[avaiguite]

Clearly Joe Biden made these statements in an effort to attract attention to his campaign. He is, after all, running for POTUS!! Apparently, he has accomplished his goal because everyone across the media is talking about his comments.

What does Rush Limbaugh have to do with what Biden said?

Apparently because this is what Rush has spent today talking about.

I don't see what is so offensive about what Biden said. Can someone please explain why that sentence is shocking?

[JTS_tv]

Come on, Sam. It's pretty bad. I suspect it's just something coming out wrong (something that's happened to me many times), but it still comes off badly.

[OQmYckYz]

You rush fans never fail, he said the same thing almost word for word about 2 hours ago. Everyday I can count on hearing his remarks regurgitated on these boards

LOL, so what if he said it, too. Isn't he part of the media? Is he not allowed to deliver news?

I'm sure he's glad you're listening too. Seems more libs listen to him, on this board, than reps.

I don't see what is so offensive about what Biden said. Can someone please explain why that sentence is shocking? "first articulate african american"?

[OpVJokl8]

Seems more libs listen to him, on this board, than reps.

What's funny is that I didn't even listen to the radio today. I was too busy working. Apparently, wooyarn doesn't have that problem.

[funnyPasds]

Apparently because this is what Rush has spent today talking about.

I don't see what is so offensive about what Biden said. Can someone please explain why that sentence is shocking?

this is what Biden said:

"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who's articulate and bright and clean, and a nice looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook man. I don’t recall hearing a word from Barack about a plan or a tactic." So, other black candidates are dirty? and inarticulate? dull? If a republican said these things I do believe that there would be an outrage from democrats across the country. Obviously, there is a double standard.

Biden has accomplished his goal though, we are all talking about him.

[fabrizioitwloch]

And Trent Lotts speech was no big deal nether.

Agreed.

[gkruCRi1]

Clearly Joe Biden made these statements in an effort to attract attention to his campaign. He is, after all, running for POTUS!! Apparently, he has accomplished his goal because everyone across the media is talking about his comments.

What does Rush Limbaugh have to do with what Biden said?

Biden gave Obama his due credit on charisma, appearance, etc, before drawing his gun on how Obama's attractiveness is a red herring to what really matters. It seems the Reps--and Hillary btw--seem intent on doing their 'job,' so to speak, to bump off Obama's competitive edge through third party innuendo and false rumouring, etc., as politicians always do and will do so to Biden as Biden will in turn go after them.

Rush is a Rep advocate and makes a huge living out of it. He has a stake in fanning flames against Dems to help the GOP and his own interests. I really don't get from Biden's statements what Rush is trying to make out with them, and certainly I don't put a siren to what Biden said even if Rush is correct in what Biden meant. I mean, is Al Sharpton 'mainstream' for example? Since when did Rush, et al, get this epiphany to become so 'politically correct'?

Then again, it may just be me because not much bothers me with these kinds of claims anyway no matter which side blows them up unless a comment is clearly out of bounds.

Anyone can take the kind of statement Biden made and spin it because it has a common weakness in structure that allows it to be spun.

I remember the same kinds of stunts being used against Judge Alito at his confirmation hearing for the SCOTUS. Every vagary of anything he ever said or wrote that could be twisted was pulled out by his political enemies to make him into a closet bigot, sexist, arch right wing nutcase, etc.

I tend to be very libertarian on government power and social matters so I have alot of philosophical differences with Alito on constitutional matters, but having actually had cases before him as an attorney in his former federal circuit, I know that he is not a bigot, etc. And even if I never had that opportunity, I would have known that politicians and political advocates love to mischaracterise statements of their opponents for their own benefit.

Had Biden or Alito and others who experience this kind of attack been that bad in reality, it would have surfaced awhile ago through slip of the tongues and spontaneous angers in explicit and ugly words.

[funnyPasds]

Biden gave Obama his due credit on charisma, appearance, etc, before drawing his gun on how Obama's attractiveness is a red herring to what really matters. It seems the Reps--and Hillary btw--seem intent on doing their 'job,' so to speak, to bump off Obama's competitive edge through third party innuendo and false rumouring, etc., as politicians always do and will do so to Biden as Biden will in turn go after them.

Rush is a Rep advocate and makes a huge living out of it. He has a stake in fanning flames against Dems to help the GOP and his own interests. I really don't get from Biden's statements what Rush is trying to make out with them, and certainly I don't put a siren to what Biden said even if Rush is correct in what Biden meant. I mean, is Al Sharpton 'mainstream' for example? Since when did Rush, et al, get this epiphany to become so 'politically correct'?

Then again, it may just be me because not much bothers me with these kinds of claims anyway no matter which side blows them up unless a comment is clearly out of bounds.

Anyone can take the kind of statement Biden made and spin it because it has a common weakness in structure that allows it to be spun.

I remember the same kinds of stunts being used against Judge Alito at his confirmation hearing for the SCOTUS. Every vagary of anything he ever said or wrote that could be twisted was pulled out by his political enemies to make him into a closet bigot, sexist, arch right wing nutcase, etc.

I tend to be very libertarian on government power and social matters so I have alot of philosophical differences with Alito on constitutional matters, but having actually had cases before him as an attorney in his former federal circuit, I know that he is not a bigot, etc. And even if I never had that opportunity, I would have known that politicians and political advocates love to mischaracterise statements of their opponents for their own benefit.

Had Biden or Alito and others who experience this kind of attack been that bad in reality, it would have surfaced awhile ago through slip of the tongues and spontaneous angers in explicit and ugly words.

We are in complete agreement on this. I still think there is a double standard. Democrat candidates can say just about anything and its OK. Republicans are held to a higher standard. Trent Lott is a perfect example.

[Vodonaeva]

We are in complete agreement on this. I still think there is a double standard. Democrat candidates can say just about anything and its OK. Republicans are held to a higher standard. Trent Lott is a perfect example.

Agreed

[JTS_tv]

Interesting.

It's the second link on cnn.com's home page. How much coverage would you expect to make this "fair?"

[gkruCRi1]

We are in complete agreement on this. I still think there is a double standard. Democrat candidates can say just about anything and its OK. Republicans are held to a higher standard. Trent Lott is a perfect example.

They are both hypocrites on that. They are interested in winning, not fairness. In the media, liberal and conservative sources are the same. Talk radio and FOX are conservative and show their bias clearly. The majority of major newspapers are liberal leaning and do the same for liberals. The conservative minority of newspapers do the same on behalf of conservatives. And if I were ever to come up with a conspiracy theory on the media, for me, it would be their secret agreement to divvy up the partisanship so I have to buy 5 newspapers a day from various perspectives, listen to talk radio, and watch different cable television stations to wade through the crap and get all the facts and opinions from all sides on all things to get fully informed. Thus, they all get paid instead of me just being able to get one or two sources that just shoot straight. It's a fanciful theory but fun to entertain when I shell out the money every morning for a pile of newspapers and listen to various media.

[97dYA9L3]

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