christ,
Mary

[Tuqofiw]

I have never seen a female priest IRL having been a convert for a while but it is one of those issues I am going to be hit with by loved ones who just don't understand my faith. It's all about pride, the evil one stirs up pride until our role in life instead of being just different is seen as "inferior". We are taught pride in our schools and in our modern thinking world and humility is frowned upon. Sad.

[DF9sLGSU]

I have never seen a female priest IRL having been a convert for a while but it is one of those issues I am going to be hit with by loved ones who just don't understand my faith. It's all about pride, the evil one stirs up pride until our role in life instead of being just different is seen as "inferior". We are taught pride in our schools and in our modern thinking world and humility is frowned upon. Sad.

Dear Irene,

So true, alas.

As an Anglican I struggled hard with this one. But all the arguments in favour of this are secular ones, and those who use them seem to want a Church in their image rather than the one founded by the Incarnate Lord.

What is even sadder, is the way in which advocates of women's ordination stigmatise those who oppose them as prejudiced bigots. No doubt there are those on both sides who fit into such a category, although how any of us can presume to look into the heart of another, is lost on me. Any 'cause' which is spread by such tactics proclaims by that its dubious nature, I fear.

As we have discussed elsewhere recently on this site, our understanding of what was delivered once to us by the Lord can develop, but as Mr. Jones says, this is something else altogether; it is another religion.

Mary is surely correct, it is the very perversion of the Faith that is leading Anglicanism into the mess it is in. The Archbishop of Canterbury is a patently good man and a subtle theologian, who is well-known to have a great sympathy with and understanding of Orthodoxy; as he looks on these things it is perhaps no wonder he wraps his thoughts up in musings some find hard to follow - what is happening to his Church is hard to swallow - too hard for me.

INXC,

John

[redDoodia]

May I suggest that this is a topic that doesn't really concern us: what concerns each individual is his own salvation, not the salvation of others. Anglicans may do as they wish; though we may believe them misguided that does not mean we should criticise.

With love in Christ

Alex

[DF9sLGSU]

May I suggest that this is a topic that doesn't really concern us: what concerns each individual is his own salvation, not the salvation of others. Anglicans may do as they wish; though we may believe them misguided that does not mean we should criticise.

With love in Christ

Alex

Dear Alex,

This is an interesting reading of things, and, on the last point, nicely charitable; as an Anglican, I do feel able to express a view, of course.

When I was a young man most of my friends would have echoed the views in your first sentence; look at it now. If you think that any Chuch operating in the west can be immune to this topic, I would suggest a reading of the latest edition of Bishop Kallistos; The Orthodox Church.


INXC

John

[MattJargin]

The CofE is now on the verge of ordaining women Bishops, despite the objections of some. I am not the only one to have found this a step too far against what they professes to believe, and teaches (or rather used to attempted to teach it's young people). I left and recently became an orthodox Cathacumin, in a church were there are several other paritioners who left the CofE for the refuge of the true faith.

There was once the hope the CofE would come home to orthodoxy, is there anything we can do but pray that those who are deceved by this come to the realisation of the truth and come home to the Church?

Phoebe