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Old 12-27-2006, 12:22 PM   #1
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Default A U.S. military 'at its breaking point' considers foreign recruits
The armed forces, already struggling to meet recruiting goals, are considering expanding the number of noncitizens in the ranks, including disputed proposals to open recruiting stations overseas and put more immigrants on a faster track to U.S. citizenship if they volunteer, according to Pentagon officials.

Foreign citizens' serving in the U.S. military is a highly charged issue, which could expose the Pentagon to criticism that it is essentially using mercenaries to defend the country. Other analysts voice concern that a large contingent of noncitizens under arms could jeopardize national security or reflect badly on Americans' willingness to serve in uniform. A U.S. military 'at its breaking point' considers foreign recruits - Americas - International Herald Tribune

Worst Idea Ever.
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Old 12-27-2006, 12:50 PM   #2
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I think it would be an idea worth looking into. If someone living here wants citizenship and they are willing to actually go fight for our country, then anti-immigration bigots and leftists would be hard-pressed to come up with excuses to deny them citizenship.
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Old 12-27-2006, 02:23 PM   #3
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According to the military they are not struggling to meet recruiting goals. Given that I wouldnt be surprised if the rest of the story is wrong either. The press is too concerned with making a point to report facts.

DefenseLink News Release: DoD Announces Recruiting and Retention Numbers for November 2006
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Old 12-28-2006, 01:00 AM   #4
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The US military has taken foreign volunteers since the Revolution, this is hardly breaking news.
I know a guy who was in one of Ayatollah Khomenei's Angel Martyr battalions, when he was 13, him and a 12 year old actually killed an Iraqi tank, it took two of them to lift the RPG launcher, who enlisted and served in the US Army later.
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Old 12-28-2006, 04:43 AM   #5
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Is this the beginning of the "American Foreign Legion"?

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Old 12-28-2006, 05:09 AM   #6
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heh we could have an illegal immigrant Division, Impress all illegals into service, get rid of 2 problems in 1 step.













(obviously this is a joke)
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Old 12-28-2006, 02:13 PM   #7
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According to the military they are not struggling to meet recruiting goals. Given that I wouldnt be surprised if the rest of the story is wrong either. The press is too concerned with making a point to report facts.

DefenseLink News Release: DoD Announces Recruiting and Retention Numbers for November 2006
I just wanted to highlight this again. The military is not struggling to meet recruiting goals. Everything else is just liberal rhetoric.

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Old 12-28-2006, 03:14 PM   #8
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The US military has taken foreign volunteers since the Revolution, this is hardly breaking news.
I know a guy who was in one of Ayatollah Khomenei's Angel Martyr battalions, when he was 13, him and a 12 year old actually killed an Iraqi tank, it took two of them to lift the RPG launcher, who enlisted and served in the US Army later.
Iran used children to clear minefields, not destroy tanks.
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Old 12-28-2006, 05:21 PM   #9
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Iran used children to clear minefields, not destroy tanks.
Hey don't destroy Goober's SPIN and half-truths as it effects his Liberal status with other wussies!

Now if a few cowards would join instead of hiding at Berkely, UCLA, Columbia, Colorado, Oregon, and Washington, problem solved!

I like how COWARD is avoided, by saying:

I'm a Pacifist
9/11 was internal or the Jews did it
I won't fight for something I don't believe in so therefore I am in the CNN-MSNBC Hall of Fame!
Actually I'm a wimp and I would rather cry, and bitch and blame Bush!!

Real Men & Women in Uniform do not wan't your asses at all, but I see no problem telling Mexicans THEY WILL JOIN if they come here ILLEGAL and yes they can form their OWN companies!

You joinin Failure? Make your Dad proud for ONCE!!
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Old 12-28-2006, 05:54 PM   #10
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I don't think my dad would be even little tiny bit proud if I joined the military.
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Old 04-01-2007, 05:50 PM   #11
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I don't think my dad would be even little tiny bit proud if I joined the military.
Thats very sad that he wouldn't be proud of you serving your country.
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Old 04-01-2007, 06:00 PM   #12
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America has finally resorted to outsourcing the military.
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Old 04-01-2007, 06:02 PM   #13
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America has finally resorted to outsourcing the military.
How did you come to that conclusion, or is that just sarcasm?
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Old 04-01-2007, 06:03 PM   #14
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During Vietnam, more than 30,000 Canadians (80 killed) served in the US military. During the early years of WWII thousands of Americans served in both the Canadian and British military. Thousands of Irish served in the British military and were shunned by theri government when they returned home.

The point I am making here is it is important "why" one serves, not where one is from.

Completion of military service earns instant citizenship for legal residents.
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Old 04-01-2007, 06:10 PM   #15
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Breaking News???

Last I knew there were over 100,000 non-citizens serving in the military.
Many are LEGAL immigrants.

Right now every branch except the Army has MORE applicants than they need soldiers for...in other words every branch except the Army is TURNING PEOPLE AWAY.

Nothing here folks but just another malicious angle to bash America
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Old 04-01-2007, 07:18 PM   #16
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Breaking News???

Last I knew there were over 100,000 non-citizens serving in the military.
Many are LEGAL immigrants.

Right now every branch except the Army has MORE applicants than they need soldiers for...in other words every branch except the Army is TURNING PEOPLE AWAY.

Nothing here folks but just another malicious angle to bash America
That really sums it up well. As Jviehe has pointed out, the military is meeting all of their recruitment goals. It's into the circular file for this one.....
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Old 04-01-2007, 08:27 PM   #17
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Breaking News???

Last I knew there were over 100,000 non-citizens serving in the military.
Many are LEGAL immigrants.

Right now every branch except the Army has MORE applicants than they need soldiers for...in other words every branch except the Army is TURNING PEOPLE AWAY.

Nothing here folks but just another malicious angle to bash America
Some Port Ricans went through basic training when I did back in 82... as you said, nothing new.
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Old 04-01-2007, 08:53 PM   #18
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I just wanted to highlight this again. The military is not struggling to meet recruiting goals. Everything else is just liberal rhetoric.

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There seem to be two schools of thought on this. one says we have enouigh, the other says we don't. I think I prefer to wait until we find out which story is accurate. However, I seem to recall that the services all LOWERED their requirements a couple of months ago to line up with the story that we have enough. and lowered them just enough so that All services were getting just barely enough. Anybody else remember that????
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Old 04-01-2007, 08:57 PM   #19
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During Vietnam, more than 30,000 Canadians (80 killed) served in the US military. During the early years of WWII thousands of Americans served in both the Canadian and British military. Thousands of Irish served in the British military and were shunned by theri government when they returned home.

The point I am making here is it is important "why" one serves, not where one is from.

Completion of military service earns instant citizenship for legal residents.
As I understand it, that's not quite true, but they are put on the fast track
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Old 04-01-2007, 08:57 PM   #20
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There seem to be two schools of thought on this. one says we have enough, the other says we don't. I think I prefer to wait until we find out which story is accurate. However, I seem to recall that the services all LOWERED their requirements a couple of months ago to line up with the story that we have enough. and lowered them just enough so that All services were getting just barely enough. Anybody else remember that????
Nah - I think there are two schools of thought here though - one fishes the internet for unsubstantiated stories that bash anything America and post it here, the other gets sick of seeing so damn many of them in the public forums.
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