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Old 10-03-2007, 02:17 AM   #1
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Default John Edwards' plan for Health Insurance
My friend just sent me this email.

Dear Samantha,

Hi! I just signed up as a supporter of John Edwards' plan for universal health care, and I'm hoping you'll do the same.

It's about time someone came out with a clear, bold plan that will make sure every single American gets top quality health care at prices we can actually afford. Now that John Edwards has stepped up, those of us who support universal health care have to speak out.

This kind of huge change can't happen from the top down. The whole idea is that we are all responsible - responsible for our national health care system, and responsible for building the popular support we need to make it happen.

To begin, just sign up as a supporter at:
John Edwards for President - Stand Up for Universal Health Care

Then, join me in pledging to talk to just three other people this week about Edwards' plan for universal health care. Just by having these crucial conversations, we can each start moving America in a better direction. As Edwards always says: tomorrow begins today.

Sincerely,
Scott I am going to guess that at least three people will read this so I've fulfilled my pledge Here is his plan:

Under the Edwards Plan:

  • Families without insurance will get coverage at an affordable price.
  • Families with insurance will pay less and get more security and choices.
  • Businesses and other employers will find it cheaper and easier to insure their workers.

    The Edwards Plan achieves universal coverage by:
  • Requiring businesses and other employers to either cover their employees or help finance their health insurance.
  • Making insurance affordable by creating new tax credits, expanding Medicaid and SCHIP, reforming insurance laws, and taking innovative steps to contain health care costs.
  • Creating regional "Health Markets" to let every American share the bargaining power to purchase an affordable, high-quality health plan, increase choices among insurance plans, and cut costs for businesses offering insurance.
  • Once these steps have been taken, requiring all American residents to get insurance.
  • Securing universal healthcare for every American will require the active involvement of millions of Americans.


John Edwards for President
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Old 10-03-2007, 02:47 AM   #2
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Good fucking luck................
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Old 10-03-2007, 02:54 AM   #3
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Let me know when you guys wake up from your dream.
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Old 10-03-2007, 03:56 AM   #4
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So what happens when the government has control over our health care interests? They will suddenly have the authority to deny us from doing things that we love doing because they pose an unnecessary risk to our health.
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Old 10-03-2007, 04:13 AM   #5
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Yes, more socialism please. This country is not totalitarian enough.
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Old 11-02-2007, 11:35 AM   #6
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Where's Edwards' plan for protecting medical providers from bogus lawsuits?

He's a complete hypocrite when it comes to health care costs. He's part of the industry that has made them so high to begin with - sleazy malpractice lawyers.

We have a major insurance crisis in the country, one which Edwards helped create. Because of predatory lawyers who will go to court and argue that every birth defect is caused by malpractice, OB/GYNs are going out of business across the country. Malpractice insurance premiums of over $100,000 a year are common, even for physicians who have never had a malpractice claim.

Matt
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Old 11-02-2007, 02:49 PM   #7
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So what happens when the government has control over our health care interests? They will suddenly have the authority to deny us from doing things that we love doing because they pose an unnecessary risk to our health.
Has this happened in any other country that has universal health coverage?
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Old 11-02-2007, 02:56 PM   #8
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Where's Edwards' plan for protecting medical providers from bogus lawsuits?

He's a complete hypocrite when it comes to health care costs. He's part of the industry that has made them so high to begin with - sleazy malpractice lawyers.

We have a major insurance crisis in the country, one which Edwards helped create. Because of predatory lawyers who will go to court and argue that every birth defect is caused by malpractice, OB/GYNs are going out of business across the country. Malpractice insurance premiums of over $100,000 a year are common, even for physicians who have never had a malpractice claim.

Matt
It works like this Matt, if the lawsuit is bogus, the jury finds for the defendant.

Remember the OB/GYN that Bush brought up onto his campaign platform and introduced as a doctor forced out by high premiums, the reason this doctor had to pay high premiums was because one time during the delivery of a baby, he got hungry, and went out and got something to eat, leaving the patient unattended, and leaving the baby to suffer irreparable brain damage.

Imagine, the insurance companies raised this guy's premiums.
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Old 11-02-2007, 03:05 PM   #9
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It works like this Matt, if the lawsuit is bogus, the jury finds for the defendant.
ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's hillarious, Goober. Really. Excellent comedy.

The jury finds for whoever puts on the better show in these cases.

Take a CP case. If the plaintiff has a charismatic, ethically bankrupt lawyer who can put on a good show of claiming to channel the (not dead) child, the jury returns a sympathy verdict.

Throughout the country, there are attorneys who capitalize on the scientifically flawed position that every birth defect is caused by a doctor who must then pay millions.

Oh, yeah, and the lawyer gets half (typically 40% plus costs).

Remember the OB/GYN that Bush brought up onto his campaign platform and introduced as a doctor forced out by high premiums, the reason this doctor had to pay high premiums was because one time during the delivery of a baby, he got hungry, and went out and got something to eat, leaving the patient unattended, and leaving the baby to suffer irreparable brain damage.

Imagine, the insurance companies raised this guy's premiums.
For every one of those, there are probably 20 OB/GYNs who have never even been accused of malpractice paying six figure premiums.

If they don't leave the specialty, that is.

Every time you hear about how some poor malpractice victim was awarded millions, just remember - the lawyer walked off with half (or more). And then next time you pay your health insurance premium, understand that the costs you pay are directly related to the costs of these suits on the medical industry as a whole.

Matt
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Old 11-02-2007, 03:09 PM   #10
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With a plan like this, he'll have the moron vote sewed up. The only question is how big that vote will be.
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Old 11-02-2007, 03:38 PM   #11
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Yes, more socialism please. This country is not totalitarian enough.
I thought we already had enough socialism with our current warfare-state mentality.
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Old 11-02-2007, 03:45 PM   #12
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The Edwards Plan achieves universal coverage by:
Taxing people like me much more to cover the 48% of Americans who pay little to no income tax.
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Old 11-02-2007, 03:51 PM   #13
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Samantha! You touched a nerve with the Bush Crowd out there. Don't you know about natural selection? It's really important that working people waste lots of their wages on an inefficient medical care system. People born into wealth, however, are exempt from this important testing process, because they've already proven their genetic superiority just by being born.

Don't you know even THINKING about making medical care more efficient is Socialism!

(Oh, by the way, we need a few more billions to bail out some poorly-run industries like the airlines and the insurance companies after 9-11. Wouldn't want the idle rich to suffer any hardship. That might disrupt the economy.)
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Old 11-02-2007, 03:54 PM   #14
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So you prefer to pay high prices for healthcare to keep leeches like Edwards extravagantly fed, NoMcW?

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Old 11-02-2007, 03:58 PM   #15
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Taxing people like me much more to cover the 48% of Americans who pay little to no income tax.
No that's Bush's plan. Where does Edwards plan say that?
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Old 11-02-2007, 03:59 PM   #16
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Samantha! You touched a nerve with the Bush Crowd out there.
Disputing Edward's asinine plan makes one a member of "the Bush Crowd"?
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Old 11-02-2007, 04:01 PM   #17
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Those without health coverage arrived there due to thier own laziness or stupidity. Why should we be punished for our dilegence and be forced to care for these inferiors?

If you are without coverage, stop being so lazy and get a better job that includes heathcare.
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Old 11-02-2007, 04:06 PM   #18
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I would agree with that sentiment, if we had a zero percent unemployment rate.
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Old 11-02-2007, 04:06 PM   #19
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Those without health coverage arrived there due to thier own laziness or stupidity. Why should we be punished for our dilegence and be forced to care for these inferiors?

If you are without coverage, stop being so lazy and get a better job that includes heathcare.
This is the new Jesus worshipping mindset
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Old 11-02-2007, 04:56 PM   #20
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My friend just sent me this email.



I am going to guess that at least three people will read this so I've fulfilled my pledge Here is his plan:

Under the Edwards Plan:

  • Families without insurance will get coverage at an affordable price.
  • Families with insurance will pay less and get more security and choices.
  • Businesses and other employers will find it cheaper and easier to insure their workers.

    The Edwards Plan achieves universal coverage by:
  • Requiring businesses and other employers to either cover their employees or help finance their health insurance.
  • Making insurance affordable by creating new tax credits, expanding Medicaid and SCHIP, reforming insurance laws, and taking innovative steps to contain health care costs.
  • Creating regional "Health Markets" to let every American share the bargaining power to purchase an affordable, high-quality health plan, increase choices among insurance plans, and cut costs for businesses offering insurance.
  • Once these steps have been taken, requiring all American residents to get insurance.
  • Securing universal healthcare for every American will require the active involvement of millions of Americans.


John Edwards for President
Sorry but it has to be shown to be more comprehensive than this shows for me to support it. The Key in this plan to true universal health care (especially for the poor) is apparently Tax Credits which I totally oppose for ANY Purpose. they are welfare, and should be classed as welfare and nothing else.

Besides throwing money to people to pay for it is not the way.

(because they will use it for something else..The only way, is to PROVIDE THE SERVICES not the money to PAY for the services.)
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