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Not once but twice they both nuclear powered and carrying nuke arms had clashed in Atlantic Ocean, not on the same day but on 3rd & 4th of Feb 2009. Why? Can not be accidental right?



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The crash between HMS Vanguard and France's Le Triomphant - both carrying atomic weapons - is believed to have occurred on February 3 or 4, The Sun claimed.

Despite being equipped with sonar to detect other vessels, neither submarine apparently realised the other was in the same part of the ocean.

A senior Navy source told the newspaper the potential consequences of such a collision were "unthinkable".

He said: "It's very unlikely there would have been a nuclear explosion. But a radioactive leak was a possibility.

"Worse, we could have lost the crew and warheads. That would have been a national disaster."

About 250 sailors were believed to have been on the submarines.

The Ministry of Defence (MoD) refused to confirm the incident had taken place, saying it was against its policy to comment on submarine operations.

However, a spokesman insisted nuclear security had not been breached.

He said: "We can confirm that the UK's deterrent capability has remained unaffected at all times and there has been no compromise to nuclear safety."

Inquiries are under way on both sides of the Channel.

The paper said HMS Vanguard and the Le Triomphant were both damaged in the incident and the British sub has now been towed to Faslane in Scotland for repair.

The Vanguard is one of four nuclear submarines operated by the British military as part of its Trident system - and one is always on deterrent patrol.

Each vessel is 150 metres long and 13 metres in diameter. They can carry boast 16 missiles, weighing 35 tons each, which carry six warheads with a range of about 5,000 miles.

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British and a French nuclear-powered submarines crash in the Atlantic Ocean

From correspondents in London

Agence France-Presse

February 16, 2009 01:50pm



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Collision ... the British and French submarines did not damage their nuclear parts in the crash / British Royal Navy

* Submarines collide in Atlantic Ocean
* Both were carrying nuclear weapons
* No reported damage to nuclear parts

A BRITISH and a French submarine, both of them nuclear-powered and carrying nuclear weapons, collided in the Atlantic Ocean earlier this month, The Sun newspaper reported.

The British tabloid said HMS Vanguard and France's Le Triomphant were both damaged in the incident, but there were no reports of damage to the nuclear parts. The British sub has now been towed to Faslane in Scotland for repair.

Both vessels - between them carrying about 250 sailors - were reportedly submerged and on separate missions when they crashed on February 3 or 4.

The Ministry of Defence refuses to comment on submarine operations but a spokesman said: "We can confirm that the UK's deterrent capability has remained unaffected at all times and there has been no compromise to nuclear safety."

HMS Vanguard is one of four nuclear submarines operated by the British military as part of its Trident system, and one is always on deterrent patrol.
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Each vessel is 150 metres long and 13 metres in diameter, and can carry up to 48 nuclear warheads on a maximum of 16 missiles.

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British, French nuclear subs crash in Atlantic AFP/File – File picture shows the French submarine Triomphant which reportedly collided earlier this month with …

LONDON, (AFP) – A British and a French submarine, both of them nuclear-powered and carrying nuclear weapons, collided in the Atlantic Ocean earlier this month, the Sun newspaper reported on Monday.

The tabloid said HMS Vanguard and France's Le Triomphant were both damaged in the incident, but there were no reports of damage to the nuclear sections of either vessel. The British sub has now been towed to Faslane in Scotland for repair.

Both vessels -- between them carrying about 250 sailors -- were reportedly submerged and on separate missions when they crashed on February 3 or 4.

The Ministry of Defence refuses to comment on submarine operations but a spokesman said: "We can confirm that the UK?s deterrent capability has remained unaffected at all times and there has been no compromise to nuclear safety."

HMS Vanguard, launched in 1992, is a Vanguard class SSBN (Ship Submersible Ballistic Nuclear) vessel, one of four such submarines tasked with maintaining the country's independent nuclear deterrent. The vessel has 16 missile tubes capable of firing the Trident II D5 missile. Each missile can deliver up to 12 warheads.

Triomphant, launched in 1994, is one of four Triomphant Class submarines serving with the French Navy. It carries 16 M51 SLBM missiles and forms part of France's nuclear deterrent force.

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The crash between HMS Vanguard and France's Le Triomphant - both carrying atomic weapons - is believed to have occurred on February 3 or 4, The Sun claimed.

Despite being equipped with sonar to detect other vessels, neither submarine apparently realised the other was in the same part of the ocean.

A senior Navy source told the newspaper the potential consequences of such a collision were "unthinkable".

He said: "It's very unlikely there would have been a nuclear explosion. But a radioactive leak was a possibility.

"Worse, we could have lost the crew and warheads. That would have been a national disaster."

About 250 sailors were believed to have been on the submarines.

The Ministry of Defence (MoD) refused to confirm the incident had taken place, saying it was against its policy to comment on submarine operations.

However, a spokesman insisted nuclear security had not been breached.

He said: "We can confirm that the UK's deterrent capability has remained unaffected at all times and there has been no compromise to nuclear safety."

Inquiries are under way on both sides of the Channel.

The paper said HMS Vanguard and the Le Triomphant were both damaged in the incident and the British sub has now been towed to Faslane in Scotland for repair.

The Vanguard is one of four nuclear submarines operated by the British military as part of its Trident system - and one is always on deterrent patrol.

Each vessel is 150 metres long and 13 metres in diameter. They can carry boast 16 missiles, weighing 35 tons each, which carry six warheads with a range of about 5,000 miles.

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NOT 3rd & 4th of Feb 2009
BUT 3rd OR 4th of Feb 2009

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NOT 3rd & 4th of Feb 2009
BUT 3rd OR 4th of Feb 2009

Yes you are right.

The 1st website I had 1st read was saying AND, must had corrected a typo later. Can be my eyes doing tricks right?