LOGO
Reply to Thread New Thread
Old 12-25-2009, 06:28 PM   #1
Hofonom

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
364
Senior Member
Default Piracy on the high sea's
I don't get it, I thought there were different law's on open ocean.

They can see all the guns and equipment being dumped, why let them go?

Link
NAIROBI, Kenya – A helicopter fired warning shots toward a suspected pirate skiff, where six Somali men sat among assault rifles, grappling hooks and an aluminum ladder. But before it could be boarded by sailors from a nearby warship, the men threw all the gear overboard.

With little evidence to convict them, the would-be pirates were let go, along with their boat and enough fuel to get to Somalia. Nothing was done to prevent the men from rearming and trying again.
Hofonom is offline


Old 12-26-2009, 09:08 PM   #2
halfstreet

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
498
Senior Member
Default
halfstreet is offline


Old 12-27-2009, 07:57 PM   #3
Hofonom

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
364
Senior Member
Default
Thanks for the grammar check. Hey isn't there supposed to be a period after the "Mr" in your signature?
Hofonom is offline


Old 12-27-2009, 08:10 PM   #4
GAGNAPPEAPH

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
350
Senior Member
Default
Arent' there some international law's that govern's what's goin' on the high sea's?
GAGNAPPEAPH is offline


Old 12-27-2009, 08:27 PM   #5
halfstreet

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
498
Senior Member
Default
Thanks for the grammar check. Hey isn't there supposed to be a period after the "Mr" in your signature?
If you'd only done it once, I wouldn't have said anything, but you did it twice in this post (once in the title, once in the body) and I'm pretty sure I've seen you make the same mistake before.

Don't take Bob seriously; he's an angry flower and does not reflect the attitude of this poster.

As to my name, current style guides say that it is acceptable to drop the period when abbreviation prefixes. I prefer to use it in writing. However, I also remember the days when you couldn't have spaces or punctuation in login names in teh Intrawebz, so I still omit them when registering.
halfstreet is offline


Old 12-27-2009, 10:47 PM   #6
karkinadze

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
425
Senior Member
Default
There are a wide variety of global treaties governing the high seas. The problem has less to do with the evidence required than the fact that there is no really good forum to try the suspects. Most of these pirates are Somali nationals and it raises sticky international realtions problems when foreign militaries start grabbing citizens of a country and taking them to another country - witness Guantanamo Bay detainees.

In the past, governments have used incentives to encourage the home country to start enforcement of pirate activities. This worked fairly well in the waters off Indonesia where piracy was rampant in the 90's in the Malacca Straits. Unfortunately, Somalia has no effective government to do the enforcement and the international appetite for going in to help "nation build" is slim since the "Blackhawk Down" days. Also, there is some validity to the Somali claims that European and Asian countries have been in violation of international laws re: overfishing and dumping of hazardous waste off the coast of Somalia.

If these pirates were acting more like pirates of the old days - boarding and killing the crew and stealing the vessel - there would probably be more clamor for something to be done. As it stands, the crews are almost never hurt and the vessels and crew are returned after payment of a ransom. Obviously it is not an ideal situation, but it hasnt gotten so onerous that countries have made it a priority issue.

I think most shipping nations are hoping that the countries that benefit by the Suez canal traffic will begin to get hurt by a decrease in shipping through the canal and will deal with the problem locally - rather than have Euro/asian interests come in to deal with it.
karkinadze is offline


Old 12-27-2009, 11:10 PM   #7
kasandrasikl

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
394
Senior Member
Default
When it comes to piracy, I'm a hardcore conservative:



Yarr.
kasandrasikl is offline


Old 12-27-2009, 11:16 PM   #8
halfstreet

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
498
Senior Member
Default
When it comes to piracy, I'm a hardcore conservative:



Yarr.
You know, we (the City of Philadelphia) still have one of those. It's on loan to the Atwater Kent.
halfstreet is offline


Old 08-01-2010, 02:58 PM   #9
Forex Autopilot

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
447
Senior Member
Default
I don't get it, I thought there were different law's on open ocean.

They can see all the guns and equipment being dumped, why let them go? ...
The problem isn't on the high seas but when an armed ship comes into port. There are different international laws regarding ships in port. So while a ship can be armed and fire on an attacking ship on the ocean it would not be able to come into port.

The idea is to keep ports safe from attack.
Forex Autopilot is offline


Old 08-01-2010, 03:37 PM   #10
gMUVgw71

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
551
Senior Member
Default
Thanks for the grammar check. Hey isn't there supposed to be a period after the "Mr" in your signature?
He's a nitpicker.
gMUVgw71 is offline


Old 08-01-2010, 03:40 PM   #11
gMUVgw71

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
551
Senior Member
Default
The First Barbary War (1801–1805), also known as the Barbary Coast War or the Tripolitan War, was the first of two wars fought between the United States of America (briefly joined by a small Swedish fleet) and the North African states known collectively as the Barbary States. These were the independent Sultanate of Morocco, and the three Regencies of Algiers, Tunis, and Tripoli, which were quasi-independent entities nominally belonging to the Ottoman Empire.

Pirates.

We started off fighting pirates off the coast of Africa.

First Barbary War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
gMUVgw71 is offline


Old 08-01-2010, 03:56 PM   #12
kasandrasikl

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
394
Senior Member
Default
^ I love those wars cuz when anyone pulls that "we're a Christian nation" bollocks I point them to the Treaty of Tripoli.
kasandrasikl is offline


Old 08-01-2010, 04:30 PM   #13
wllsqyuipknczx

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
462
Senior Member
Default
If you'd only done it once, I wouldn't have said anything, but you did it twice in this post (once in the title, once in the body) and I'm pretty sure I've seen you make the same mistake before.

Don't take Bob seriously; he's an angry flower and does not reflect the attitude of this poster.

As to my name, current style guides say that it is acceptable to drop the period when abbreviation prefixes. I prefer to use it in writing. However, I also remember the days when you couldn't have spaces or punctuation in login names in teh Intrawebz, so I still omit them when registering.
Jesus this post makes you look like a real *******.
wllsqyuipknczx is offline


Old 08-01-2010, 05:29 PM   #14
CHEAPCIALISFORYOU

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
454
Senior Member
Default
CHEAPCIALISFORYOU is offline


Old 08-01-2010, 09:19 PM   #15
halfstreet

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
498
Senior Member
Default
Jesus this post makes you look like a real *******.
Has there ever been any suggestion in any of my other posts here that I a) give a flying rat's ass what others think of me or B) worry about what my posts make me "look" lie?
halfstreet is offline


Old 08-01-2010, 09:33 PM   #16
wllsqyuipknczx

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
462
Senior Member
Default
Has there ever been any suggestion in any of my other posts here that I a) give a flying rat's ass what others think of me or B) worry about what my posts make me "look" lie?
That's evident.

Kudos on your hard work although someone who truly doesn't care probably wouldn't have answered my post.
wllsqyuipknczx is offline


Old 08-01-2010, 09:34 PM   #17
CHEAPCIALISFORYOU

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
454
Senior Member
Default
That's evident.

Kudos on your hard work although someone who truly doesn't care probably wouldn't have answered my post.
LOL!
CHEAPCIALISFORYOU is offline



Reply to Thread New Thread

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

All times are GMT +1. The time now is 03:26 PM.
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2
Design & Developed by Amodity.com
Copyright© Amodity