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Old 01-17-2007, 07:45 PM   #21
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Oh! Your one of those…
(let me guess, you would have to read your own correspondence with the word Jew, Muslim or black substituted for the word Christian to see what we see.)
That is a very astute deduction, Hank. And you said alot with very few words.

But the thing is, sometimes tolerance is something that needs to be learned the hard way IMO. Some people won't ever learn the value of tolerance until they walk up to a 300 pound pro-football player and call him a dumb fucking nigger to his face.

Then they'll get a crash course in the value of tolerance.
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Old 01-17-2007, 07:51 PM   #22
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As is your wont Hank you have completely misread this piece of news. It has been pointed out here many times before that this case has moved to federal court as a result of the city transferring ownership. And I'm not sure which appelant you're talking about but one of them is a Jewish veterans group wich is decidedly not dead.
Hey, do you think they would mind if I went to Israel and demand they take down the “Star of David” in there veterans cemeteries???

They represent no Jewish families or relations of any kind in this cemetery that was picked by family members with respect and placement of “Star of David” memorials on each of there graves..

I will once again point out to you that many many Christians in this country support enforcement of the establishment clause. My priest is one. You seem to have freedom mixed up with establishment clause. Government bans or rulings are what are not allowed in the constitution.
The cross was privately funded and the Jewish group is free to privately fund a Star of David.
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Old 01-17-2007, 09:46 PM   #23
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So is this kind of a rebellion thing against your parents?

Could you tell the forum how old you are Steve. Or would you rather not say?
I'm 44, and smart enough to know a myth when I see one...
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Old 01-18-2007, 02:46 AM   #24
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Hey, do you think they would mind if I went to Israel and demand they take down the “Star of David” in there veterans cemeteries???

They represent no Jewish families or relations of any kind in this cemetery that was picked by family members with respect and placement of “Star of David” memorials on each of there graves..

You seem to have freedom mixed up with establishment clause. Government bans or rulings are what are not allowed in the constitution.
The cross was privately funded and the Jewish group is free to privately fund a Star of David.
If you had bothered to read any of the facts in this case it would be easier to discuss it with you.

Only one of the many plaintiffs is a jewish organization. The cross was erected on public land and is still on public land. The fact that it was privately funded is irrelevant in law. The "veterans memorial" was only incorporated into the cross after the lawsuit which demanded its removal was instituted. It doesn't fool anyone. The city politicians know that and that's why the mayor cooked up this scheme with the recently jailed congressman duke cunningham to transfer ownership to the feds. It won't make any difference. The precedent of the last two establishment clause cases decided by the supremes make this case pretty cut and dried. The ownership shenanigans have only served to delay the decision.
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