[Kamendoriks]

Carla Bruni-Sarkozy and Isabelle Adjani were called “prostitutes” by the Iranian daily Kayhan, after the first lady of France and the famous French actress had signed a petition for releasing an Iranian woman sentenced to death for adultery.

Rumor: Carla Bruni-Sarkozy and Isabelle Adjani were called “prostitutes” by an Iranian newspaper | inrumor.com | inrumor

It's not over yet ... and now I like Carla again ...Well done Mrs.Sarkozy ...

and maybe we should involve Israel (?)..

[ptmQqoxw]

The previous post is brought to you by an idiot.

Actually, what he said was spot on. I think you mistook it as saying that religious fundamentalists ARE in charge of Canada and the US. I think he's just saying that if it were to happen, we're really no better. Historically, it's sort of proven that evil leaders can make an otherwise good society evil in its shadow.

[Yswxomvy]

Enlightened-humane are two different things. Given fundamentalist mindset I would say that stoning is more humane and the Iranian fundamentalist are more enlightened than others who carry out less humane method of death sentences. I should add that this sentence not enlightened in my opinion, nor is stoning humane.

Enlightened-humane... Frankly, I'm not sure what the standard would be today in this world. The US has the death penalty and we torture people. However, we don't sentence people to death with torture. Is that humane but not enlightened? Or enlightened and not humane?

I gotta go.

Yes, enlightened and humane are two different things. I never said otherwise. I would not use either to describe killing someone by throwing rocks at them. Bonus opinion, I would also not use either word to describe the U.S. prison system killing someone by lethal injection/the gas chamber/electric chair.

Regardless of that fact, looking at people killing people with rocks and saying "well it's more enlightened than putting them in a bag with cats and beating them to death!" is crazy and I'm amazed that anyone could hold that position in any way that is not either completely dishonest or certifiably insane.

[Kamendoriks]

Sakineh's stoning on Wed..

Sakineh's stoning on Wed

BERLIN - AN IRANIAN activist said a woman sentenced to death by stoning could be executed as early as Wednesday, citing sources close to the court.

Iran Torturing Condemned Woman's Son

Report: Iran Torturing Condemned Woman Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani's Son

[Kamendoriks]

Iranian woman on death row gets 99 lashes for 'immodesty'

Iranian woman on death row gets 99 lashes for 'immodesty' - Israel News, Ynetnews

If the reports are confirmed, it appears the authorities have responded to the international campaign to free Ashtiani with a warning: The one who'll suffer the consequences is Ashtiani herself.

This government is runned by " C O W A R D S " ..

[Kamendoriks]

Lawyer flees to Oslo..

Thank god I am in in the U S A ...




His client was sentenced to death and should be stoned , arrest warrant was issued against him : now he fled the Iranian lawyer Mohammed Mostafai on Turkey to Norway and requested asylum.

Oslo - The Iranian lawyer Mohammed Mostafai , inter alia, in his home country a woman at risk of stoning represents , has fled to Oslo. He had asked for asylum in Norway , said Mostafai . He had already received a visa for one year. Norwegian Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Stoere said : "I am very happy that the human rights lawyer Mohammed Mostafai now in Norway is in safety. "


Among the clients of the lawyer is the 43 -year-old Iranian Sakine Aschtiani Mohammadi , who was sentenced to death by stoning for adultery and also for the murder of her husband in 2006. Your children do not agree that it has ever been guilty of a crime . Nor is there any evidence.

The case of the dual - Mohammadi Aschtiani mother had taken care of in the Western world for heavy criticism . The head of the Iranian judicial authorities continued the stoning then from mid-July for the time being. Nevertheless, against her lawyer was adopted in late July arrest warrant. Mostafai then fled on Turkey to Norway, where he arrived after own statements on Saturday evening.

Sentenced to death shall die in Iran during the rule on the gallows. The stoning is scheduled for sexual offenses. While the Iranian judiciary , the courts have in the face of international protests instructed to refrain from stoning . Especially in the province , the judges do not always keep it. During the stoning Men are buried to the waist, women up to the neck and then pelted with stones as long until they are dead

[Kamendoriks]

Iran changes Ashtiani stoning sentence for adultery to hanging

Iran changes Ashtiani stoning sentence for adultery to hanging - CSMonitor.com

A Government just runned by animals !!

That Ashtiani was forced by torture to confess , is for her lawyer as well as human rights organizations is beyond question. "The TV station that broadcast Ashtianis confession is completely " under the control of the intelligence service , Mohammad Mostafaei said from his exile in Norway. After he had made Ashtianis case worldwide publicity, was the lawyer been sought on arrest warrants and had to flee from Iran. " The aim of the TV reports , is someone to publicly discredit and justify the lies , the illegal actions of the government , " thus " Mostafaei CNN . "

[treawittelf]

I thought he was being sarcastic? Could be wrong I suppose, it's tough to gauge e-sarcasm sometimes.

Well if that's the case I take my comment back. If not, however, the comment stands.

[Mynameishappy]

Well if that's the case I take my comment back. If not, however, the comment stands.

If one could choose the method of a death sentence (regardless of the injustice of the sentence):

1. Death by stoning
2. Death by maggots (eaten to death, or dying of infection or disease)
3. Death by cats scratching (bleeding to death)

I would saying that stoning would be the most humane. I would think being eaten by maggots could take days or weeks.

[WeightWatchyshow]

If one could choose the method of a death sentence (regardless of the injustice of the sentence):

1. Death by stoning
2. Death by maggots (eaten to death, or dying of infection or disease)
3. Death by cats scratching (bleeding to death)

I would saying that stoning would be the most humane. I would think being eaten by maggots could take days or weeks.

Unless they used really small stones! I'm sorry, I couldn't help myself.

[Yswxomvy]

If one could choose the method of a death sentence (regardless of the injustice of the sentence):

1. Death by stoning
2. Death by maggots (eaten to death, or dying of infection or disease)
3. Death by cats scratching (bleeding to death)

I would saying that stoning would be the most humane. I would think being eaten by maggots could take days or weeks.

That's not what you said though. You said:

However, Iran is very enlightened in it's method

Of all the words you could use to describe the state-sanctioned killing of a human being by throwing rocks at them, "enlightened" is what you went with....

[Michmant]

Unless they used really small stones! I'm sorry, I couldn't help myself.

The size of the stones used during the execution are required to be . . . not so large that they would kill a woman too quickly, nor so small that they would fail to cause serious injury or pain .

[WeightWatchyshow]

One day, long ago in a town in Israel a woman was about to be stoned by the people. Upon hearing this, Jesus Christ went in front of the crowd and said,"He who has no sin, cast the first stone." Next thing you know, a frail woman with wrinkled skin beamed a stone at the woman's head. Jesus next reply was,"Mom!".

[Michmant]

One day, long ago in a town in Israel a woman was about to be stoned by the people. Upon hearing this, Jesus Christ went in front of the crowd and said,"He who has no sin, cast the first stone." Next thing you know, a frail woman with wrinkled skin beamed a stone at the woman's head. Jesus next reply was,"Mom!".

ahh thats an old one. lol

[Michmant]

Taliban stone couple for adultery in AfghanistanBy AMIR SHAH, AP
posted: 1 HOUR 48 MINUTES , Afghanistan -Taliban militants in northern Afghanistan stoned a young couple to death for adultery, which a rights group said was the first confirmed use of the punishment here since the hardline Islamist regime was ousted in 2001.
The Taliban-ordered killing comes at a time when international rights groups have raised worries that attempts to negotiate with the Taliban to bring peace to Afghanistan could mean a step backward for human rights in the country. When the Islamist extremists ruled Afghanistan, women were not allowed to leave their houses without a male guardian, and public killings for violations of their harsh interpretation of the Quran were common.
This weekend's stoning appeared to arise from an affair between a married man and a single woman in Kunduz province's Dasht-e-Archi district.
The woman, Sadiqa, was 20 years old and engaged to another man, said the Kunduz provincial police chief, Gen. Abdul Raza Yaqoubi. Her lover, 28-year-old Qayum, left his wife to run away with her, and the two had holed up in a friend's house five days ago, said district government head, Mohammad Ayub Aqyar.

They were discovered by Taliban operatives on Sunday and stoned to death in front a crowd of about 150 men, Aqyar said.
First the woman was brought out and stoned, then the man a half an hour later, Aqyar said. He decried the punishment, which he said was ordered by two local Taliban commanders.
A spokesman for the provincial government also condemned the act.
Taliban stone couple for adultery in Afghanistan

[Mynameishappy]

That's not what you said though. You said:



Of all the words you could use to describe the state-sanctioned killing of a human being by throwing rocks at them, "enlightened" is what you went with....

Enlightened-humane are two different things. Given fundamentalist mindset I would say that stoning is more humane and the Iranian fundamentalist are more enlightened than others who carry out less humane method of death sentences. I should add that this sentence not enlightened in my opinion, nor is stoning humane.

Enlightened-humane... Frankly, I'm not sure what the standard would be today in this world. The US has the death penalty and we torture people. However, we don't sentence people to death with torture. Is that humane but not enlightened? Or enlightened and not humane?

I gotta go.

[Kamendoriks]

Thank god for the Internet , without the digital tools this woman would be dead by now ..

Defecting diplomat says Iran in disarray over international outcry of Ashtiani stoning

The international campaign to save Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani, the Iranian woman sentenced to death by stoning, has rocked the regime and kept her alive, a senior Iranian diplomat said, as he applied for political asylum in Finland today. The impact of the campaign has been “more than you can imagine”, Hossein Alizadeh told The Times, as he defected out of disgust at the regime’s election-stealing and brutality.

“Without that pressure she would have been stoned before this. I don’t have any doubt the international pressure on the regime is working.”
The regime was worried not only about its image throughout the world if Ms Ashtiani was stoned, but also about its standing at home where stoning is a deeply unpopular punishment, he said.

Mr Alizadeh, 45, has worked for the Iranian Foreign Ministry for 21 years and was second-in-command at the Iranian Embassy in Helsinki before he resigned last week.

[Kamendoriks]

Feel a kind of crazy to keep posting this, but this is how the media is working ...Frontpage , reading ...then gone ...It's like the stockmarket , a name appears on google ..everybody pays attention..then slowly dies...

Sakineh Ashtiani sentenced to execution by hanging

However :

Sakineh Ashtiani sentenced to execution by hanging

"The question should not be politicized. The Iranian judiciary system cannot be influenced by the propaganda campaign waged in the West,"

Now read this :

Last week, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad reiterated that in Iran there is no death sentence, but then compared Ashtiani’s case with that of Teresa Lewis, the woman who was executed last Thursday in Virginia, United States, for a similar offense.

And they let this guy coming in freely to the US (which in a way I highly respect..) and have his speeches at the UN ??

[Kamendoriks]

Son seeks proof Iranian stoning case 'on hold' - CNN.com

"We, Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani's children, declare that our mother is innocent and should be freed by the Islamic Republic immediately and without any conditions," Ghaderzadeh said.

Maybe the Quran is the book of evil after all !!

[RerRibreLok]

Iran, USA, Canada, it makes no difference when religious fundamentalists are in charge. If there was a survey of Americans and the question was how to deal with adultery and stoning was one of the options a certain percentage of US citizens would check that box.

However, Iran is very enlightened in it's method, since one good stone could put the person out of their misery. During the reign of Tamerlain male adulterers were wrapped in a rug with maggots. Women were put in a cloth bag with cats and people would beat the bag.

There is definately truth to this.

Lets not forget Alan Turing:

"During the Second World War, Turing worked for the Government Code and Cypher School at Bletchley Park, Britain's codebreaking centre. For a time he was head of Hut 8, the section responsible for German naval cryptanalysis. He devised a number of techniques for breaking German ciphers, including the method of the bombe, an electromechanical machine that could find settings for the Enigma machine."

Here's the thanks he recieves from his country for helping save countless lives:

"Turing's homosexuality resulted in a criminal prosecution in 1952 — homosexual acts were illegal in the United Kingdom at that time — and he accepted treatment with female hormones (chemical castration) as an alternative to prison. He died in 1954, several weeks before his 42nd birthday, from cyanide poisoning. An inquest determined it was suicide; his mother and some others believed his death was accidental."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Tu...Welchman_bombe