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Old 01-03-2007, 01:42 AM   #21
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So...Gore gets all kinds of credit for the works of others.

Just like a politician.

I'm fairly neutral in my attitudes towards him. However, "An Inconvenient Truth" said absolutely nothing that I had not already heard or read about by people far more qualified.

That's okay. There always has to be someone's ass to kiss in this world and I guess his is going to get really sloppy over the next few months.
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Old 02-02-2007, 10:21 AM   #22
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So...Gore gets all kinds of credit for the works of others.

Just like a politician.

I'm fairly neutral in my attitudes towards him. However, "An Inconvenient Truth" said absolutely nothing that I had not already heard or read about by people far more qualified.

That's okay. There always has to be someone's ass to kiss in this world and I guess his is going to get really sloppy over the next few months.
Taking credit for others work is a Liberal trait! EXAMPLES:

Gore
Kerry in Vietnam
The Clintons
Nancy Loosepussy
Liberal Socialist Congress...etc
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Old 02-02-2007, 10:58 AM   #23
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Gore Totally deserves it.

He's been trying to spread awareness of Global Warming for something like 20 years.... much longer than the public has even known the term.

It's not like he's saving the world, but indeed, he could be one of the most influential figures in an eventual movement that can effectively solve the problem.
Actually he knows there is no global warming, the fuck owns a strip mine for goodness sakes.
You people are being decieved.
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Old 02-02-2007, 11:27 AM   #24
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What does Global Warming have to do with Peace?

The Nobel Peace Prize 1901-2000

The prize has historically been about ending conflict. Now we're going to lump in "global warming activism" as a peaceful endeavor? Does this mean that we can create some new cliches: "Global warming advocates don't declare war on each other, YYYYEEEEEAAAARRRRRGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!"

This is about as lame as the redefining of the "doomsday clock" to include global warming.
The weather channel won’t hire meteorologists that don’t believe in global warming and there talking about decertifying all that don’t also. There doing the same shit they did with Darwinism back in the 70’s. No scientific journals, publishing’s or text books that contradict evolution theory.
If they succeed in getting the young and weak-minded to believe these Nam era movements, say bye bye to your way of life. These sandal wearing ten-speed riding Nam era *cough* scientists still can ride to the Organic Tofu Outlet near campus.
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Old 02-02-2007, 12:46 PM   #25
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Al Gore has dedicated nearly 40 years of his life to the study of climate change. He's written books about it, and his movie is one of the best movies of 2006. Like "My Dinner With Andre", "An Inconvenient Truth" showed how a movie doesn't have to be told the same old way. He's passionate, enlightening, and funny, and if America had had 6 years with him instead of Bush, you wouldn't be stuck in the pointless nightmare that is the war in Iraq.

Any Republican VP with his record of reducing debt and helping to create the Kyoto Accord in '97 would be seen as a saint in the Republican Party, so give the man his due. He's actually been a straight up guy all these years, working for the people, not the powerful, not himself. He's a man of dignity, a statesman, and his argument about the climate crisis has shifted the debate in America significantly enough that global warming is now a non-debate unless you're a numbskull righty in America suffering from denial and working for big oil or gas. It's funny, even evangelicals support the environment, and many have broken with the administration since they've discovered that the White House isn't doing anything about it.
ah huh the “Fahrenheit 911” of global warming..and his mass of inaccuracies , exaggerations plus overheated arguments mean nothing …if his case was that strong, he would not have resorted to scare tactics and wild exaggerations…..if you are the types to be lulled inot a womb of belief by subtle visual propaganda then Leni Riefenstahl might be your hero…...the heck with "truth"...if its true to him and a handful that believe everything he spouts lets recognize him………….. sure okay...

regards numbskull righty, there ya go, perferct...if we don't beleive we must be idiots. The lib mantra....

the doubts were there regards kyoto from the beggining...


Clinton administration economists say that, in retrospect, their low cost estimates were unrealistic. They assumed that:

China and India would accept binding emission limits and would fully participate in the emissions-trading system, even though they never signed the treaty.
European opposition to emissions trading could be overcome.
Most industries and consumers would quickly adopt new, energy-efficient technologies, such as advanced air conditioning systems and gas-electric "hybrid" cars, without financial incentives.

Since 1997, however, it has become clear that consumers love their gas-guzzling sport-utility vehicles and aren't embracing energy-efficient technologies; China has no intention of participating in the treaty; and Europe still wants to limit emissions trading as a partial solution to global warming.

Todd Stern, Clinton's global warming coordinator, says that the Europeans would likely go along with an unlimited trading system if the Bush administration would return to the negotiating table to produce a revised treaty it could sign. However, he concedes that China won't participate for now.

Even so, Clinton economists say, Bush could have tried to revise the treaty to reflect these new realities. By simply walking away from it, he is letting the Europeans portray the United States as the villain, even though they privately admit that they, too, may be unable to comply with the treaty. "George Bush has done all the work for the Europeans," says Robert Lawrence, a Clinton administration economist now at Harvard University's Kennedy School of Government.

Lindsey, however, insists that the Kyoto Protocol is beyond repair. "The models are not even close in suggesting Kyoto was the right approach," he says. "It was wrong. I think we did the right thing."



USATODAY.com - Ex-Clinton aides admit Kyoto treaty flawed
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Old 02-02-2007, 12:58 PM   #26
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The weather channel won’t hire meteorologists that don’t believe in global warming and there talking about decertifying all that don’t also. There doing the same shit they did with Darwinism back in the 70’s. No scientific journals, publishing’s or text books that contradict evolution theory.
agreed.....they take the scientific debate or any dissenters OUT of the public realm so they can broadcast information they pick and choose to buttress their position...they will browbeat the public until they just accept it or get tired of it and just accept it through exhaustion…. while they go merrily along ignoring other science and practicalities that make deeply kyoto flawed...but the heck with that..lets just get on the bandwagon...

and of course we have senators one from each party who write a letter to Exxon et al subtly threatening them , telling them to get out of the global warming debate…very scientific and abhorrent to the public interest.
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Old 02-02-2007, 02:12 PM   #27
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Originally Posted by Hank Originally Posted by Curly Thought this was interesting.

Gore earns Nobel nomination for global warming work

Nice to see that someone thinks Gore's work has been worthwhile.
Yea, really says a lot for the integrity of infra-working systems…
Everything is breaking down. The park census system changed there figures and apologized to the black community on there 183,000 -240,000 -350,000 million man count, exit polls after the al-gore/president Bush ballots for the first time in history began picking democrats at a 35% inaccuracy rate, a voting system used for generations suddenly doesn’t work because democrats keep loosing, marriage licensing for anybody wanting to marry anything, on and on with every freaking thing they touch. Ummmm what?

anyways, good for Gore whether he wins or not
Sorry, that was kinda general.
(Bear with me. Were having kind of an emergency down here. I still have power but have roof damage and am hunting down relatives. There’s another tornado on the ground right now about 50 miles from where I live.)

These organizations are becoming like the academy awards did in the 1980‘s. For the first time since there construct, your generation is witnessing exclusive normalization and conditioning now reaching every information and entertainment source.
Integrity lose is resulting in every aspect of society and system structure.

A trader that during time of war who would call his own president a war criminal during time of war and enemy propaganda getting a noble peace prize is just laughable to me.
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Old 02-02-2007, 04:09 PM   #28
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Al Gore has dedicated nearly 40 years of his life to the study of climate change. He's written books about it, and his movie is one of the best movies of 2006. Like "My Dinner With Andre", "An Inconvenient Truth" showed how a movie doesn't have to be told the same old way. He's passionate, enlightening, and funny, and if America had had 6 years with him instead of Bush, you wouldn't be stuck in the pointless nightmare that is the war in Iraq.

Any Republican VP with his record of reducing debt and helping to create the Kyoto Accord in '97 would be seen as a saint in the Republican Party, so give the man his due. He's actually been a straight up guy all these years, working for the people, not the powerful, not himself. He's a man of dignity, a statesman, and his argument about the climate crisis has shifted the debate in America significantly enough that global warming is now a non-debate unless you're a numbskull righty in America suffering from denial and working for big oil or gas. It's funny, even evangelicals support the environment, and many have broken with the administration since they've discovered that the White House isn't doing anything about it.
you have an expremely rosey glow regarding this nothing. and the accomplishments you attribute to him. I don't know where you got that info, butThat's oK, your opinion, and your right to it. I am not in any way minimizing the Global Warming. I AM MINIMIZING GORE
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Old 02-02-2007, 04:14 PM   #29
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Taking credit for others work is a Liberal trait! EXAMPLES:

Gore
Kerry in Vietnam
The Clintons
Nancy Loosepussy
Liberal Socialist Congress...etc
MY MY MY, you really like Liberals don't you????? You remind me of the little fourth grad boy who says, I don't like Girls --especially Mary (or whatever his favorite's name is)

Methinks you're a "closet Liberal", or at least very envious of us.
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Old 02-02-2007, 04:19 PM   #30
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Actually he knows there is no global warming, the fuck owns a strip mine for goodness sakes.
You people are being decieved.
So he owns a strip mine.

Whether true or not what has that to do with Global warming?
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Old 02-02-2007, 05:13 PM   #31
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So he owns a strip mine.

Whether true or not what has that to do with Global warming?
If You noticed, I said THOSE Socialist-Stalinistas, I did not say ALL Liberals!

While your doubting what a Poster said, Gore is a pretty big stockholder in Occidental Oil, founded by Armand Hammer, who was Gore Sr's buddie and fellow Commie!

They drill mainly in South America in the so-called PRISTINE rain forests, and here on PROTECTED Indian land in California, thanks to favorable rulings by the Interior thanks to Gore and Feinstein!!

Now do the research before you condemn me, and I see us getting along better down the road!!
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Old 02-02-2007, 05:20 PM   #32
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Thought this was interesting.

Gore earns Nobel nomination for global warming work


Nice to see that someone thinks Gore's work has been worthwhile.
Hey .. Rush Limbaugh was nominated as well ... I'm sure you feel that it is nice to see that someone thinks his work has been worthwhile too .. right?

Landmark Legal Foundation Nominates Rush Limbaugh for 2007 Nobel Peace Prize
LEESBURG, Va., Feb. 1 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- Landmark Legal Foundation today nominated nationally syndicated radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh for the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize.


Limbaugh, whose daily radio show is heard by more than 20 million people on more than 600 radio stations in the United States and around the world, was nominated for the prestigious award for his "nearly two decades of tireless efforts to promote liberty, equality and opportunity for all humankind, regardless of race, creed, economic stratum or national origin. These are the only real cornerstones of just and lasting peace throughout the world," said Landmark President Mark R. Levin.
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Old 02-02-2007, 09:28 PM   #33
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Hey .. Rush Limbaugh was nominated as well ... I'm sure you feel that it is nice to see that someone thinks his work has been worthwhile too .. right?
I think Curly along with Moe, wanted Franken or Begala to win, as the INTELLIGENCE of Limbaugh DWARFS 99% of Lefties!

GIVE IT TO ALL THE WOUNDED TROOPS THAT SERVED IN IRAQ-AFGHANISTAN, AS ITS TIME FOR MEN & WOMEN "AMERICANS" TO WIN INSTEAD OF GIRLIE BOYS OR PHILOSOPHICAL PUSSIES!!!
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Old 02-02-2007, 09:39 PM   #34
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Gore Totally deserves it.

He's been trying to spread awareness of Global Warming for something like 20 years.... much longer than the public has even known the term.

It's not like he's saving the world, but indeed, he could be one of the most influential figures in an eventual movement that can effectively solve the problem.
True, but how does this qualify him for a peace prize?
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Old 02-02-2007, 09:42 PM   #35
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Global concerns? Global warming? I'm guessing here that perhaps the people who nominated Gore believe that global warming is a global concern.

The quote also included this:
I don't think that's exactly the way it is to be interpreted. In terms of peace, I would consider global concerns to be the actions of hostile people who put part or all of the world in danger, in terms of war and such.
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Old 03-02-2007, 01:35 PM   #36
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Hmmm this award is for peace right?

Only the Clinton-Gore administraton did actually bomb a few things in their 8 years like Aspirin factories and the Chinese Embassy...

Granted of course they weren't aiming for them but they did manage to actully launch the missles..i guess Limbaugh really is more deserving than Gore!
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Old 03-02-2007, 02:50 PM   #37
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I don't think that's exactly the way it is to be interpreted. In terms of peace, I would consider global concerns to be the actions of hostile people who put part or all of the world in danger, in terms of war and such.
From a quote in an earlier post on the Nobel Committee:

First, although the Norwegian Nobel Committee never formally defined "peace," in practice it came to interpret the term ever more broadly. This approach could have its pitfalls, but avoided the danger of locking the committee into fixed categories and gave the committee flexibility to adapt to new concerns. I can't speak for the Nobel Committee, but perhaps the same broad interpretation of "peace" that they may have used in Gore's nomination was also used in Limbaugh's? I'm sure that anyone nominated is worthy of consideration.
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Old 03-02-2007, 03:27 PM   #38
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Originally Posted by Hank Actually he knows there is no global warming, the fuck owns a strip mine for goodness sakes.
You people are being decieved.
So he owns a strip mine.

Whether true or not what has that to do with Global warming? Most environmental activists don’t…
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Old 03-02-2007, 03:36 PM   #39
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Hey .. Rush Limbaugh was nominated as well ... I'm sure you feel that it is nice to see that someone thinks his work has been worthwhile too .. right?
Say what!!!
Sounds like damage control, political talk shows instigate tensions not reduce them…
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Old 03-03-2007, 12:05 AM   #40
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Actually he knows there is no global warming, the fuck owns a strip mine for goodness sakes.
You people are being decieved.
We're being deceived no more than by Bush who stated that we need to reduce our dependence on oil and look to alternative energy sources. This from a man who's family, and he personally, made their money in oil...... BTW, Bush was nominated for a Peace Prize in the past also, and he started two wars.... I don't hold much stead in the Peace Pr4ize process anymore. It's proven to be farcical at best.
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