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Old 07-04-2007, 12:32 AM   #1
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Default Three papers axe Coulter's column due to fag remark
That's right, the attention whore of right-thinking America is actually getting the opposite of what she wants.

And she richly deserves it.

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Old 07-04-2007, 12:34 AM   #2
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Old 07-04-2007, 01:30 AM   #3
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Yea censorship!!! Hoooray!!!

You guys have this one completely wrong. The best thing to do with someone like Coulter is to help her spread her message.

The more she talks, the dumber she looks. Let her reduce her own following through her words...

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Old 07-04-2007, 01:32 AM   #4
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Yea censorship!!! Hoooray!!!

You guys have this one completely wrong. The best thing to do with someone like Coulter is to help her spread her message.

The more she talks, the dumber she looks. Let her reduce her own following through her words...

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When your enemy is in the process of destroying himself, stand back and laugh.

Or something like that.
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Old 07-04-2007, 01:34 AM   #5
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Matt why is it ok for Bill Maher say dumb things like wishing for Dick Cheney dead and Ann Coulter cant call Edwards a Fag?


And Better yet,,,If News Papers refuse to carry Ann Coulters column then why HBO Hasnt Fired Bill Maher yet?
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Old 07-04-2007, 01:35 AM   #6
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Matt why is it ok for Bill Maher say dumb things like wishing for Dick Cheney dead and Ann Coulter cant call Edwards a Fag?
Maybe because Bill Maher didn't actually say that and because Ann Coulter is promoting bigotry on the national stage.
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Old 07-04-2007, 01:38 AM   #7
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Maybe because Bill Maher didn't actually say that and because Ann Coulter is promoting bigotry on the national stage.
He did say it.. He said right on HBO on the week when there was Bombing in Afgainstan where Dick Cheney got off the plane and Bill Maher said""" Isnt Dick Chemey Dead yet?""" Now i think HBO should fire him for that remark.
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Old 07-04-2007, 01:45 AM   #8
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He did say it.. He said right on HBO on the week when there was Bombing in Afgainstan where Dick Cheney got off the plane and Bill Maher said""" Isnt Dick Chemey Dead yet?""" Now i think HBO should fire him for that remark.
Wrong. He talked about the right to say it and asked why it was censored from a web site but he never said it as far as it being his personal wish. I saw it live. A discussion of the right to say something and actually saying it are not the same thing. Here it is on YouTube.

YouTube - Bill Maher thinks we should be able to wish Cheney dead
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Old 07-04-2007, 01:47 AM   #9
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Sorry, I'm a little confused, maybe my English isn't so good. You are saying that
"I wish Dick Cheney was dead" is the same thing as the question "Isn't Dick Cheney Dead yet?" How odd since one is a question and the other a statemnent. Even more odd, it's clearly a rhetorical joking question as Dick Cheney is clearly alive.

Uh you're also forgetting that HBO isn't reliant upon sponsorship, so they would only fire Maher if people decided to cancel their membership due to his comment. Fat chance on that happening.
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Old 07-04-2007, 02:00 AM   #10
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That's right, the attention whore of right-thinking America is actually getting the opposite of what she wants.

And she richly deserves it.

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And the whores that suck up what this whore has to say are going to get the opposite of they want too.

And they richly deserve it!

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Old 07-04-2007, 02:10 AM   #11
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Yea censorship!!! Hoooray!!!

You guys have this one completely wrong. The best thing to do with someone like Coulter is to help her spread her message.

The more she talks, the dumber she looks. Let her reduce her own following through her words...

Matt
Except that what she (and Malkin and Limbaugh) put forth are taken as truth (if not gospel) by many. They're dangerous and detrimental to society.
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Old 07-04-2007, 03:26 AM   #12
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Allowing the 101st Screaming Heads - Coulter, Hannity, Malkin, O'Reilly etc. - to spew their bile is okay but the problem is that there aren't enough critical thinkers. Most dittoheads soak up this shit like a sponge and when they're squeezed all that shit runs out just like it did when it was sucked up.
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Old 07-04-2007, 04:01 AM   #13
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Matt why is it ok for Bill Maher say dumb things like wishing for Dick Cheney dead and Ann Coulter cant call Edwards a Fag?
I've read and re-read Ann's comment and it does not call him a faggot.

I take what she said as a satirical comment related to the actor who recently said the same thing and had to get some training or something similar.


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Old 07-04-2007, 04:05 AM   #14
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Except that what she (and Malkin and Limbaugh) put forth are taken as truth (if not gospel) by many. They're dangerous and detrimental to society.
What's "dangerous and detrimental to society" is the socialisim that liberals are trying to impose on America. Anybody that works to stop it is a hero in my book.

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Old 07-04-2007, 04:23 AM   #15
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What's "dangerous and detrimental to society" is the socialisim that liberals are trying to impose on America. Anybody that works to stop it is a hero in my book.

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How is anyone trying to "impose" socialism on America? Socialism isn't "imposed" on an advanced capitalist society, it's usually chosen by the electorate as a viable alternative, in whole or in part (meaning that some policies which might be called 'socialist' are adopted without the wholesale baggage of a socialist state).
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Old 07-04-2007, 05:19 AM   #16
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Yea censorship!!! Hoooray!!!

You guys have this one completely wrong. The best thing to do with someone like Coulter is to help her spread her message.

The more she talks, the dumber she looks. Let her reduce her own following through her words...

Matt
It's not censorship. You are completely wrong.

The Republicans and FOX News have given her a platform to speak on. She has nothing to contribute to political debate except one-liners and an arrogance that drives a the wedge in our nation even deeper.

Two examples of what is and what is not censorship.

On the T.V. news and newspaper, you have the war topic covered by politicians and generals. The war topic is grossly tilted towards those that 'engage' in war and support it. The news hardly covers protests and hardly any anti-war advocates are able to make their case through the public media. This is fact. There is no argument on this - or at least shouldn't be. There are many intelligent anti-war activists perfectly capable of making a compelling argument for the end to war. This is censorship when a whole idea (anti-war) is being shunned by the media. This even has more impact on news media that claim to be fair and balanced.

So to put it all into context on the second example. I wouldn't call Coutler an intelligent debater. She is an overt partisan hack. She only hands out insults and unfounded accusations.

The anti-war argument is what deserves equal play on our news. anti-war is a very important facet to deal with when going to war. It needs to be heard. It is news, it is valid, it is information that should be shared with the American people to uphold the standards in journalism and new reporting.

Coulter has freedom of speech. She has every right to speak. What is not owed to her is a platform to speak on. There is nowhere in the constitution that says those that want to speak are owed a platform to speak on. It is up to the speaker to find an audience and no one group, entity, or person is obligated to provide her a forum or podium. Ann Coulter is losing her credibility along with approval and newpapers reacting to public criticism is not censorship but an example freedom of speech, itself, working.

The beauty of America and freedom of speech is that those that have the ability to communicate their views finds appeal with the public and the audience grows. This would be the case with Ann Coulter, but not with Prof. Noam Chomsky. Ann Coulter is an example of freedom of speech in motion. Chomsky is an example of outright censorship because of his mass appeal around the world in contrast to the censorship that won't allow him a couple minutes on T.V.

On your other point. Coulter itself (see what I did there?) is not the focus of concern. Pulling the plug on her microphone isn't something that is going to help shield the conservative party. The damage has already been done.

What Coulter has done is reveal the conservative base itself, which worries many Americans. It's not the words she says that is of paramount concern, it is the base of a political party that applauds her. She reveals that there is something very wrong with the conservative party. It is those that smile at her words that worry Americans.

CPAC is a vile group that applauds racist intents, whether it be the minority or homosexual targets. Applauding Coulter only reaffirms that notion.
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Old 07-04-2007, 05:41 AM   #17
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Yea censorship!!! Hoooray!!!

You guys have this one completely wrong. The best thing to do with someone like Coulter is to help her spread her message.

The more she talks, the dumber she looks. Let her reduce her own following through her words...

Matt
It's not censorship, they aren't stopping her from spreading her message, the three newspapers just aren't paying her to do it anymore, probably because they feel Ann Coulter is not a draw anymore, she's lost her appeal, and people aren't reading her column, which is why she is desperately trying to gin up some publicity, she just declared that being a Republican is illegal, in an attempt to garner some publicity to boost her sagging book sales.

In a year or two, "Ann Coulter" will be the answer to a trivia question.
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Old 07-04-2007, 05:59 AM   #18
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Matt, why would anyone what to help a loudmouthed obnoxious asshole spread her message?

Shouldn't we be working to spread the truth instead?
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Old 07-04-2007, 06:34 AM   #19
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*shrug*

She made an asinine comment, and her employers are reacting to it, as is their right. I don't have much sympathy for her.
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Old 07-04-2007, 07:41 AM   #20
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You're missing the point. When dealing with a demagogue, the best thing to do IMHO is let them rant, thus exposing themselves for the fool that they are.

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