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Old 08-12-2010, 10:30 PM   #1
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http://www.abc.net.au/rural/news/con...8/s2981049.htm


Long waits for medical treatment in regional Australia

The rural health lobby has released results from a survey showing that some people in rural areas have a six-month wait to see a doctor.

The voluntary online survey of 1000 people was organised by the National Rural Health Alliance and the Rural Doctors Association.

It also shows that 18 per cent of respondents wait more than three weeks to get an appointment, while three-quarters had to travel away from their local area in the past year to receive non-emergency medical treatment.

Gordon Gregory, from the National Rural Health Alliance, says it proves that there's a real shortage of medical professionals in regional areas.

"The situation with specialists and dentists is even worse than for doctors, so we've got a really serious problem," he says.

"And that's why, I guess, it's disappointing that neither side of politics has focused on these challenges yet in the election campaign."
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Old 08-12-2010, 10:57 PM   #2
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The rural health lobby has released results from a survey showing that some people in rural areas have a six-month wait to see a doctor.


It also shows that 18 per cent of respondents wait more than three weeks to get an appointment
It is not surprising. It is the outback. Rural area. Doctors don't set up shop in a rural area waiting for patients. They need to make money and are supposed to make good money. To make money, they set up shop in where the population is. It is common for people in rural areas to travel to urban areas for medical treatment.
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Old 08-13-2010, 05:19 AM   #3
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Jesus if I want to a doc here there like no waiting at all. I cant imagine waiting for medical care.
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Old 08-13-2010, 05:49 AM   #4
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http://www.abc.net.au/rural/news/con...8/s2981049.htm


Long waits for medical treatment in regional Australia

The rural health lobby has released results from a survey showing that some people in rural areas have a six-month wait to see a doctor.

The voluntary online survey of 1000 people was organised by the National Rural Health Alliance and the Rural Doctors Association.

It also shows that 18 per cent of respondents wait more than three weeks to get an appointment, while three-quarters had to travel away from their local area in the past year to receive non-emergency medical treatment.

Gordon Gregory, from the National Rural Health Alliance, says it proves that there's a real shortage of medical professionals in regional areas.

"The situation with specialists and dentists is even worse than for doctors, so we've got a really serious problem," he says.

"And that's why, I guess, it's disappointing that neither side of politics has focused on these challenges yet in the election campaign."
u understand what is 'rural'? haha....most of us don't live in regional, we stay within the metropolitan area of the city. if u live in 'rural', of course you should expect to receive 'rural' service.

In US, its probably translate to the midwest equivalent.
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Old 08-13-2010, 07:21 AM   #5
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u understand what is 'rural'? haha....most of us don't live in regional, we stay within the metropolitan area of the city. if u live in 'rural', of course you should expect to receive 'rural' service.

In US, its probably translate to the midwest equivalent.
Ha - is Perth considered "Rural"? Relatives tell me must wait long time to see doc with surgery taking months to schedule. Good luck if you need certain diagnositc scans too. No thanks once again Australia.
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Old 08-13-2010, 07:29 AM   #6
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1 word: "SICKO"

Ha - is Perth considered "Rural"? Relatives tell me must wait long time to see doc with surgery taking months to schedule. Good luck if you need certain diagnositc scans too. No thanks once again Australia.
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Old 08-13-2010, 07:49 AM   #7
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Ha - is Perth considered "Rural"? Relatives tell me must wait long time to see doc with surgery taking months to schedule. Good luck if you need certain diagnositc scans too. No thanks once again Australia.
I don't live in Perth, don't know. Didn't your hideous relatives already moved out complaining the high cost of living? Or they can't afford to buy 'private healthcare'?
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Old 08-13-2010, 08:08 AM   #8
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I don't live in Perth, don't know. Didn't your hideous relatives already moved out complaining the high cost of living? Or they can't afford to buy 'private healthcare'?
Ya that's right. They complained, sold thier properties for massive gains and went back to SG - they also mentioned something about "super" money on top of that. For some reason they dont complain any more and they dont miss Australia as well.

Oh yes I almost forgot you have to pay 1.5% tax for hospital cover for certain income brackets - in a country with universal health care - but hang on, now they are expected to suddenly have private health insurance on top too. Very realistic.

Shame on you Australia.
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Old 08-13-2010, 09:02 AM   #9
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Ya that's right. They complained, sold thier properties for massive gains and went back to SG - they also mentioned something about "super" money on top of that. For some reason they dont complain any more and they dont miss Australia as well.

Oh yes I almost forgot you have to pay 1.5% tax for hospital cover for certain income brackets - in a country with universal health care - but hang on, now they are expected to suddenly have private health insurance on top too. Very realistic.

Shame on you Australia.
Its hard to believe if they have made 'massive property gains' in Perth they actually complain about the high cost of living there. Its also hard to believe they don't miss the Perth laidback life after going back to Singapore. So they actually enjoy living in hot & humid, cramped high rise flats & congested traffic in Spore? why didn't they migrate to Canada then? Cost of living is lower than Australia yet high quality of life. Why would they want to revert back to the low quality of lifestyle in SG. It doesn't make sense...haha
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Old 08-13-2010, 09:35 AM   #10
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Its hard to believe if they have made 'massive property gains' in Perth they actually complain about the high cost of living there. Its also hard to believe they don't miss the Perth laidback life after going back to Singapore. So they actually enjoy living in hot & humid, cramped high rise flats & congested traffic in Spore? why didn't they migrate to Canada then? Cost of living is lower than Australia yet high quality of life. Why would they want to revert back to the low quality of lifestyle in SG. It doesn't make sense...haha
You make a good point because these same relatives loved living there in the 1980s and 1990s. But in 2005 they started to complain about the cost of living there and eventually decided to return. One uncle came first in 2007 and then the aunt returned in 2009. The returns on thier properties they sold were very, very high because they bought long ago.

They do miss the "good old days" in Australia but they dont like what it has become. One thing I dont understand is after 20 over years of disliking Singapore and thankful they were in Australia, they suddenly missed the family, old places, etc and decided to return. Yes the money was one thing but as the uncle put it "its only bricks and mortar" and he sold and came back. I think in thier older years they suddenly got nostalgic. How strange.
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Old 08-13-2010, 10:54 AM   #11
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[QUOTE
In US, its probably translate to the midwest equivalent.[/QUOTE]

Wherever I am nationwide I go on docfind enter my zip and get my doc. The insurance co makes sure we get a certain # of docs in network. Even in the country you'll get seen pretty fast.
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Old 08-13-2010, 12:41 PM   #12
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Ha - is Perth considered "Rural"? Relatives tell me must wait long time to see doc with surgery taking months to schedule. Good luck if you need certain diagnositc scans too. No thanks once again Australia.
That is just for certain free elective surgeries. There is a limit to the waiting time for non-elective surgery and if the time is excessive, the patient will be transferred to a private hospital, paid for by the govt under a special arrangement.
In Singapore, it is the same wait at SGH, if you want faster, they brought in a doctor from another specialisation. I remember this blur doctor misdiagnosis my aunt, if she has not been transferred to Mt E, my relatives would not have found out the mistake.

Unfortunately, this type of news are not reported in Singapore media.
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Old 08-13-2010, 12:43 PM   #13
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[QUOTE
In US, its probably translate to the midwest equivalent.
Wherever I am nationwide I go on docfind enter my zip and get my doc. The insurance co makes sure we get a certain # of docs in network. Even in the country you'll get seen pretty fast.[/QUOTE]

I can see why Republicans dont want free health care when the existing system works for them. Too bad it doesnt work for everybody.
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Old 08-13-2010, 12:53 PM   #14
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Its hard to believe if they have made 'massive property gains' in Perth they actually complain about the high cost of living there. Its also hard to believe they don't miss the Perth laidback life after going back to Singapore. So they actually enjoy living in hot & humid, cramped high rise flats & congested traffic in Spore? why didn't they migrate to Canada then? Cost of living is lower than Australia yet high quality of life. Why would they want to revert back to the low quality of lifestyle in SG. It doesn't make sense...haha
Look, I will never move from Perth to Singapore because of the laid-back quality life here, and the weather is excellent now to enjoy what I miss in Singapore.

Today is Lazy Friday and I am off work at 3pm to test drive an eco-car built by a colleague at the local racetrack.
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Old 08-13-2010, 09:09 PM   #15
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This is why all should come to Melbourne..

I visited my family Doc in Albert St - Dr David Leong @ 1245hrs yesterday.. crossed over the road to St Vincent Hospital for X-ray.. collected x-ray for Doc at 2pm.. consultation completed..

All this at ZERO cost..

Life is wonderful...
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Old 08-14-2010, 12:37 AM   #16
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That is just for certain free elective surgeries. There is a limit to the waiting time for non-elective surgery and if the time is excessive, the patient will be transferred to a private hospital, paid for by the govt under a special arrangement.
In Singapore, it is the same wait at SGH, if you want faster, they brought in a doctor from another specialisation. I remember this blur doctor misdiagnosis my aunt, if she has not been transferred to Mt E, my relatives would not have found out the mistake.

Unfortunately, this type of news are not reported in Singapore media.
Who wants to go through all that? Waiting, transfers, not knowing when you are getting the care you need. Sounds terrible to me.

Now I see why the Brits complain about the NHS and how serious the problems are in your country. Funny how the Brits just pay more for private health insurance to solve the issue. Looking at the response from IWC2006 it seems to be the solution in Australia too. So how much will you pay with your taxes, 1.5% hospital tax and private health insurance?

Even the best doctors make mistakes. A misdiagnosis in America commonly results in massive Malpractice lawsuits paid for by the US Physician's malpracitce insurance - a major cost for medical practicitioners in the US that get passed on to the patient - or the US Insurance Co. Malpractice in the US is one of the reasons their medical costs are so high.

Are you saying Singapore should adopt the US thort system and allow Singapore lawyers to become ambulance chasers and sue every doctor for every mistake? There will be signs and ads in the TVs.....are you hurt? Contact us and we'll sue!

Some say the system in America ensures doctors make fewer mistakes while others state the malpractice insurance costs result in US doctors practising defensive medicine - where medical providers often order unnecessary tests to avoid possible misdiagnosis - making costs in the US even higher. We dont see that in Singapore because there is no deterrent like there is in the US.

Hmmm. I wonder what system is best. I guess the American with private health insurance comes off best here as he does not pay any of these costs, does not have to wait like in the UK/Australia and can sue if mistreated unlike Singapore.
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