[Susanleech]

[QUOTE]

Stop being a jerk, please.

1. The US was implicated in the little oil for food scandal, just as much as anyone else
2. *ONLY* the US is implicated in the multi-billion dollar fraud that is going on in Iraq today - the amount of money your companies stole since 2003, is *many times more* than what French, German, Chinese and Russian companies grabbed, combined.

You know this, the entire world knows this. Stop being a loser.

I never said the U.S. wasnt profiting off of Iraq. I will say that France, Russia, Germany, and China were opposed to it because Iraq served their purposes. Not a single one of those four has proven itself to be a peaceful and selfless nation in its long history. And as I have said before--if you people call Iraq our problem--why shouldnt we be the one to fix it?

The simple point is that France and Germany were, like all normal governments, moderately well informed, moderately rational and moderately smart, and could thus warn you over the dangers of illegally invading Iraq. You just happen to have had the bad luck of electing an idiot, who created an idiotic government, with idiotic ideas, well below the average intelligence of the average citizen of an averagely developed country. Hence France's astonishment when it heard your governments silly and absurd ideas. Hence the Germans' need to scream - they could never have imagined that at this day and age, a government could be so dumb. Yeah, just keep kissing that ass. Stop putting France and Germany on such a high level. These four nations had a stake in Iraq and thats why they didnt invade like the rest of the world did--not just the U.S. Yes, the rest of the world was for the war in Iraq at the begining. Why not these four? Perhaps because of the money to be made in Iraq. These four nations do the same as the U.S. when it comes to throwing around its weight to benefit its political interests and economic interests. Dont put us on a pedestal because the rest of the modernized world does it. You think France is some great humanitarian? Look to it in the 90's and even today. France had a role in the genocide in Rwanda and continues to have a grip in Africa. Why is it still there?

But I understand that it must be excruciatingly horrible for you to admit this fact. It puts your entire nation to shame. And? The U.S. is shamed everyday by something else whether it be Michael Jackson, Mike Tyson, our obesity epidemic (which is also taking a huge toll in France and Western Europe), etc. We are the one true power and everyone hates us because of it. Europe is simply a jealous stepsister to the U.S. and they have always been critical of us---ignoring their own offenses. We have to live with Vietnam and Iraq---the Germans sweep their support of Hitler and the murder of 6 million people under their rugs made in China by slave labor.

From the moment on that you are capable of recognizing your mistake - as a nation - you can start to make a beginning of joining the normal, moderately intelligent nations of this world. Iraq was a mistake. We shouldnt have invaded and its a waste of time trying to work with these people. We have to live with it and make it work. In retrospect, there was much more the U.S. could have done with this time, money, and blood. However, Saddam was an evil man who needed to be taken out. The intelligent world would have sit on its hands just like it always have. Europe would have ignored the problems they helped create the Middle East and cried to the U.S. to fix them when it got out of control---when these evil men all had nukes and used them against innocents. Just like in WWII where the "intelligent nations" tried to kiss Hitlers ass and not spark a war.

For the time being, it is best for you to lower your tone, because you have a lot to learn. Reality proves this every single day. Explain this to me? Im too much of a stupid American to understand.

But about who stole what, we can only say one thing: American companies stole many more billions since they entered Iraq in 2003, than all other companies from all other major powers combined during the oil for food scandal. On that, you really have to stop being a jerk I want lots of proof of this. Dont just make something up like that. And you called me a jerk already--but I havent called you an arrogant punk yet.

[BJEugene]

70 dead in Kufa, Baghdad

We should not forget that around 30 times more people die on a daily basis in Iraq under Anglo-American occupation, than during the worst periods of Saddam's entire life in office.

We should also learn that the world now has a great new international news service, that focuses on world politics in a more objective manner; just a question of balancing against the Anglo-American bias: France24

"sniff" Poor little guy, he can't get over his HERO Sodomy, tap dancing on the wind, so like most lefties he comment on crap he knows nothing about!!

Who is committing these MURDERS Jr?

Could the bastard Al queada, Barney Sadr, and othe Iraq goons and Radical Islamic bastards that are doing the killing?

Try the damned TRUTH Jr before posting bull shit from Olberrman or CNN Traitor bastards!

Work for you?? Maybe New Yorkers could explain it to you!!

[WeestDype]

I think this is a very good point: how is America doing anything "good" for Iraq when they are dying.
Are we really this ineffective in controlling Iraqis?
Why has Saddam been more successful than an entire US military?

[WeestDype]

"sniff" Poor little guy, he can't get over his HERO Sodomy, tap dancing on the wind, so like most lefties he comment on crap he knows nothing about!!

Who is committing these MURDERS Jr?

Could the bastard Al queada, Barney Sadr, and othe Iraq goons and Radical Islamic bastards that are doing the killing?

Try the damned TRUTH Jr before posting bull shit from Olberrman or CNN Traitor bastards!

Work for you?? Maybe New Yorkers could explain it to you!!

If Saddam controlled the Iraqis, why cant the United States?
We have guns, we have tanks. We have bombs.
Is Saddam really that much more effective than our bombs, tanks and guns?

[Gedominew]

I get a kick that he thinks France 24 is not biased. Hell I heard a story on NPR as they were gearing up that essentially claimed they were trying to get the French governments message heard because they did not feel it was getting enough air time. So much for unbiased.

[masaredera]

ROFLMAO!!!!

That's a truly funny concept there.

Put us under UN command. Don't make me laugh.

Matt

No more funny than the tragic comedy of morons you typically have in charge.

Andrew

[iouiyyut]

I think this is a very good point: how is America doing anything "good" for Iraq when they are dying.
Are we really this ineffective in controlling Iraqis?
Why has Saddam been more successful than an entire US military?

It is very typical for wars that the innocent people fighting for their independence and safety of their families are better that foreign intruders looking only for money (oil). I hope that the Iraqi people will be able to kick out the aggressiors and gain independence again. I also hope that the US troops could return back home before most of them will be dead - now 3000 Americans have been killed - for nothing.

[Gedominew]

Look I am no fan of the war and never was, but it is comments like

I also hope that the US troops could return back home before most of them will be dead... that just show the immaturity of the poster. Does the poster know how many troops have participated in the war in Iraq since 2003? Does he know how many are there right now? Clearly not or he would not be making such stupid comments. And you wonder why no one really pays much attention to your posts except to ridicule them.

[Heliosprime]

The French gov't is something I'd never take my hat off for: that said, the immorality of other govt's in the world is completely irrelevant to the issue of the incompetence and callous disregard for life demonstrated by the Bush administration.

callous disregard for life is an interesting point...sooo why is not china brought before the sc for refusing to comply with the UN Refugee Conventions act they signed? They return escaping nor Koreans to the nor Korean gov. knowing full well what will happen to them…..and of course we’ll leave motivation out of it as it upsets the apple cart…

China: Protect North Korean Refugees (Human Rights Watch, 9-3-2004)

I have not seen ONE, not one thread on this subject..yea, the US created the situation in that Iraq is right now, but so what? Does that prelude commentary and condemnation of others who are guilty of sending people back to gulags? The South Koreans propping up slave labor at the Kaesong industrial complex ikn NORTH KOREA (where the nor Koreans woerkers make materials for shipment to the south) and where in the north Korean gov. takes half the workers salary…(all of 57$ a month mind you)… what about that?

The selectivity here is breathtaking….

[Usogwdkb]

Well, had you had the courage to listen to wiser people than your leaders, you would not be responsible for mass graves and mass murder.

Sadly, your nation wasn't courageous and smart enough. While the rest of us were. You are now a finished nation, with zero credibility left, and responsible for some of the most atrocious crimes in history.

Next time you plan on doing something important, you listen to the 98% of the world's people, who know it better than you. It's for your own good. If you don't, we'll put you under UN command. For being too infantile as a nation.

We're a finished nation? In your pathetic dreams! Oh, and just try to put us under UN command...Remember what happened the last time the Brits tried to tell us what to do!