[BalaGire]

WASHINGTON - House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (news, bio, voting record) said Thursday that
President Bush lacks the authority to invade
Iran without specific approval from Congress, a fresh challenge to the commander in chief on the eve of a symbolic vote critical of his troop buildup in
Iraq.

Pelosi, D-Calif., noted that Bush consistently said he supports a diplomatic resolution to differences with Iran "and I take him at his word."

At the same time, she said, "I do believe that Congress should assert itself, though, and make it very clear that there is no previous authority for the president, any president, to go into Iran."

Pelosi spoke in an interview in the Capitol as the House moved through a third marathon day of debate on a nonbinding measure that disapproves of the military buildup in Iraq while expressing support for the troops.

Passage of the measure was expected Friday, and across the Capitol, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (news, bio, voting record) unexpectedly announced plans to hold a test vote Saturday.

Partisan bickering has prevented a Senate vote on the troop increase, with Republicans insisting on equal treatment for an alternative rules out the "elimination or reduction of funds for troops in the field."

Pelosi and other Democrats have said approval on the nonbinding measure would mark the first step in an effort by the new Democratic-controlled Congress to force Bush to change course in a war that has killed more than 3,100 U.S. troops. Pelosi: Bush lacks power to invade Iran - Yahoo! News

Pelosi forgot all about the 1973 War Powers Act

[Abedgebeefs]

Not to mention that he has not ordered the invasion of Iran.

/chuckle


Senility will do that to a woman-wanabe-queen

[estheticianI]

Not to mention that he has not ordered the invasion of Iran.

/chuckle


Senility will do that to a woman-wanabe-queen

The only woman who wanted to be Queen up until now was Nancy Reagan All those shenanigans with Raisa Gorbachev and Queen Elizabeth. How ridiculous they made her look!

Has anyone mentioned to Meridious that women may become senile as they get older, but men become senile AND impotent!!! Not to mention all that prostate trouble!

[ahagotyou]

Bush administration officials and their allies are resigned to House passage of the resolution and have worked in recent days to hold down defections by GOP lawmakers.

But Bush took a swipe at his critics during the day.

"This may become the first time in the history of the United States Congress that it has voted to send a new commander into battle and then voted to oppose his plan that is necessary to succeed in that battle," the president said.

Looks like Bush hit the nail right on the head there. The senate just voted to confirm General Petraeus unanimously, then they turn right around, flip-flop, and say they do not support his strategy.

Why confirm him if you are against him??

WTF??

[Abedgebeefs]

Why confirm him if you are against him??

Hrmmm.

Seems like a LOT of that has been going on in the New Lib party of late.

[BalaGire]

Just Like Hillary Flip Flopped she was all for the war in 2002.. Then she turns around and says if i was president back in 2002 i would not authozied the war. NOW Which Hillary Rodham do you BELIVE?

[Andoror]

I bet the enemy is just eating this sh_t up boy…

[jinnamys]

Pelosi: Bush lacks power to invade Iran - Yahoo! News

Pelosi forgot all about the 1973 War Powers Act

Considering that Pres Bush has not ordered the invasion and has repeatedly denied that the administration is invading Iran, Pelosii is only playing partisan poltiics to move her score up with the ultra left, namely the anti-war and pro impeachment crowd. Politics has not changed in Washington whatsoever in the last 200 years. That is the only constant in Washington DC.

[stunnyravytal]

With any luck, Iran will provoke an incident that will make this all a mute point. One can only hope.

Bush will not allow Iran to develop nuclear weapons, and should do anything necessary to prevent this from happening.

[Zpxbawtz]

I bet the enemy is just eating this sh_t up boy…

Do you really think the "enemy" gives a fuck what Nancy Pelosi thinks? Do you think that's their inspiration? Do you think they put her quotes up on the chalkboard in the locker room before they go into battle?

[Sironimoll]

Originally Posted by hairballxavier
Why confirm him if you are against him?? Because they have to have SOMEONE in his position, but it doesn't mean they support the policy or the new strategy. The senate confirms all kinds of people who they later take to the mat, Secretary Rice or Attorney General Ashcroft for example. No one is confused on the Dems positoin, they are against the perpetuation of this ridiculosly failed war. Oh and the enemy? I have a feeling they take more comfort in their ability to destabilize our plans than they do about what individual American politicians are saying.

[scewDeasp]

Do you really think the "enemy" gives a fuck what Nancy Pelosi thinks? Do you think that's their inspiration? Do you think they put her quotes up on the chalkboard in the locker room before they go into battle?

Yes they do and yes it does. What Pelosi and the cut and run party do is embolden our enemy. They (our enemies) know that if they step up the violence they are more likely to hear the shrill voices of people like Pelosi and Clinton saying we need to run for cover. Big media then plasters the airwaves and their editorials supporting we "get out of a war we can't win".

What if all we heard out of Iraq from the insurgent leadership was that they don't think they can win? That polls show the war is unpopular? That they need to get out of Iraq with a definite timetable? Would we be having this conversation or would we be the ones stepping up our strategy to reinforce that notion? Does logic and human nature fail you that much?

[DrCeshing]

Nancy Pelosi does not embolden the enemy.

People who think that our dissent emboldens the enemy reveal something about themselves when they say that, because what they're saying is, "The only strategy we have in Iraq is "faith" and "hope", and if you don't "believe" in our "strategy" that emboldens the enemy".

As I've said before, I would never accuse Americans of being too quick, so I must reiterate that the only thing emboldening the enemy is the fact that we're there in the first place. What also emboldens them is the fact that Bush has no strategy, that's why he's repeating all the same old shit over there, like this supposedly new strategy to crackdown on terrorists. Guess what? It's going to produce the same results. How do I know that? Common sense tells me so. Militia groups have disbanded and are lying low, waiting for America to have all those new troops in place, and then you'll see, they'll start picking us off one by one. It's digusting and grossly incompetent what Bush has decided, in defiance of his own people, and it just breaks my heart. We're repeating all the same mistakes.

Wake up America.

[DrCeshing]

Doctor Who, that makes no sense. What you seem not to understand is the fact that it's a really big crime for America, in many people's minds, that we're on middle-eastern soil in the first place. These people are crazy. As long as we're there they will try to kill us, no matter what. If we stay, then you really ought to understand that this will keep going for generations and generations.

The basic fact that we're there is more than reason enough for terrorists to keep at it, and since the borders aren't secure and Iran and Syria and goodness knows who else is sending in foreign fighters to kill us, it really doesn't matter what Nancy Pelosi thinks or what Cindy Sheehan is doing this week.

Bush got the trust of liberals, and then conducted this war pretty much all by himself, while Republicans held absolute power for nearly the entire war thus far, and then they still come out and try to blame liberals. That would be appalling enough on it's own, but what makes it worse is that the war crowd still clings to "hope" and "faith" as war strategies. Sentamentalists running a war. Lovely.

[corolaelwis]

NOW Which Hillary Rodham do you BELIVE?

None...but then again she's just following in the footsteps of the previous candidate nominated by her party (for Pres), who of course infamously, voted for funding for the war before he voted aganst it....

[DrCeshing]

Oh brother, not this debate again! I don't think there's anything wrong with saying, "I gave the President my trust at the beginning of this war, but he has completely failed us and betrayed our trust through his ineptitude and stubborness. I continue to allow funding for our troops because since we're there, we have to make the best of it until we can create the conditions necessary to leave".

You're not a hypocrite for going against the war after you voted for it, because it was the President and his party who conducted it, and it's by the way, the most ridiculous American fiasco of all time. I was close to giving Bush the benefit of the doubt 4 years ago, but I'm glad I didn't because he completely blew it.

[scewDeasp]

Nancy Pelosi does not embolden the enemy.

People who think that our dissent emboldens the enemy reveal something about themselves when they say that, because what they're saying is, "The only strategy we have in Iraq is "faith" and "hope", and if you don't "believe" in our "strategy" that emboldens the enemy".

As I've said before, I would never accuse Americans of being too quick, so I must reiterate that the only thing emboldening the enemy is the fact that we're there in the first place. What also emboldens them is the fact that Bush has no strategy, that's why he's repeating all the same old shit over there, like this supposedly new strategy to crackdown on terrorists. Guess what? It's going to produce the same results. How do I know that? Common sense tells me so. Militia groups have disbanded and are lying low, waiting for America to have all those new troops in place, and then you'll see, they'll start picking us off one by one. It's digusting and grossly incompetent what Bush has decided, in defiance of his own people, and it just breaks my heart. We're repeating all the same mistakes.

Wake up America.

Dissent is fine Jason. When it is coupled with real solutions other than "we can't win". We can win. The debate should be about how we go about that, not how we fail. Democrats embrace failure, always have and I see no winds of change. So if you want to hang on to that, that's your right. Just try to use a synapse or two to help you undertsand that if you are in a battle with your enemy and declare your intention to get out of it as soon as you can because you think you can't win, they are going to step up the assault. You liberals always say we should not repeat the mistakes of Vietnam. That, in and of itself, should give you a clue. I won't generalize as you did about your country's ability to think, but you sir, are ignorant about what motivates people.

[VioletttaJosetta]

First off, if we attack Iran won't we be in violation of the Algiers Accords? We are not to intervene in Iranian internal affairs.

Pelosi forgot all about the 1973 War Powers Act

The act doesn't trump the constitution, which says congress declares war.

With any luck, Iran will provoke an incident that will make this all a mute point. One can only hope.

So you hope Iran attacks someone and people are killed? Awful nice of you. How about just hoping for peace.

What if all we heard out of Iraq from the insurgent leadership was that they don't think they can win? That polls show the war is unpopular? That they need to get out of Iraq with a definite timetable? Would we be having this conversation or would we be the ones stepping up our strategy to reinforce that notion? Does logic and human nature fail you that much?

So you are saying we should appease the enemy, or make our plans based on what they think?

You're not a hypocrite for going against the war after you voted for it, because it was the President and his party who conducted it

Thats not really the point though. Most are against the war on principle from the beginning, not because of how it was run.

We can win.

Bushiepoo is gonna end thousands of years of middle eastern in-fighting? Oh please tell me how.

We can't 'win'.

You liberals always say we should not repeat the mistakes of Vietnam.

Oh my god, not another person defending the vietnam conflict......

So you are saying that even if a war was a mistake, we should continue being the bad guys and keep fighting just so we won't 'lose'? By just being there we are losers.