[usacomm]

As Iraqi state television aired pictures of Saddam Hussein's execution, over 70 people have died in bomb attacks in the cities of Kufa and Baghdad today. 70 dead in Kufa, Baghdad

We should not forget that around 30 times more people die on a daily basis in Iraq under Anglo-American occupation, than during the worst periods of Saddam's entire life in office.

We should also learn that the world now has a great new international news service, that focuses on world politics in a more objective manner; just a question of balancing against the Anglo-American bias: France24

[fabrizioitwloch]

70 dead in Kufa, Baghdad

We should not forget that around 30 times more people die on a daily basis in Iraq under Anglo-American occupation, than during the worst periods of Saddam's entire life in office.

We should also learn that the world now has a great new international news service, that focuses on world politics in a more objective manner; just a question of balancing against the Anglo-American bias: France24

Let's see.....30 times more people per day than during the worst periods of saddams entire office..........That country should be empty by now, shouldn't...Or do they birth adults over there ?

[qQVXpYM6]

It's interesting that on CNN, it says this about Hussein:

"Hussein was symbol of autocracy, cruelty in Iraq"

Hussein was symbol of autocracy, cruelty in Iraq - CNN.com

When there is now more torture in Iraq thanks to the US invasion.

BBC NEWS | Middle East | Iraq torture 'worse after Saddam'


Hopefully the Iraqi people can see that exchanging a better, local brutal dictator for a foreign, worse brutal oppressor (the US) is bad.

[Qesomud]

70 dead in Kufa, Baghdad

We should not forget that around 30 times more people die on a daily basis in Iraq under Anglo-American occupation, than during the worst periods of Saddam's entire life in office.

We should also learn that the world now has a great new international news service, that focuses on world politics in a more objective manner; just a question of balancing against the Anglo-American bias: France24

You fail to realize that most of the deaths in Iraq today are done by Iraqis themselves. If you don't know already, we call these people "insurgents" and they like to kill each other. Stop trying to compare numbers that don't make sense. Saddam killed many people, yes, but he ordered those deaths. The U.S. soldiers don't kill that many people, the insurgents do. There is a difference so try to understand that huh.

[usacomm]

You fail to realize that most of the deaths in Iraq today are done by Iraqis themselves. If you don't know already, we call these people "insurgents" and they like to kill each other. Stop trying to compare numbers that don't make sense. Saddam killed many people, yes, but he ordered those deaths. The U.S. soldiers don't kill that many people, the insurgents do. There is a difference so try to understand that huh.

But you seem to forget that a dictator like Saddam Hussein could keep these militants, ethnic splits, murderous factions and religious freaks under control. Why do you think he was supported by the Anglo-Americans in the first place?

Now the Anglo-American occupation has let this terrorist, murderous rage to surface and is not able to tame it. The result: 100 dead people on average, every single day. Far more than at any time under Saddam.

We all knew this was going to happen. Ask the French, they told you so continuously during the run up to the illegal invasion. They were 100% right.

Maybe this is something you're not capable of understanding.

[Evoryboypoto]

But you seem to forget that a dictator like Saddam Hussein could keep these militants, ethnic splits, murderous factions and religious freaks under control. Why do you think he was supported by the Anglo-Americans in the first place?

Now the Anglo-American occupation has let this terrorist, murderous rage to surface and is not able to tame it. The result: 100 dead people on average, every single day. Far more than at any time under Saddam.

We all knew this was going to happen. Ask the French, they told you so continuously during the run up to the illegal invasion. They were 100% right.

Maybe this is something you're not capable of understanding.

All I remember is them saying the inspectors need more time to find the WMDs. Find them yet?

[usacomm]

All I remember is them saying the inspectors need more time to find the WMDs. Find them yet?

Well, had you had the courage to listen to wiser people than your leaders, you would not be responsible for mass graves and mass murder.

Sadly, your nation wasn't courageous and smart enough. While the rest of us were. You are now a finished nation, with zero credibility left, and responsible for some of the most atrocious crimes in history.

Next time you plan on doing something important, you listen to the 98% of the world's people, who know it better than you. It's for your own good. If you don't, we'll put you under UN command. For being too infantile as a nation.

[Susanleech]

But you seem to forget that a dictator like Saddam Hussein could keep these militants, ethnic splits, murderous factions and religious freaks under control. Why do you think he was supported by the Anglo-Americans in the first place?

Now the Anglo-American occupation has let this terrorist, murderous rage to surface and is not able to tame it. The result: 100 dead people on average, every single day. Far more than at any time under Saddam.

We all knew this was going to happen. Ask the French, they told you so continuously during the run up to the illegal invasion. They were 100% right.

Maybe this is something you're not capable of understanding.

So you are ok with a brutal dicator ruling a nation with an iron fist--only if he keeps the country under control? Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and the other monsters of the 20th century did this--are you o.k. with their legacies? China now looks peaceful, growing, and there is no open civil war. However, beneath the eye of the press are people who disagree being tortured, beaten, and killed. Are you cool with that? People dont seem to be cool when topics like this involve the U.S. or Western Europe. But really really could give a fucking shit about it when it happens in other countries right?

Ask the French? About what? They also are on a continent where they are not wanted (Africa). Should we also ask them about Oil for Food, providing dicators with weapons (like the U.S. has done), and other shit around the globe. No, we shouldnt have to ask the French anything because they are more guilty in world history than we are.

[Evoryboypoto]

Well, had you had the courage to listen to wiser people than your leaders, you would not be responsible for mass graves and mass murder.

Sadly, your nation wasn't courageous and smart enough. While the rest of us were. You are now a finished nation, with zero credibility left, and responsible for some of the most atrocious crimes in history.

Next time you plan on doing something important, you listen to the 98% of the world's people, who know it better than you. It's for your own good. If you don't, we'll put you under UN command. For being too infantile as a nation.

Hmm, I don't see anything that answers my question or backs up your original point so should I assume that you have no answer or backup?

[Evoryboypoto]

Well, had you had the courage to listen to wiser people than your leaders, you would not be responsible for mass graves and mass murder.

Sadly, your nation wasn't courageous and smart enough. While the rest of us were. You are now a finished nation, with zero credibility left, and responsible for some of the most atrocious crimes in history.

Next time you plan on doing something important, you listen to the 98% of the world's people, who know it better than you. It's for your own good. If you don't, we'll put you under UN command. For being too infantile as a nation.

And we are more than 2% of the world especially if you count all the people who joined in with us. Simple math.

[Lydiaswingert]

So you are ok with a brutal dicator ruling a nation with an iron fist--only if he keeps the country under control? Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and the other monsters of the 20th century did this--are you o.k. with their legacies? China now looks peaceful, growing, and there is no open civil war. However, beneath the eye of the press are people who disagree being tortured, beaten, and killed. Are you cool with that? People dont seem to be cool when topics like this involve the U.S. or Western Europe. But really really could give a fucking shit about it when it happens in other countries right?

Ask the French? About what? They also are on a continent where they are not wanted (Africa). Should we also ask them about Oil for Food, providing dicators with weapons (like the U.S. has done), and other shit around the globe. No, we shouldnt have to ask the French anything because they are more guilty in world history than we are.

You're missing the point, which is this: if you're going to screw around with something as precariously balanced as Iraq was, you'd best be sure that you understand what it is you're dealing with and that you're fully prepared and capable of addressing any and all difficulties that arise.

Talk about fools rushing in where angels fear to tread! The cavalier, cocksure smugness that those bastards approached the situation with is appalling, not to mention a profound embarrassment to our nation.

[Susanleech]

You're missing the point, which is this: if you're going to screw around with something as precariously balanced as Iraq was, you'd best be sure that you understand what it is you're dealing with and that you're fully prepared and capable of addressing any and all difficulties that arise.

Talk about fools rushing in where angels fear to tread! The cavalier, cocksure smugness that those bastards approached the situation with is appalling, not to mention a profound embarrassment to our nation.

Im not missing the point. Yeah, we all know the U.S. should have planned this better. However, dont take your hats off for the French, Russians, Chinese, or Germans. They were "wise" because they made money in Iraq and have a long history of it. Not a single one of those four nations today cares about the cultural differences of nations. They do the exact same as the U.S. does--Germany being a bit more innocent.

[Imalaycle]

Well, had you had the courage to listen to wiser people than your leaders, you would not be responsible for mass graves and mass murder.

Sadly, your nation wasn't courageous and smart enough. While the rest of us were. You are now a finished nation, with zero credibility left, and responsible for some of the most atrocious crimes in history.

Next time you plan on doing something important, you listen to the 98% of the world's people, who know it better than you. It's for your own good. If you don't, we'll put you under UN command. For being too infantile as a nation.

ROFLMAO!!!!

That's a truly funny concept there.

Put us under UN command. Don't make me laugh.

Matt

[Lydiaswingert]

Im not missing the point. Yeah, we all know the U.S. should have planned this better. However, dont take your hats off for the French, Russians, Chinese, or Germans. They were "wise" because they made money in Iraq and have a long history of it. Not a single one of those four nations today cares about the cultural differences of nations. They do the exact same as the U.S. does--Germany being a bit more innocent.

The French gov't is something I'd never take my hat off for: that said, the immorality of other govt's in the world is completely irrelevant to the issue of the incompetence and callous disregard for life demonstrated by the Bush administration.

[usacomm]

Im not missing the point. Yeah, we all know the U.S. should have planned this better. However, dont take your hats off for the French, Russians, Chinese, or Germans. They were "wise" because they made money in Iraq and have a long history of it. Not a single one of those four nations today cares about the cultural differences of nations. They do the exact same as the U.S. does--Germany being a bit more innocent.

Stop being a jerk, please.

1. The US was implicated in the little oil for food scandal, just as much as anyone else
2. *ONLY* the US is implicated in the multi-billion dollar fraud that is going on in Iraq today - the amount of money your companies stole since 2003, is *many times more* than what French, German, Chinese and Russian companies grabbed, combined.

You know this, the entire world knows this. Stop being a loser.

The simple point is that France and Germany were, like all normal governments, moderately well informed, moderately rational and moderately smart, and could thus warn you over the dangers of illegally invading Iraq. You just happen to have had the bad luck of electing an idiot, who created an idiotic government, with idiotic ideas, well below the average intelligence of the average citizen of an averagely developed country. Hence France's astonishment when it heard your governments silly and absurd ideas. Hence the Germans' need to scream - they could never have imagined that at this day and age, a government could be so dumb.

But I understand that it must be excruciatingly horrible for you to admit this fact. It puts your entire nation to shame.

From the moment on that you are capable of recognizing your mistake - as a nation - you can start to make a beginning of joining the normal, moderately intelligent nations of this world.

For the time being, it is best for you to lower your tone, because you have a lot to learn. Reality proves this every single day.


But about who stole what, we can only say one thing: American companies stole many more billions since they entered Iraq in 2003, than all other companies from all other major powers combined during the oil for food scandal. On that, you really have to stop being a jerk.

[Gedominew]

Stop being a jerk, please.

1. The US was implicated in the little oil for food scandal, just as much as anyone else
2. *ONLY* the US is implicated in the multi-billion dollar fraud that is going on in Iraq today - the amount of money your companies stole since 2003, is *many times more* than what French, German, Chinese and Russian companies grabbed, combined.

You know this, the entire world knows this. Stop being a loser.

The simple point is that France and Germany were, like all normal governments, moderately well informed, moderately rational and moderately smart, and could thus warn you over the dangers of illegally invading Iraq. You just happen to have had the bad luck of electing an idiot, who created an idiotic government, with idiotic ideas, well below the average intelligence of the average citizen of an averagely developed country. Hence France's astonishment when it heard your governments silly and absurd ideas. Hence the Germans' need to scream - they could never have imagined that at this day and age, a government could be so dumb.

But I understand that it must be excruciatingly horrible for you to admit this fact. It puts your entire nation to shame.

From the moment on that you are capable of recognizing your mistake - as a nation - you can start to make a beginning of joining the normal, moderately intelligent nations of this world.

For the time being, it is best for you to lower your tone, because you have a lot to learn. Reality proves this every single day.


But about who stole what, we can only say one thing: American companies stole many more billions since they entered Iraq in 2003, than all other companies from all other major powers combined during the oil for food scandal. On that, you really have to stop being a jerk.

See that is the problem with Europe. They are only moderately intelligent and are proud of it. Why should we lower ourselves to their standards?

[annouhMus]

Let's see.....30 times more people per day than during the worst periods of saddams entire office..........That country should be empty by now, shouldn't...Or do they birth adults over there ?

If you beleive that, you need a course in Math (averages)---and logic.

Read the words "PER DAY"

[annouhMus]

Did any of you really expect the killing to stop because Saddam is dead.
He is just in a different place, with no more no less control of the situation Same agitators, same sympathizers. NO REAL CHANGE

[Heliosprime]

Stop being a jerk, please.

1. The US was implicated in the little oil for food scandal, just as much as anyone else
2. *ONLY* the US is implicated in the multi-billion dollar fraud that is going on in Iraq today - the amount of money your companies stole since 2003, is *many times more* than what French, German, Chinese and Russian companies grabbed, combined.

the oil for food scandal. On that, you really have to stop being a jerk.

first, why don't you stop getting personal.....just hit the topic.....

next; the US has already indicted several biz men here for their roles in oil for food scandal ….and sorry, but, the numbers are far less egregious regards US biz men taking advantage of this than many other nations……when the UN and France and Russia and the rest get around to indicting folks involved, give me a shout.......

[Susanleech]

The French gov't is something I'd never take my hat off for: that said, the immorality of other govt's in the world is completely irrelevant to the issue of the incompetence and callous disregard for life demonstrated by the Bush administration.

no, its not irrelevant when popular culture praises the French for not going into Iraq. By the way, why arent Muslims in the U.S rioting like they have in Paris?