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02-14-2007, 03:16 PM | #1 |
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It seems our only MULSIM congressman doesn't have a problem destroying traditions of the congress but when it comes to a man smoking a cigar in the building next to his he feels that's worth calling the policy on.
Sounds like just another fruit loop the Dems out west have put in office. Rep. Ellison calls the cops to snuff Tancredos cigar Varus |
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02-14-2007, 04:13 PM | #2 |
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02-14-2007, 04:46 PM | #3 |
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02-14-2007, 04:53 PM | #4 |
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It helps if you read the story. Ellison didn't actually call the cops. His press sec called the super's office.
But I can't blame you altogether. Even your biased right wing blogger got it wrong in her headline. Ellison’s press secretary, Rick Jauert, made the call to the Superintendent’s office when he noticed the smoke. “I called because the smoke was coming through the walls,” Jauert said, adding that the Superintendent’s office referred him to the Capitol Police. Jauert said he then informed his boss what he had done. He said “fine,” Jauert said. “He’s complained of the smoke before.” |
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02-14-2007, 05:03 PM | #5 |
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It helps if you read the story. Ellison didn't actually call the cops. His press sec called the super's office. The officer had already told Ellison that Tancredo was permitted to smoke in his office. The visit was more a formality. I stand on my first comment. |
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02-14-2007, 05:15 PM | #6 |
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But your first comment says Ellison called the cops. You see that it's not true yet you stand by that?
The aid called the super. Ellison said fine. Tancredo is allowed to smoke in his office. His smoke bothers people and he doesn't care. That's it, it's not a very interesting story really. It happens all the time. People smoke and other people don't like it. |
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02-14-2007, 05:19 PM | #7 |
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But your first comment says Ellison called the cops. You see that it's not true yet you stand by that? Varus |
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02-14-2007, 05:27 PM | #8 |
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But your first comment says Ellison called the cops. You see that it's not true yet you stand by that? Once again, I stand by my first comments. |
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02-14-2007, 05:29 PM | #9 |
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He approved the call...But it's just funny that someone who raised such a fuss about not being able to use the Koran to be sworn in on is willing to allow the police to be called over a cigar...not even in the same building. That building should be condemned because it sure can't be meeting government building codes. |
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02-14-2007, 06:17 PM | #10 |
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02-14-2007, 06:18 PM | #11 |
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02-14-2007, 07:14 PM | #12 |
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This is how it all went down. On Wednesday evening, around 6 p.m., Tancredo was preparing for his trip to Mississippi. And as he so often does, he was unwinding with a cigar.
Soon enough, however, a police officer walked in to check on the smoke. Ellison’s press secretary, Rick Jauert, made the call to the Superintendent’s office when he noticed the smoke. “I called because the smoke was coming through the walls,” Jauert said, adding that the Superintendent’s office referred him to the Capitol Police. NOWHERE in the article does it mention that Ellison or his aide wanted Tancredo to stop smoking in his office. Anyone who press this is just spinning another conservaganda. According to the article, the police arrived to check on the smoke - NOT to tell Tancredo to stop smoking. What Ellison wanted Tancredo to do (if any) is not mentioned. Perhaps Ellison's staff was alarmed and worried that it could be something else, like a fire. Perhaps they just wanted to check and make sure Tancredo's cigar was put out properly and didn't cause a fire like some cigarette butts have been known to do. Perhaps they just wanted Tancredo to smoke his cigar in such a way that it doesn't cause smoke to creep into the next room. What was said between Ellison's staff, the super, and the police is not mentioned in the article. BOTTOM LINE: Ellison has not said, or even inferred that he wants Tancredo to stop smoking in the office. This is just another spin from the spin-happy right. |
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02-15-2007, 12:47 AM | #13 |
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NOWHERE in the article does it mention that Ellison or his aide wanted Tancredo to stop smoking in his office. Anyone who press this is just spinning another conservaganda. |
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02-15-2007, 12:53 AM | #14 |
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02-15-2007, 01:03 AM | #15 |
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02-15-2007, 01:08 AM | #16 |
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You said you were betting it's not the real story. You said he called the cops. (he didn't, his aid called the super of the building). You said you think this isn't the first time Ellison called the cops (you keep forgetting he didn't, according to the link). You said the building can't be meeting code. It's all just a bunch of drivel. No offense. But where are the facts in this discussion? the story is so stupid in the first place that there isn't much to discuss, so a whole bunch of stuff is made up, it's even made up in the link - see the title.
Most buildings have a no smoking rule. Perhaps the congressional offices need that rule too.... |
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02-15-2007, 01:51 AM | #17 |
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What more annoys me is that Congress allows themselves to smoke in their offices whilst banning it for others from choosing to do so. I've always felt smoke bans on private property was intrusive nanny statism, but Congressional offices are public property and yet they allow themselves an exception. I don't have a problem with them allowing it in their offices, but it is awfully hypocritical to tell others, especially those on private property, to not do so by law. Then again, hypocrisy and self-given special privileges come hand in hand with politicians.
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02-15-2007, 02:30 AM | #18 |
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Perhaps Ellisons staff are morons that can't smell cigar smoke.....I'm betting that isn't the really story, because I have my doubts that the cigar smoke was creeping through the wall. |
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02-15-2007, 03:04 AM | #19 |
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He approved the call...But it's just funny that someone who raised such a fuss about not being able to use the Koran to be sworn in on is willing to allow the police to be called over a cigar...not even in the same building. |
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02-15-2007, 03:33 AM | #20 |
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What more annoys me is that Congress allows themselves to smoke in their offices whilst banning it for others from choosing to do so. I've always felt smoke bans on private property was intrusive nanny statism, but Congressional offices are public property and yet they allow themselves an exception. I don't have a problem with them allowing it in their offices, but it is awfully hypocritical to tell others, especially those on private property, to not do so by law. Then again, hypocrisy and self-given special privileges come hand in hand with politicians. |
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