[avaincmolla]

Libyan rebels: Unit protecting Gadhafi surrenders | AP | 08/21/2011

[Hetgvwic]

Of coursse, this is all Obama' fault. Him and his illegal war!

[FallJimerks]

Gadhafi is dead, Libya official claims - World news - Mideast/N. Africa - msnbc.com

[Narus63]

Live by the sword, die by it. He hurt a lot of people. Call me a savage, but I think it's nice to see him lying in a pool of his own blood.

[Narus63]

Just when he was FINALLY about to be promoted to General, to. Life ain't fair I tell ya.

[TeNuaTe]

Let us now admit that Obama had the correct policy. Another enemy of America dead.

[DoctorAlexandro]

[mr.nemo]

Let us now admit that Obama had the correct policy. Another enemy of America dead.

Yes, just like Bush had the correct policy in Iraq. That's TWO of America's enemies dead!

[Narus63]

measuring him for a coffin!

[HilaryNidierer]

So does this mean one of his illegal wars can end?

[proslaviy]

"You know I'm going to hunt you down right? Now just smile and nod your head...."

[HilaryNidierer]

Let us now admit that Obama had the correct policy. Another enemy of America dead.

So you feel implementing sharia law is the correct policy?

[TeNuaTe]

So you feel implementing sharia law is the correct policy?

Well democracy in the Arab World is messy. Iraq has the same problem. You really don't know what you are going to get do you?

But the difference is its' not up to us to chose what Libyan democracy will look like. In Iraq-we had this moronic assumption that we could invade and dictate what their government would look like. Conservatives always argued to me that an Arab style democracy was preferable to Saddam Hussein. And then they looked at me with blank stares when I read them the part of the Iraqi Constitution that requires that all Iraqi laws respect sharia law. We'll have to see what emerges in Libya. If sharia law is what they chose, that's something we have no control over. But as long as they confront extremism in their country, that is really all we can hope for.

The bottom line is Obama followed the correct policy as far as the US interests were concerned. The Libyan people rose up legitimately and without any coaxing from Western powers. NATO, and the US got involved when there was a legitimate civil war and international consensus to get involved-including Arab consensus. We didn't lose a single American life. Gaddafi is now gone. All this nonsense from the GOP about "leading from behind" was total anti Obama horse manure. The policy was clearly a success.

[HilaryNidierer]

So you feel implementing sharia law is the correct policy?

Well democracy in the Arab World is messy. Iraq has the same problem. You really don't know what you are going to get do you?

No you don’t and in Egypt and soon Libya) I see religious zealot, strong man types taking power w/out a democratic process. And you are correct in that “You really don't know what you are going to get do you?” Isn’t it obvious that we shouldn’t be involved?

But the difference is its' not up to us to chose what Libyan democracy will look like.

But it is up to US to try and assassinate leaders in countries like Libya?

In Iraq-we had this moronic assumption that we could invade and dictate what their government would look like. Conservatives always argued to me that an Arab style democracy was preferable to Saddam Hussein. And then they looked at me with blank stares when I read them the part of the Iraqi Constitution that requires that all Iraqi laws respect sharia law.

If you want to have an intellectually honest discussion abt Iraq I would use the word neo-conservative instead of conservative .. big difference

We'll have to see what emerges in Libya. If sharia law is what they chose, that's something we have no control over. But as long as they confront extremism in their country, that is really all we can hope for.

So your analogy is they can choose the form of government they want but who will choose/influence who their leader is by assassinating (or trying too) current rulers?

The bottom line is Obama followed the correct policy as far as the US interests were concerned. The Libyan people rose up legitimately and without any coaxing from Western powers. NATO, and the US got involved when there was a legitimate civil war and international consensus to get involved-including Arab consensus. We didn't lose a single American life. Gaddafi is now gone. All this nonsense from the GOP about "leading from behind" was total anti Obama horse manure. The policy was clearly a success.

But he ignored OUR constitution an OUR rule of law which you are OK with?

[Narus63]

Newsflash: Presidents Washington through Obama may have ignored OUR constitution and OUR rule of law. Your point is?

[HilaryNidierer]

Well democracy in the Arab World is messy. Iraq has the same problem. You really don't know what you are going to get do you?

But the difference is its' not up to us to chose what Libyan democracy will look like. In Iraq-we had this moronic assumption that we could invade and dictate what their government would look like. Conservatives always argued to me that an Arab style democracy was preferable to Saddam Hussein. And then they looked at me with blank stares when I read them the part of the Iraqi Constitution that requires that all Iraqi laws respect sharia law. We'll have to see what emerges in Libya. If sharia law is what they chose, that's something we have no control over. But as long as they confront extremism in their country, that is really all we can hope for.

The bottom line is Obama followed the correct policy as far as the US interests were concerned. The Libyan people rose up legitimately and without any coaxing from Western powers. NATO, and the US got involved when there was a legitimate civil war and international consensus to get involved-including Arab consensus. We didn't lose a single American life. Gaddafi is now gone. All this nonsense from the GOP about "leading from behind" was total anti Obama horse manure. The policy was clearly a success.

Also; The objective of American foreign policy should only be to preserve and protect the United States of America … that is the sole purpose. It is not to embrace some ideological false utopia called ‘the democracy movement’ in countries that have NO history of democracy or anything that even resembles democracy.

Revolution for revolutions sake isn’t in the best interest of America and our idiots in DC have no understanding of the Middle East and the history. You can not project and impose, on a society, that has thousands of years of tyranny, a democratic system. Since the Arab spring, in any Arab country; have you seen anything that represents democracy?

[TeNuaTe]

Also; The objective of American foreign policy should only be to preserve and protect the United States of America … that is the sole purpose. It is not to embrace some ideological false utopia called ‘the democracy movement’ in countries that have NO history of democracy or anything that even resembles democracy.

Revolution for revolutions sake isn’t in the best interest of America and our idiots in DC have no understanding of the Middle East and the history. You can not project and impose, on a society, that has thousands of years of tyranny, a democratic system. Since the Arab spring, in any Arab country; have you seen anything that represents democracy?

Turkey actually

[HilaryNidierer]

Also; The objective of American foreign policy should only be to preserve and protect the United States of America … that is the sole purpose. It is not to embrace some ideological false utopia called ‘the democracy movement’ in countries that have NO history of democracy or anything that even resembles democracy.

Revolution for revolutions sake isn’t in the best interest of America and our idiots in DC have no understanding of the Middle East and the history. You can not project and impose, on a society, that has thousands of years of tyranny, a democratic system. Since the Arab spring, in any Arab country; have you seen anything that represents democracy?

Turkey actually

Lmfao ... Turkey is an Arab country????

Their people participated in the Arab spring uprising?


Lil note .. Muslim doesn't = Arab

[TeNuaTe]

Lmfao ... Turkey is an Arab country????

Their people participated in the Arab spring uprising?


Lil note .. Muslim doesn't = Arab

You see this is another demonstration of what I now understand to be your attention deficit disorder. If you recall, only a few posts ago you started talking about "sharia law" -so our discussion centered upon "muslim" countries and the problem with democracies there. Arab countries are really only limited to the Arabian peninsula so your question was really irrelevant to the discussion you posed initially.

It appears I'm the only one who stayed focused on the discussion.