[StethyEntinic]

never happen. People are too busy these days.

[fabrizioitwloch]

never happen. People are too busy these days.

That's always the excuse and why the government get's away with crap....They fear us not because we don't push them and they fear us not on votes....What's left ?

[StethyEntinic]

That's always the excuse and why the government get's away with crap....They fear us not because we don't push them and they fear us not on votes....What's left ?

Yep. 'Zactly what I meant. They like to keep us busy so we don't ask questions. Why do you think there are always hundreds of articles and reports with different information on the same subject? Yep.

[SmuffNuSMaxqh]

Don't forget the Republicans that tried to stop it just about a year ago but it was shot down

Doesn't matter.

If Democrats cut it, they'll rightfully get the credit.

And Republicans will still try to take the credit...

[fabrizioitwloch]

Doesn't matter.

If Democrats cut it, they'll rightfully get the credit.

And Republicans will still try to take the credit...

If they're smart, they'll wait until next year and obtain credit.

[SmuffNuSMaxqh]

If they're smart, they'll wait until next year and obtain credit.

Well, I don't see a helluva' lot happening in the next three weeks, do you?

[icerrelmCam]

Pork needs to be completely eliminated across the board. It is unconstitutional. That was NEVER the intent of the Federal Government and it isn't allowed, but the American people are lazy today or simply don't care or want it to continue.

I don't care which party does it but it needs to be done and I don't have faith in either party to do it.

[cokLoolioli]

Pork needs to be completely eliminated across the board. It is unconstitutional. That was NEVER the intent of the Federal Government and it isn't allowed, but the American people are lazy today or simply don't care or want it to continue.

I don't care which party does it but it needs to be done and I don't have faith in either party to do it.

All you have to do is stop electing the same people. How many of you voted FOR an incumbent this year? I didnt. Stop blaming everyone else but yourself.

[ahagotyou]

All you have to do is stop electing the same people. How many of you voted FOR an incumbent this year? I didnt. Stop blaming everyone else but yourself.

Here in Ohio we booted DeWine to the curb.

Will Brown be any better, I hope so but I doubt it,

However I think it sent a message nonetheless, that being..."Quit fucking us or you'll lose your job".... "but only after your term is up in 6 years".

[AdvertisingPo]

Here in Ohio we booted DeWine to the curb.

Will Brown be any better, I hope so but I doubt it,

However I think it sent a message nonetheless, that being..."Quit fucking us or you'll lose your job".... "but only after your term is up in 6 years".

I think he will... but only because I'm a bleeder.

Did you vote for him? If you don't my asking....

[Xavier_Spinner_Wheels]

Tell me Comrade, when Tom Coburn and Jeff Flake introduced their amendments this past year to eliminate billions of dollars in pork spending, why did 99% of the Democrats vote against those amendments if they were so concerned about eliminating pork? Please, don't let the truth get in the way of what you wish reality to be.

Are you saying that Republicans are too pathetic to pass reform legislation, even when they control the majority in both houses of Congress and the presidency?

[Rnlvifov]

The Repubs dont control the Congress.

[Prererularl]

One of the first things the Democrats will have to do is pass the budget that this Congress just didn't have time for with their hectic 103 day work year, that's the equivalent to over twenty weeks of work..........

So Democrats in the last Congress worked longer than 103 days too? Ted Kennedy? Hillary Clinton? If not, you're blowing hot air .. again.

[icerrelmCam]

Are you saying that Republicans are too pathetic to pass reform legislation, even when they control the majority in both houses of Congress and the presidency?

Why are you asking me what I said when you just quoted me???

[Unjucky]

Reagan vetoed a Highway bill that had 451 earmarks, claiming it was just too pork laden.
Bush signed a highway bill this year with over 6000 earmarks.

[fabrizioitwloch]

Reagan vetoed a Highway bill that had 451 earmarks, claiming it was just too pork laden.
Bush signed a highway bill this year with over 6000 earmarks.

"6000" !!!!!!!!
Which one was that, I'd be interested in seing what was all added.......Let me guess, the study of worm reproduction.

[ahagotyou]

I think he will... but only because I'm a bleeder.

Did you vote for him? If you don't my asking....

Yes I did vote for him just as I said I woiuld in other threads here. Not that I particularly like him. He's waaay to the left of me.

The thing is, DeWine had to go. He was voting against our best interests. (eg. Alito, Patriot act) Sometimes people just deserve to be fired no matter what and you have to take your chances with a new guy.

And though I don't know him well personally, I do know many of the people he rubs elbows with such as Tom Noe and and that whole crowd and they were all doing shit I seriously don't approve of but I'm not going to make any specific accusations because I can't prove it.
Also, I kind of like the idea of legislative gridlock. We don't need more laws, we need less. Hopefully Bush's rubber stamp will be nothing but Barney's new chew toy for the next couple years...

[Unjucky]

The Democrats are playing for the long run here, no rip and run, so they won't be piling on the pork, until the GOP is in the coffin, with the stake through it's heart.
That means doing the right thing for the next two years, because in 2008 the Party of the People will hold the high ground, they already have a larger majority in the House than the GOP ever had during the Republican Hegemony. In 2008 there are 22 GOP Senate seats in play, with 10 expected to be open, on the other side the Democrats will only be defending 11 Senate seats, and only 4 of those will be open, so if they can keep the momentum going they can get a death grip on the Senate, and the White House.
Then they can play around, and dish out some bacon, but until then, they have to hold the line, if they do that, the GOP majority hasn't been born yet.

[icerrelmCam]

The Democrats are playing for the long run here, no rip and run, so they won't be piling on the pork, until the GOP is in the coffin, with the stake through it's heart.
That means doing the right thing for the next two years, because in 2008 the Party of the People will hold the high ground, they already have a larger majority in the House than the GOP ever had during the Republican Hegemony. In 2008 there are 22 GOP Senate seats in play, with 10 expected to be open, on the other side the Democrats will only be defending 11 Senate seats, and only 4 of those will be open, so if they can keep the momentum going they can get a death grip on the Senate, and the White House.
Then they can play around, and dish out some bacon, but until then, they have to hold the line, if they do that, the GOP majority hasn't been born yet.

So what you just said is that they should do the right thing and be fiscally responsible for the next two years, which you think will ensure a larger majority for them in 2008, and once they obtain that it will then be okay for them to tell the voters to fuck off and can go back to putting us in even more debt than the Republicans did. Nice.

As I have said before, you are the problem in this country. You aren't the solution.

[fashikn]

The Democrats are playing for the long run here, no rip and run, so they won't be piling on the pork, until the GOP is in the coffin, with the stake through it's heart.
That means doing the right thing for the next two years, because in 2008 the Party of the People will hold the high ground, they already have a larger majority in the House than the GOP ever had during the Republican Hegemony. In 2008 there are 22 GOP Senate seats in play, with 10 expected to be open, on the other side the Democrats will only be defending 11 Senate seats, and only 4 of those will be open, so if they can keep the momentum going they can get a death grip on the Senate, and the White House.
Then they can play around, and dish out some bacon, but until then, they have to hold the line, if they do that, the GOP majority hasn't been born yet.

So what you just said is that they should do the right thing and be fiscally responsible for the next two years, which you think will ensure a larger majority for them in 2008, and once they obtain that it will then be okay for them to tell the voters to fuck off and can go back to putting us in even more debt than the Republicans did. Nice.

As I have said before, you are the problem in this country. You aren't the solution.

I don't see where Goober stated that he agreed with the tactics he believes the Dems will employ: he merely gave his opinion as to how he sees the next 2 years unfolding.
Like it or not, it will result in a winning strategy.