[soprofaxel]

Do you realize that racism involves hatred of another due to their race; not sexual orientation?

Yes, The racism I was referring to is from some of Jack's other posts.

And yes this was a politically motivated attack. They were heckling the Yale choir kids from the beginning for singing a patriotic song. Then one of the instigators followed them out and called 20 of his buddies to teach these kids a lesson. So if they sang something different nothing would have happend? I don't buy that. We don't have all the evidence. Maybe some words were exchanged we don't know about that motivated the beat down. I think it is all speculation...from my side and your side. We disagree on the motivation.

But because the attackers are well connected they havn't been arrested and thus far nothing has been done to remedy the situation. That is completely the responsibility of the local govn. They've chosen not to pursue any action due to the nature of the attacks. Yes I agree it is a bunch of BS that no arrests have been made. It is amazing how higher ups have a way of being above the law. I generally don't associate that with liberals, but whatever.

If even one of those Yale kids had been packing heat do you think they wouldn't be in jail this very second? Kind of like that black lady that falsely accused all those Duke players of rape. They were kicked off the team and booted out of school for the mere insinuation of guilt by racist prosecuting attorney who is now being investigated. It's nothing new the law sytem sucks and is influenced by racial or personal factors from the people in power. We can pull different examples all day and it really proves nothing.


Liberals could care less about freedom. If you don't believe and say what they want you to say they attack you both physically and verbally. Fortunately for me I live in the south where we know how to take care of their kind. I disagree, I think liberals care more about freedom than conservatives in general. I do however think liberals are getting kind of mixed up and being intolerant in the name of tolerance. Does that make sense? I dunno man I think you are trying to put a political agenda to this crime and for me it just doesn't fit.

Cheers

[Eromereorybig]

She's responsible for fostering an environment where her constituents think it's ok to act in that manner. We're not talking a couple of drunk kids we're talking 20 of them going out there with the sole purpose of attacking these Yale kids for singing a patriotic song.

And they still havn't arrested anyone. If a bunch of queers were brutally assaulted in San Fran do you think the police would have had any compuncture about arresting the perpetrators; especially when they know who it is?

Again these are the type of people San Francisco produces. Well those and the place seems to be a bum magnet.

Varus

I thought they beat them up for being gay, not for what song they were singing.

And guess what varus? Homophobes are everywhere. These weren't liberal tree huggers, these were homophobic guys from a rival school.

Nancy Pelosi has nothing to do with this.

[usatramadolusa]

Glad you asked she voted against this;



HR 728

She voted against this;



and this;



Project Vote Smart - Representative Pelosi on Juvenile Crime bill

Pelosi clearly doesn't think juvenile crimes need to be dealt with in a serious manner. Perhaps that's why these kids that attacked those choir boys believe they can get away with what they did. And in fact thus far have.

Varus

Well, I guess you're right then.

[annouhMus]

How about discussing the content of the thread. Defend your liberal brothers in San Fran.

Varus

How about being less dis-ingeneous with the title.? I think that could be called Flaming. and I also think we have "ALL" gotten the point that you don't like Pelosi

[annouhMus]

So you believe that people who sing the Star Spangled Banner deserve to have the "piss kicked out of them"? Why do you hate America?

Obviously he just enjoys Violence and confrontation regardless of from whence it comes. and I bet he even attends the local Cock-fights, and Dogdy shows.

Hey, Ironman, who's you favorite Pit Bull???

[annouhMus]

Pelosi clearly doesn't think juvenile crimes need to be dealt with in a serious manner. Perhaps that's why these kids that attacked those choir boys believe they can get away with what they did. And in fact thus far have.

Varus

The only thing in that whole post which had anything to do with the issue, was not in your links, but in your own commentary of what you personally beleieve. (the part I have copied above) It may be "CLEAR" to you, but you are just ONE individual.

[Cajlwdvx]

Why am I not surprised.

The 16 singers showed up late to the party wearing preppy sport jackets and ties, and launched into "The Star-Spangled Banner."

A couple of uninvited guests started mocking them, and allegedly the words "faggot" and "homo" were tossed -- and so were a couple of punches.

The loud noise drew relatives from next door, who promptly ordered the house cleared.

The Yale kids, most of whom were staying with a family a block away, began heading home.

But witnesses said one of the uninvited guests -- who happens to be the son of a prominent Pacific Heights family -- pulled out his cell phone and said, "I'm 20 deep. My boys are coming."

According to Rapagnani and others, the Yale kids barely made it around the corner when they were intercepted by a van full of young men.

"They were surrounded, then tripped -- and when they were on the ground, they were kicked," Rapagnani said.

According to police reports, the cops arrived about 12:40 a.m. to find 20 people fighting in the street.

To the police, who were out in force to keep a lid on New Year's, it looked like just another drunken brawl.

But according to Rapagnani, "This was not a fight -- it was an attack."

Four of the alleged assailants were detained at the scene, then released after the cops took their names.

Meanwhile, Sharyar Aziz Jr. was taken by paramedics to San Francisco General Hospital, and later had to undergo reconstructive surgery in New York for a broken jaw that will remain wired shut for eight weeks.

Another unidentified Yale student sought treatment for a concussion, and a third for a swollen ankle and other abrasions.

Yale Dean Peter Salovey told the school paper that he was "shocked and appalled" by the incident, which has yet to yield an arrest. New Year's nightmare for visiting Yale singers


San Francisco the land of intolerance. Unfortunately none of the Yale kids were packing.

Just think these are Nancy Pelosis constituents. Makes you feel good about her being speaker of the house doesn't it.

Varus

[Xavier_Spinner_Wheels]

Since the singers were from Yale, I figured you'd be happy that those east coast liberal elites got what they deserved?

[Cajlwdvx]

Since the singers were from Yale, I figured you'd be happy that those east coast liberal elites got what they deserved?

Yeah I'm happy a bunch of anti-america idiots produced by San Fran ganged up on some choir boys.

Anything else you want to add?

Varus

[Evoryboypoto]

I wonder if they will be charged with hate crimes? After all "faggot" and "homo" ?

[Cajlwdvx]

I wonder if they will be charged with hate crimes? After all "faggot" and "homo" ?

I wonder if they'll be charged at all. So far that remains to be seen.

Varus

[AdvertisingPo]

The title of this thread is entirely disingenuous.

[Cajlwdvx]

The title of this thread is entirely disingenuous.

How about discussing the content of the thread. Defend your liberal brothers in San Fran.

Varus

[AdvertisingPo]

How about discussing the content of the thread. Defend your liberal brothers in San Fran.

Varus

The inference I took from this story was that they were beat up by a bunch of LAers who thought they were a bunch of east coast preppy toolbags.

By and large, crazywhackoleftcoastpinkos don't use the word Faggot.

[Peterli]

varrus, you must be so conflicted in how to put the most appropriate partisan spin on a non-partisan incident. On the one hand, you have some kids being attacked for singing the star spangled banner, and by San-Franciscans no-less, so clearly you should side with the singers. On the other hand, however, you have a bunch of high-fallutin' choirboy pussies from an elitist liberal institution getting their asses handed to them by people who call other people "faggots", so you've got to side with the tough guys as well.

Now, most would look at this and say that it has nothing whatsoever to do with partisan politics, but clearly not you. So, the only question at this point is which silly oversimplification of events fits best.

[Cajlwdvx]

varrus, you must be so conflicted in how to put the most appropriate partisan spin on a non-partisan incident. On the one hand, you have some kids being attacked for singing the star spangled banner, and by San-Franciscans no-less, so clearly you should side with the singers. On the other hand, however, you have a bunch of high-fallutin' choirboy pussies from an elitist liberal institution getting their asses handed to them by people who call other people "faggots", so you've got to side with the tough guys as well.

Now, most would look at this and say that it has nothing whatsoever to do with partisan politics, but clearly not you. So, the only question at this point is which silly oversimplification of events fits best.

So you don't think choir boys getting their ass kicked in San Fran for singing the Star Spangled Banner is political? I'm guessing if a bunch of preps jumped a bunch of queers for being queer you would feel quite differently.

Varus

[AdvertisingPo]

So you don't think choir boys getting their ass kicked in San Fran for singing the Star Spangled Banner is political? I'm guessing if a bunch of preps jumped a bunch of queers for being queer you would feel quite differently.

Varus

I think what we have hear is a bunch of "badasses" jumping a bunch of preps for being "queer."

[Peterli]

So you don't think choir boys getting their ass kicked in San Fran for singing the Star Spangled Banner is political? I'm guessing if a bunch of preps jumped a bunch of queers for being queer you would feel quite differently.

Varus

I don't think either one is an inherently "political" act - either way it sounds like people who are drunk behaving like criminals. I wouldn't feel differently either way because I don't base my code of ethics on partisan talking points. What surprises me is you favoring one over the other, since it's easy to see you admiring both groups.

[Peterli]

I think what we have hear is a bunch of "badasses" jumping a bunch of preps for being "queer."

Exactly. You can imagine my surprise that varrus would have a problem with preppy East coast liberals getting their comeuppance or violence in general.

[Xavier_Spinner_Wheels]

I'm thinking varrus had to side with the tree hugging tofu farting birkenstock wearing east coast liberal elites in this case because he could get the satisfaction of bashing Nancy Pelosi. It may have come down to a coin flip.